Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria

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SIGNYM

Sunday, August 28, 2016 9:44 PM

I thought this was an interesting analysis of Turkey's entrance into Syria

Joe Biden Humiliated In Turkish "Appeasement" As Erdogan Bombs US Allies In Syria

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The last time U.S. Vice President Joe Biden flew to Turkey, in January, he had a stern message for President Erdogan: his model of Islamic democracy was setting a bad example by intimidating media and threatening academics.

However, his tone was markedly different when he arrived in Ankara on Wednesday, just weeks after a failed coup in Turkey that has strained relations between the two countries, and on the same day that Turkey launched a full-blown incursion into northern Syria "to halt ISIS." With Turkey making very clear, and very open overtures toward Russia, Biden was in full blown diplomatic damage-limitation mode.

The dramatic shift in diplomatic posture by Biden comes as the U.S.-Turkish alliance has been dealt several blows in recent weeks, to the point where the US vice president's arrival in Ankara shows just how concerned the US, which is counting on continued support from Turkey - NATO's second-biggest military - has become. American worries have been compounded by Erdogan restoring ties with Russia - the Turkish president's first diplomatic meeting after the failed coup was with Putin in St. Petersburg, as a result of which Turkey has been discussing military cooperation with the Kremlin.

Meeting with Erdogan and Turkey's prime minister in Ankara on Wednesday, Biden delivered a message of alliance and conciliation.

"Let me say it for one last time: The American people stand with you ... Barack Obama was one of the first people you called. But I do apologize. I wish I could have been here earlier," Biden said.

But he wasn't.

And while Biden's pathetic attempt at appeasement may have come and gone, reinforcing just how much the American people stand with a person whose pre-arranged purge of political opponents has resulted in over 100,000 Turkish citizens fired or arrested, Turkey's diplomatic humiliation of the US continued, when far from attacking ISIS in Syria, the stated objective behind the invasion ...

Turkish forces and rebels supported by Erdogan continued their deadly attacks on Kurdish-backed forces in north Syria on Saturday. The same Kurdish-backed forces which are also backed by the US.

And it's not as if Turkey is even hiding it: Turkey's government, which is fighting a Kurdish insurgency at home, has said the Syrian campaign it opened this week is as much about targeting Islamic State as it is about preventing Kurdish forces filling the vacuum left when Islamists withdraw. Turkey wants to stop Kurdish forces gaining control of a continuous stretch of Syrian territory on its frontier, which Ankara fears could be used to support the Kurdish militant group PKK as it wages its three-decade insurgency on Turkish soil.

According to Reuters, Turkish security sources said two F-16 jets bombed a site controlled by the Kurdish YPG militia, which is part of the broader U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) coalition.

Meanwhile, the US-backed Kurds are fighting back, and according to military sources, one Turkish soldier was killed and three others wounded when a tank was hit by a rocket that they said was fired from territory held by the Kurdish YPG. The sources said the army shelled the area in response.

At that point the chaos that is the Syrian conflict, with so many competing elements, many of whom supported by the US, was on full display.

So, who IS the USA supporting in Turkey???

There are so many factions, I've kind of lost track.

Let's see...

There were the arms the CIA was shipping from Libya to Syria via NATO-member Turkey.
There was the ISIL oil which crossed into NATO-memmber Turkey, which provided a nice revenue stream for Balil Erdogan ...
And the ISIL-

KPO

Monday, August 29, 2016 7:51 PM

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Daraya, which had been besieged by al Nusra (al Qaida in Syria) has been liberated.

LIE. Daraya had been besieged and starved by Syrian government forces for 4 years.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/26/daraya-surrenders-to-assad-
regime-after-four-years-of-siege-and/

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The first stream of civilians and rebel fighters began to leave the city on Friday afternoon, many of them in tears as their years of holding out ended in surrender.

"Daraya will be delivered to the Assad regime. This is how he is rewarded for four years of bombing, dropping chemicals and killing Daraya's children. They killed us and destroyed our city, all because we demanded democracy and freedom,” said Ahmad a 23-year-old man who has not seen his girlfriend or family members since the regime siege began in 2012.

"I do not know what will happen to us, whether I will be killed or allowed to live. For so long Daraya is all I have known, and I am feeling lost and distraught and having to leave."

What Signy calls "liberation" I think most of us would call "starved into submission".

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KPO

Monday, August 29, 2016 7:58 PM

Double-tap airstrike on funeral in rebel-held Aleppo hits mourners, then rescue workers, 25+ killed - https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/airstrike-in-east-aleppo-hits-chi
ldrens-funeral/2016/08/27/2917db58-6c69-11e6-91cb-ecb5418830e9_story.html?postshare=5101472414331570&tid=ss_tw

The funeral was for 13 people killed in an airstrike days earlier:

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On Friday, a video of two young boys, inconsolable as they mourned the death of family members in a Thursday airstrike on Bab al-Nairab, went viral. The footage captured a private moment of painful grief: Sobbing, the boys clutch each other tightly, surrounded by the hubbub of a hospital ward.

Underscoring the tragedy that has befallen so many families left in Aleppo, it appeared that the boys came from the same families that took to the streets Saturday to mourn their dead, only to be hit by airstrikes.

The fate of the children remains unknown. The flood of photographs from the aftermath of the attack were too graphic to publish. They showed the bodies of men, women and children, some of them blasted in half.

“The regime is telling us that we can’t be sad, we can’t cry for our children who die. They want us to think that if we hold funerals for them, we will risk death, too,” said Abdulkafi al-Hamdo, an English teacher from Aleppo who shared images of the dead with reporters.

The video came a week after footage of another child, 5-year-old Omran Daqneesh, was viewed millions of times around the world, transforming his dusty image into a symbol of Aleppo’s suffering. When the child’s brother died days later, the news received little attention.

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SIGNYM

Monday, August 29, 2016 8:54 PM

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On 24 June, the Syrian Army, backed by Hezbollah, captured over 25 farms in the Darayya, threatening to cut the rebel pocket in half, and depriving the city of its most important food source.

The next day [That would be about two months ago, as of today- SIGNY] the government formally offered the rebel groups in Darayya a surrender deal, according to which the rebels would be granted safe passage to other rebel-held areas of Damascus if they gave up their weapons. The FSA and Ajnad al-Sham commanders were given a one-week deadline to respond.

After rebel commanders refused to surrender, government forces resumed their attacks on Darayya on 30 June

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Darayya_and_Muadamiyat

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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.

KPO

Saturday, September 3, 2016 3:12 PM

Syrians forced to use mud to treat children burned by Assad's napalm - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/30/syrians-forced-to-use-mud-t
o-cool-napalm-burns-as-assad-steps-up/

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The little girl shivered and cried as the adults applied more cold mud to her head.

Despite the child’s obvious pain, the grim-faced men continued to lather on layer after layer of wet dirt.

The mud, activists in the Syrian city of Homs said, is the only available treatment for people suffering the burns inflicted by napalm bombs dropped by Bashar al-Assad’s air force.

“They use mud because there is no medication and with napalm you can’t use water,” said Hayan, an activist who asked to be identified only by his first name...

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KPO

Saturday, September 3, 2016 3:17 PM

A good summation of the war crimes in Syria:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/does-anyone-in-syria-fear-inte
rnational-law

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The horror of Syria’s war is in the millions of pictures that are too gruesome to circulate—charred limbs stacked outside hospital wards, bloated bodies rotting in sniper alleys, a toddler plucked from the rubble without a head. It is in a group of relatives trying to carry the sixty-pound corpse of a man who died of hunger—the boiled grass he’d been living on could no longer sustain him—but struggling under his weight, because they, too, are starving to death. It is in a generation of orphans, of children who never learned to read but can tell you the difference between the sounds of shelling and those of air strikes. It is in the intentional bombing of hospitals and clinics, the targeted assassinations of medical workers, the forced displacements, the chemical-weapons attacks. It is in a death toll so high, and so impossible to verify, that the U.N. stopped counting two years ago.

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KPO

Saturday, September 3, 2016 3:17 PM

A good article on the staggering scale of Syria's war crimes -
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/does-anyone-in-syria-fear-inte
rnational-law

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The horror of Syria’s war is in the millions of pictures that are too gruesome to circulate—charred limbs stacked outside hospital wards, bloated bodies rotting in sniper alleys, a toddler plucked from the rubble without a head. It is in a group of relatives trying to carry the sixty-pound corpse of a man who died of hunger—the boiled grass he’d been living on could no longer sustain him—but struggling under his weight, because they, too, are starving to death. It is in a generation of orphans, of children who never learned to read but can tell you the difference between the sounds of shelling and those of air strikes. It is in the intentional bombing of hospitals and clinics, the targeted assassinations of medical workers, the forced displacements, the chemical-weapons attacks. It is in a death toll so high, and so impossible to verify, that the U.N. stopped counting two years ago.

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SECOND

Saturday, September 3, 2016 9:28 PM

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Originally posted by G:

How do we explain this?

All of this has happened before and will happen again: Indonesia's military coup in 1965 ushered in the rule of General Suharto, after a purge during which about half a million people were slaughtered as alleged "communists" by paramilitaries and mobsters.

The Act of Killing, a documentary, found some of the unrepentant killers in present-day Indonesia, now gray-haired grandpas, and persuaded them to act out their most atrocious crimes of torture and mayhem in the styles of their favorite movie genres: gangster flicks, westerns, war movies, musicals. They are only too happy and excited to do it.

Merely re-enacting these violent events is visibly too much for some of the killers playing the victims, who, before our eyes, begin to see what this violence actually meant. Despite or even because of the extravagant absurdity of this pantomime, the reality of what went on begins to dawn on the perpetrators. Others are scornful of any regret: "You feel haunted because your mind is weak. It's just a nerve imbalance."
www.imdb.com/title/tt2375605/criticreviews?ref_=tt_ov_rt

https://thepiratebay.org/search/the%20act%20of%20killing/0/99/0

KPO

Sunday, September 4, 2016 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by kpo:
A good article on the staggering scale of Syria's war crimes -
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/does-anyone-in-syria-fear-inte
rnational-law

How do we explain this? I understand (meaning I get why, not condone) a number of ways people justify or rationalize such murder:

1. defending oneself.
2. blood lust - when enough murder causes one to no longer feel its effects on the human psyche enabling continued acts. There has to be an initial trigger.
3. revenge - maybe the most powerful motivator.
4. seeing the victims as inhuman.
5. encouragement by others, more dominant people (following orders).

I get the feeling Assad, and even much of Syria, is on murder autopilot. They are consumed by the power and thrill of killing. No one is really controlling anything else. This is all they know so this is all they do, every day. If they stopped now it would only make them look more guilty for their previous acts.

Interesting question. For me Assad's acts of evil come from a variety of places including:

1) Weakness and fear - Assad is part of a tiny minority, the Alawites, who are just 12% of the population but have ruled a Sunni-majority country for decades. This is a precarious position, especially when you consider...

2) His family's history of brutal suppression of the Sunnis - Historically the Assads have been very brutal in suppression of any kind of uprising (see Assad's father). Bashar saw what his father had done to successfully quell an uprising, and naturally tried the same. And when it didn't work... well, there's no way back once you've started down the path of war crimes against your own people. You either double down on the violence to try to quash the uprising, flee the country in disgrace (a la Yanukovich in Ukraine), or you get deposed and face the people's idea of justice.

Russia's motives in this holocaust of Sunnis are less clear, and in some ways much more important (since Russia is, after all, the regime's chief enabler). Since the war in Ukraine I have thought of Putin as someone who is running his country but in his own mind simply playing a very tactical game. All he cares about is solidifying his hold on power, benefiting his circle of oligarch cronies, and the glory of Russian imperialism. When he starts a war (and then prosecutes it for months/years on end) this is all he thinks about - not the thousands of people who are getting killed or having their lives ruined. It's all a game to Putin, and he wants to win.

"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

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KPO

Sunday, September 11, 2016 9:38 PM

Another chlorine gas attack last week on rebel-held Aleppo - http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-aleppo-idUSKCN1
1C1S5?il=0

Assad using chemical weapons with impunity now.

"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

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