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TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!

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Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:54 AM

Hmmmm ... round in circles, or determinedly over a cliff ... so. hard. to. choose.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Hmmmm ... round in circles, or determinedly over a cliff ... so. hard. to. choose.

There is a political cartoon about Trump covering exactly your point if I understood you correctly:
www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/11/1546750/-Cartoon-The-truth-revealed

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Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:58 AM

Why would anyone consider Hillary qualified? Just look at her rousing record of success ... Libya, Ukraine and Syria. Hell, just look at her handling of her emails.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Wednesday, July 13, 2016 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Why would anyone consider Hillary qualified? Just look at her rousing record of success ... Libya, Ukraine and Syria. Hell, just look at her handling of her emails.

Save your bile for the Hillary thread; this one is for demolishing Trump.

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Wednesday, July 13, 2016 11:56 AM

What both stories tell us is that the Obama administration has done much more than most people realize to fight extreme economic inequality. That fight will continue if Hillary Clinton wins the election; it will go into sharp reverse if Trump wins.


I will repeat that: Since the bottom 50% won’t vote, the top 1% will have their way in the USA. Trump, Bernie and Hillary will not be running a get out the vote for the bottom 50%.



dudette

your posts, not even halfway down the first page - You DO see you mentioning Hillary, do you not?




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Wednesday, July 13, 2016 12:36 PM

It is a run-away locomotive that has gathered steam all on it's lonesome. The shear weight and breadth is beyond what anyone even bothers to observe, let alone measure. It is Jupiter and the asteroid in the Apocalypse movie hurtling towards
Earth unabated, that no one will take the time or effort to land upon and dare to
plant the bomb to break it up and force to pass the planet and wander harmlessly
into the black.

It is the New truth. Ugly as it is. Meanwhile, Cheney is off in a corner snickering
to himself.


SGG


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Twelve minutes of Hillary lying

You fell into my trap, again.

This claim of unabated mendacity is particularly interesting, because while it is not the oldest defamation aimed at Hillary, it is the one that most effortlessly glides across partisan lines. Indeed, for a surprisingly large percentage of the electorate, the claim that Hillary is innately dishonest is simply accepted as a given. It is an accusation and conviction so ingrained in the conversation about her that any attempt to even question it is often met with shock. And yet here’s the thing: it’s not actually true. Politifact, the Pulitzer prize-winning fact-checking project, determined for example that Hillary was actually the most truthful candidate (of either Party) in the 2016 election season. And in general Politifact has determined that Hillary is more honest than most (but not all) politicians they have tracked over the years.
https://thepolicy.us/thinking-about-hillary-a-plea-for-reason-308fce6d
187c#.c6jqyzch6


Also instructive is Jill Abramson’s recent piece in the Guardian. Abramson, a former reporter for the Wall Street Journal as well as former Executive Editor of the New York Times, had this to say about Hillary’s honesty: “As an editor I’ve launched investigations into her business dealings, her fundraising, her foundation and her marriage. As a reporter my stories stretch back to Whitewater. I’m not a favorite in Hillaryland. That makes what I want to say next surprising. Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest and trustworthy.”
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-t
ransparency-jill-abramson


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Wednesday, July 13, 2016 12:39 PM

Name someone in the last 20 years that has had a total grasp on world events.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Why would anyone consider Hillary qualified? Just look at her rousing record of success ... Libya, Ukraine and Syria. Hell, just look at her handling of her emails.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Wednesday, July 13, 2016 12:56 PM

SGG

I made MY bottom line perfectly clear. I don't think Donny will start a nuclear confrontation with Russia.

I'm pretty certain Hillary - given her history of GOD AWFUL failures, her neo-CON background, her campaign rhetoric, and the party's platform - will stupidly push and push and push until - in-line with her - let me say it again - HISTORICALLY PROVEN STUPIDITY (the rousing 'successes' of Libya, Ukraine, Syria)- it comes to pass.

What's YOUR bottom line? GO TEAM !!!


So junior high.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Wednesday, July 13, 2016 7:31 PM

Trump seeks to block release of Trump University testimony
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/848d65874f9d45fb9eddbd89ea199da8/trump-
seeks-block-release-trump-university-testimony


News organizations want full transcripts and video of Trump testifying at an all-day deposition Dec. 10 at his New York office and for three hours on Jan. 21 in a Las Vegas law office. Nearly all transcripts have been released and Trump's attorneys said last month that they won't oppose unsealing the remaining pieces.

Lawyers representing Trump University's former customers say the videos present "a more complete picture" than the transcripts.

Trump's tone, facial expressions, gestures and body language show "complete and utter unfamiliarity" with Trump University's instructors and instruction, despite the business mogul's previous statements that he was extensively involved, the attorneys wrote. They said Trump also made "many spontaneous and ad hominem remarks that are not reflected in the paper transcript of his depositions."

In portions of Trump's testimony that have been released, he acknowledged that he plays on people's fantasies.

He is also pressed on blog posts in 2008 that Bill Clinton was a great president and Hillary Clinton would make a great president or vice president. Of his praise for Hillary Clinton, he said, "I didn't give it a lot of thought, because I was in business."

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Thursday, July 14, 2016 2:16 AM

Trump's whole campaign is to convince white voters that they're surrounded by murderers, terrorists, and predators who want to take their jobs away and impoverish them.

http://gawker.com/donald-trump-claims-hes-seen-people-calling-for-mome
nts-1783561092

During two separate discussions of Black Lives Matters protests on Tuesday, Donald Trump falsely claimed that people have called for moments of silence for Micah Johnson, the gunman who killed five police officers in Dallas and injured nine others, without specifying who or where.

On an O’Reilly Factor segment Trump lied....“I saw what they’ve said about police at various marches and rallies.” “I’ve seen moments of silence called for this horrible human being who shot the policemen.”

Trump repeated the false claim Tuesday night, saying at a rally in Indiana, “The other night you had 11 cities potentially in a blow-up stage. Marches all over the United States—and tough marches. Anger. Hatred. Hatred! Started by a maniac! And some people ask for a moment of silence for him. For the killer!”

Trump’s false accusations explained:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-propagator-of-race-hatred-and-vi
olence

This isn't getting a lot of attention. But it should....There is no evidence this ever happened. Searches of the web and social media showed no evidence. Even Trump's campaign co-chair said today that he can't come up with any evidence that it happened.

....A would-be strong man, an authoritarian personality, isn't just against disorder and violence. They need disorder and violence. That is their raison d'etre, it is the problem that they are purportedly there to solve. The point bears repeating: authoritarian figures require violence and disorder. Look at Trump’s language. "11 cities potentially in a blow up stage" ... "Anger. Hatred. Hatred! Started by a maniac!" ... "And some people ask for a moment of silence for him. For the killer."

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