Act of terror

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THGRRI

Sunday, June 19, 2016 5:13 AM

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Originally posted by second:
In very few words Jayne has today blamed Orlando on Obama and attacked Obama for immigration. Jayne defines every Muslim criminal as a “terrorist” in this retweet:

Adam Baldwin Retweeted
WH PRESS SECRETARY @weknowwhatsbest 16h16 hours ago

Pres Obama plans to process one million Syrians into America. Relax, if only 1/10th of 1% are terrorists, that's only 1,000 Orlandos.

1,055 retweets 772 likes
6:47 PM - 17 Jun 2016
https://twitter.com/weknowwhatsbest/status/743983416891179009

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

His politics are shit. He is kind of a jerk.

THGRRI

Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:31 AM

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Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Feds add Orlando gay club shooter’s father, wife to no-fly lists
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-add-orlando-gay-club-shooter%E2%
80%99s-father-wife-to-no-fly-lists/ar-AAhdXeL

Father held a press conference and said it was the club's fault. They should have had better security, "they could have stopped my son." No lie.

Yeah more and more you see why this guy had mental health problems. Like father like son. It's the other guys fault.

1KIKI

Sunday, June 19, 2016 9:26 AM

So,
For whozit or anyone else espousing the NRA line: I asked this question earlier and didn't get an answer. Here it is again in a more expanded form:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
"According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in 2013, firearms were used in 84,258 nonfatal injuries and 11,208 deaths by homicide, 21,175 by suicide with a firearm, 505 deaths due to accidental discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms-use with "undetermined intent" for a total of 33,169 deaths related to firearms (excluding firearm deaths due to legal intervention)."

As I understand it, the NRA's position is that it's people with guns who are the problem, not the guns themselves. Given that the NRA sees the problem as the wrong people getting guns, what is its solution for the roughly 33,000 of the wrong people getting guns?

The reason why I bring this up is because to me it doesn't matter if he was a nutcase, or an ISIS terrorist following orders, or somewhere in between. In ANY case, he shouldn't have gotten guns.

So ... what does the NRA propose to keep this from happening again, by keeping guns out of the hands of the wrong people?

Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

SECOND

Sunday, June 19, 2016 4:50 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

So,
For whozit or anyone else espousing the NRA line: I asked this question earlier and didn't get an answer. Here it is again in a more expanded form:

As I understand it, the NRA's position is that it's people with guns who are the problem, not the guns themselves. Given that the NRA sees the problem as the wrong people getting guns, what is its solution for the roughly 33,000 of the wrong people getting guns?

More guns is always the answer. Actually that is the NRA's only answer according to an informal poll I took in Baytown Texas with four samples. The NRA position would be: “If everyone carried a gun, everyone would be safer.” Just writing that made me feel Jaynesque stupid, which is why it is only the tacit position, not the Official NRA Position.

ELVISCHRIST

Monday, June 20, 2016 5:40 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
www.gocomics.com/chanlowe/2016/06/13

Second amendment cases at the Supreme Court ought to take into account the invention of the cartridge, the ammo magazine, the semi-automatic rifle and handgun. The Supreme Court has already ruled that the second amendment does not cover hand grenades or rocket propelled grenades, despite the fact that Justice Antonin Scalia suggests ‘hand-held rocket launchers’ are protected under second amendment.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/29/602491/scalia-rocket-launc
her/

Opinions differ, as is usual.
www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Second-Amendment-restricted-to-guns

I agree. The AR15 is designed to kill at times of war. AR stands for assault rifle. I take the designers at their word.

Nope. AR in the AR-15 title stands for Armalite, the company that originally made it.

THGRRI

Monday, June 20, 2016 7:29 AM

Ok

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:12 AM

FarLeftist deny Orlando attack was connected to Radical Muslim ideology or Islamism

absolutely deny that Islam played any role in the terrorist attack

SECOND

Tuesday, June 21, 2016 4:55 AM

On Friday, Donald Trump offered up this comment on the Orlando shooting: "It's too bad that some of the young people that were killed over the weekend didn't have guns attached to their hip....Had people been able to fire back it would have been a much different outcome."

Presumably he figured that this was the "strong" pro-gun position, only to discover that even the NRA thinks it's not a great idea to mix firearms and alcohol. So today he walked back this comment, saying that he was "obviously" referring only to "additional guards or employees."

This is, obviously, a lie, as even the lightest perusal of his original remarks proves.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/06/donald-trump-shatters-world-rec
ord-walking-back-his-own-comments

SECOND

Tuesday, June 21, 2016 5:01 PM

www.gocomics.com/nickanderson/2016/06/21

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:38 AM

The guy has NO filter. EVERY week he says something beyond stupid and then says "I meant to say something more intelligent and less offensive than what you thought I said"...

I've known falling-on-you-ass-drunk people that have thought through their actions more than him. I don't get it.

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