PARIS UNDER ATTACK
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France demands EU invoke mutual-defense clause
The clause — article 42.7 of the Treaty on European Union — says that "if a member state is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other member states shall have toward it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/11/17/paris-attacks-isla
mic-state-hollande/75913054/
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As I predicted. (And, as did you.)
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
As I predicted. (And, as did you.)
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
I said I hoped we would activate NATO even though it may not be the right thing to do. You know, major boots on the ground.
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Actually, this is what I said
"I'll tell you what G. Since ISIS is considered a state entity and since it attacked a NATO country the way it has, I say this is a perfect opportunity for NATO to flood into Syria and crush all unsavory characters and even remove Assad. Russia would be powerless to stop it and the message they would receive would be, step aside little one. We have had enough of you."
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So far, France has responded by bombing al-Raqqa, ISIL's de facto capital in Syria. But as nice as bombing al-Raqqa is, its about two or three months of ground-fighting away from current anti-ISIL ground forces.
France has also sent its aircraft carrier towards "the Middle East". Before the attack, its original deployment was to the Persian Gulf (closer to Iraq) possibly to replace the USA aircraft carrier that just left. But Russia has just ordered its MoD to coordinate with French naval forces, which implies that the aircraft carrier will be in the same area where Russian naval forces are active, which means (I would think) near Syria. So. Persian Gulf, or Syrian Coast? France is pretty closed-mouth about that. And, what good is an aircraft carrier? For bombing, of course. And in order for the bombing to do any good at all, you need good intelligence and coordination with ground forces. Maybe western forces will take advantage of that Syrian-Iraqi-Iranian-Russian intelligence center in Baghdad.
A full-on confrontation with Russia is probably not in the cards, much as you seem to be itching for one.
Edited to Add (ETA):
According to the US Navy the Charles de Gaulle will join the Truman in the Persian Gulf
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The Navy announced on Monday the deployment of the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier and its strike group to the Middle East.
The Truman will join the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle in the Persian Gulf area and will assist in the war against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/260282-navy-deploys-aircraft-carrier
-to-the-middle-east
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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There would not be a confrontation because Russia would stand down.
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Uh huh.
Man you've got a hard-on for Russia, don't you? You post this fatuous TED talk about giving Muslim (terrorists) a break through understanding, http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60162 and yet you can't manage to extend the same to Russia. So, are you soft on terrorism? Or are your priorities just screwed up?
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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Like I said, Russia will stand down
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The nationalists, the far right will win, the UKIPs, the LePens are easily going to gain huge ground. The left in Europe has very litte to respond to the crisis....maybe bring in more fake-ugees or sing John Lenon songs....loony white nationalistic rightwingers like Paul Ray Ramsey are starting to sound less insane while the Euros political left sound more and more loony
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