PARIS UNDER ATTACK
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 30, 2026 15:17
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..JAYNEZTOWN, Sept. 8th 2004
Hot headed reactions like these are kind of understandable. I saw much worse ideas than this Flynn guy on the Yahoo-news and MSN-news board
It's true that these Islamic terrorists are scum, and if they take human life, bomb hospitals or kill children they deserve to die.
However not all Arabs, Muslims or Islamics are like these radical nuts. Many are just ordinary folk and some don't give a damn about religion. Terrorism will always exist in some form, it is hard to defeat but it can be largely prevented.
Terrorism flourishes where there is ethnic hatred, radical political leaders, religious nuts and oppression..these are the places where it grows and gets strong.
The probelm is that some try to strike back using overkill methods only to see terror groups spring back in other places and sometimes stronger.
Take the example of Clinton, he was a bullcrap president and spent much time with Monica and cigars. However he done ok for the USA and was smart when it came to global politics and events. In Kosovo, we had different ethnic groups and races killing ecah other. Clinton was forced to act and planes bombed. Afterwards there were big problems, yet Clinton set up the smart framework so that the area would be secure, safe and free from dictators or terrorists again. Clinton also done good in parts of Asia, Northern Ireland and the Middle East.
Now take our idiot Bush, all fight but no brains instead of finding the evil Binladen and his Taliban friends Bush is off causing trouble in the Iraq. Meanwhile N-Korea is building long range Nukes that reach the west coast and Iran has a real WMD program. Terrorism flourishes where there is ethnic hatred, radical political leaders, religious nuts and oppression..these are the places where it grows and gets strong and this might be why it's now growing in Iraq, a place where Al-Quaida could not have existed some months ago as Saddam used to hatethem and other religious radicals. It seems Bush has plenty of bravado and fight in him, but no brains and tactics and no idea about peace, and security or winning the war.
There is no doubt these islamic extremists are evil and they should be killed for what they have done. However not respond by bombing a city
let's catch them , put them on trial and shoot them.
The worst thing Russia could do is play this like Bush has done, by pinning it on some other random city ( Baghdad-Iraq ) . When I speak of Clinton or Bush I don't just mean the presidents but the advisors and administartion which surrounds. Is Bush smart enough to win peace and security or are the terrorists coming back and more people going to die ?
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Meanwhile whatever happened to MERKEL??
Last year, she was the EU queen bee. This year, except for offering the usual condolences and support to Hollande that one would expect from a fellow-EU member state, Merkel has not had much to say. Certainly not what anyone is interested in. At the G20 summit, she was alone and friendless.
That's what happens when you craft your foreign/ economic/ security policies by "triangulating" against other people's opinions, rather than realities on the ground. Because once reality shifts, you're left high and dry...
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Well, you would be right. Saudi Arabia has been benefiting from USA policy and a relaxed attitude about the export of Wahhabism for 40 years. What looked like disorder and destabilization was merely Wahhabis establishing their territory. In fact, we found it handy in Afghanistan, Chechnya, and Libya, and we sure tried to make a go of it in Syria.
So you see winners in the Middle East in recent history? Who would they be? Come on, you're so bright you must have a list handy... Saudi Arabia no doubt.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Tinfoil heads like Alex Jones have gone crazy
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIG
They will have to coordinate with Assad and Putin, and they will have to decide once and for all if Assad is really worse than a nation filled with Takfiri-Wahhabists. Yanno, they thought that destroying Iraq and Libya and Syria was something they could do without consequence. They were wrong- they played with fire and now they're getting burned.
Syria, Russia, and Iran are going to win the war in Syria, with or without the west. It will be up to the west to figure out how they might push the anti-jihad effort forward (i.e tag along).
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You talk about Wahhabism and who is responsible for that, so do I. However my being a purveyor of the truth allows me to discuss truthfully how DAESH managed to come to be. You point out only what plays into your agenda. How so you ask? By what you don’t submit as reasons for DAESH’s success.
One of the problems with Saudi Araba and other Sunni states sending troops into Syria to take on DAESH is that their main concern has not changed; Iran. ISIS or DAESH fights the spread of Iran’s influence in the Middle East.
You blame DAESH’s success to date as being based on America’s mistakes. An honest broker should point to mistakes made by the US, but the other side of events shows Iran and Russia being much more responsible. How so you ask, well not really because to speak of what I post next flies in the face of your agenda.
DAESH’s success can be tracked directly to Iran’s meddling in the Iraqi civil war. Without Iran’s support the Shite leaders in Iraq would never have chosen the course of completely excluding the Sunni’s from having any input in Iraq. It’s because of this the Sunni’s decided they would rather support DAESH than live under complete and unfair Shite rule.
DAESH is successful in Syria solely because of Assad and Russia. There was a revolution there due to Assad’s cruelty and DAESH had a chance to establish and maintain themselves because of Assad’s policy of not making them his primary concern. Instead he mostly targeted the moderate rebels fighting for their rights. Russia not only supported this policy but when arrived in force in Syria it became their strategy as well.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
DAESH is successful in Syria solely because of Assad and Russia.
Where do you get the Kool-Aid?
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Nobody in this country took McCain seriously. In other words he had no influence in what transpired.
JAYNZTOWN
I've a good feeling I'm far more intelligent than you, unless you count Miley cyrus iphones and pop culture as intelligence
Me
JAYNZTOWN
I'm not a native Englsih speaker but I've a good feeling I'm smarter than you
in physics, science, in languages, smarter in math, in art, in chemistry, music...I have a feeling I would beat you in anything kid
Me Can you say borderline personality?
JAYNZTOWN
You wanna be so concerned for muslims you're willing to help them all and maybe put the United States of America at risk? By brining in tens of thousands and possibly jeopardize the safety of American children and women and putting at risk the safety of Arab atheists and christains and muslim apostates who fled from Iraq by bringing in more wacko muslims....tell you what I got a better idea....if you feel that strong about it that you would rather put your own fellow Americans at risk maybe you should give up America for a while...I'll tell you what - maybe you should sign up with some U.N charity, sign up with the red cross, or sign up with some leftist liberalism charity group and go over there to help them in some Turkey, Israel, Jordan camp....maybe you should go over there yourself and help them if you would rather help them than help your fellow American!
Me
I am surprised because as you claim, you are smarter than I that you would realize my primary concern is not the Muslim population. And Instead that I am defending my countries constitution and bill of rights. People like you are always trying to destroy the concept of tolerance and inclusion.
JAYNZTOWN
and btw your such an assclown you don't even know what your debating against I'm not this mississippi conservative redneck cartoon character you try make me be, what if I told you I wasnt even 'white' your brain has been so taken by tv religion of regressive liberalism you don't even know what you argue against
Me
You don’t have to be white to be exactly what you claim not to be. If you were half as intelligent as you claim to be you would know this. You are exactly what you claim not to be and definitely not who you think you are.
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THGRRI You sell a propaganda lie
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Instead that I am defending my countries constitution and bill of rights. People like you are always trying to destroy the concept of tolerance and inclusion.
Why have you voiced support for terrorists who made threats to cartoonists?
Do you truly 'think' for yourself or do you just parrot the usual Left vs Right BS on the tv?
You support bringing in Criminals across a Border that traffic humans and kids and drugs, they kill thousands upon thousands of Americans
When you bring in people for example an islamo jihadi Pedophile Death Cult that go Sudden Jihadi and Bomb America, this is not 'Tolerance and Inclusion'
You are not Defending Your Constitution Either
You are Destroying America's Constitution and Helping Kill America's People Black, White, Yellow or Brown, you are helping to kill the United States of America.
back to news
http://www.expatica.com/fr/news/country-news/Nearly-1000-security-risk
s-denied-entry-to-France-since-Paris-attacks_558249.html
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=1
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/france-attack-guns-fr
om-ex-yugoslavia/story-fn3dxix6-1227626939619?sv=687158e7007d35a37ae23b026da49cdf
The refugee thing is a flop for the US admin
I think there are too many people in the USA who see through this media refugee-BS
Soros and others might be making money from the trafficking
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Originally posted by Wishimay:
I bet France kicks 'em out now!
None of us are surprised this happened, they have been cooking up this unrest and terrorism for a long time. The corruption, the jihad zones its been brewing up for years
In the West there is corruption, a dance of death, a sickness Bill Cosby and now House Speaker Dennis Hastert Joining a Crowded Ranks of Fallen Moralists ...in the years this all cooked up in France, they cared little for the nations security and only cafred for their own decay, sickness, rape and hedonism.
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The Strange Case Of Frédéric Mitterrand: France's Most Famous (Alleged) Pedophile
Frédéric Mitterrand has occupied the highest reaches of cultural and political life in France. Nephew of former President François Mitterrand, Frédéric Mitterrand has not only served as Minister of Culture and Communication but also achieved success as an actor, writer, producer, director, film critic, television star and even college professor.
Born to greatness and confidante to many of France's biggest luminaries, Frédéric is a genuine renaissance man.
However, he is also a pedophile, as he openly admitted in an autobiographical novel called "La Mauvaise Vie" ("The Bad Life"), which detailed his experiences in male brothels of Bangkok, Thailand.
“I got into the habit of paying for boys ... The profusion of young, very attractive and immediately available boys put me in a state of desire I no longer needed to restrain or hide," he wrote.
“All these rituals of the market for youths, the slave market, excite me enormously. One could judge this abominable spectacle from a moral standpoint, but it pleases me beyond the reasonable.”
A best seller in 2005, the book was widely praised for its candor.
Frederic's profile (or notoriety) was raised further when he defended the American film director, Roman Polanski, who fled to exile in Europe to escape charges of having raped an underage girl in Los Angeles. At the time, Polanski was arrested by police in Switzerland at the request of U.S. officials -- the Swiss later denied the extradition request and freed him.
Despite all these revelations, Frederic somehow kept his job as culture minister until May 2012 when Nicolas Sarkozy (his friend and benefactor) lost his bid for re-election as president.
Frederic even survived the vitriol of Marine Le Pen, the firebrand leader of the extreme right-wing National Front Party, who vociferously called for his resignation, citing his predilection for sex with young boys.
During a television appearance, Le Pen even recited lascivious passages from Frederic's book.
“If the National Front drag me through the mud then it is an honor for me,” Frederic defiantly declared in response to calls for his firing.
there are some very sick people in power in Western governments who care little for the safety, prosperity and secuirty of their nations
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THUGR ...
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DAESH’s success can be tracked directly to Iran’s meddling in the Iraqi civil war. Without Iran’s support the Shite leaders in Iraq would never have chosen the course of completely excluding the Sunni’s from having any input in Iraq. It’s because of this the Sunni’s decided they would rather support DAESH than live under complete and unfair Shite rule.
were you actually alive and aware during the Gulf War II (The Clone of the Attack)?? Cause, yanno, I remember when the USA (under The Great Paul Bremmer) tried to institute its neo-liberal economic policy in Iraq and de-Baathification and the disbanding of Saddam's Sunni Army was BREMMER'S idea. Even analysts at the time knew it was a mistake. Here, read this...
US Blunders in Iraq:De-Baathification and Disbanding the Army
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2010 ABSTRACT
In May 2003 Paul Bremer issued CPA Orders to exclude from the new Iraq government members of the Baath Party (CPA Order 1) and to disband the Iraqi Army (CPA Order 2). These two orders severely undermined the capacity of the occupying forces to maintain security and continue the ordinary functioning of the Iraq government. The decisions reversed previous National Security Council judgments and were made over the objections of high ranking military and intelligence officers. The article concludes that the most likely decision maker was the Vice President
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Early in the occupation of Iraq two key decisions were made that gravely jeopardized US chances for success in Iraq: (1) the decision to bar from government work Iraqis who ranked in the top four levels of Sadam’s Baath Party or who held positions in the top three levels of each ministry; (2) the decision to disband the Iraqi Army and replace it with a new army built from scratch. These two fateful decisions were made against the advice of military and CIA professionals and without consulting important members of the President’s staff and cabinet. This article will first examine the de-Baathification order and then take up the even more far reaching decision to disband the Iraqi Army.
Both of these decisions fueled the insurgency by: (1) alienating hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who could not support themselves or their families; (2) by undermining the normal infrastructure necessary for social and economic activity; (3) by ensuring that there was not sufficient security to carry on
normal life; and (4) by creating insurgents who were angry at the US, many of whom had weapons and were trained to use them.
These two key decisions, however, were presaged by President Bush’s decision in late April 2003 to remove Jay Garner and put Paul Bremer in complete charge of Iraq. Garner had experience in Iraq in the 1991 Gulf War and had been a career Army officer. In his preparations, he had worked closely with military planners. Bremer, who had no experience in Iraq or in Intelligence and National Securitymilitary occupations, worked in the Pentagon for the first nine days of May, and he arrived in Iraq on 12 May 2003.
http://pfiffner.gmu.edu/files/pdfs/Articles/CPA%20Orders,%20Iraq%20PDF
It's impossible to draw the correct lessons from history if you insist on re-writing it to suit your ideology.
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and it is not 'Workplace Violence' as Obama claims
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