Terminator Genysis starts today, Tuezday!

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MOOSE

Saturday, July 4, 2015 7:41 PM

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Jack Slater.

thanks for the correction. What was I thinking?
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You like T:G?

There wuz no footaje reuzed from the orijinal. They reshot new duplicate senez.

I liked it better than 3, maybe better than 4. not as much as 1 or 2.

Who is the Arnold clone? Those cuts look exactly like the original, just remastered.
I don't believe you. Do you have cites?

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/01/terminator-genisys-building-young
-arnold

SECOND

Sunday, July 5, 2015 2:16 AM

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http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/01/terminator-genisys-building-young
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That one scene required an entire team to design and create a fully digital, photo-real Schwarzenegger, something that had never been done this extensively on screen with a living actor. The ambitious digital trickery required Stopsack’s team of animators and designers at MPC to labor for 12 tension-filled months to create 35 shots that fill a mere five minutes of screen time. When Stopsack, who has worked on Guardians of the Galaxy and X-Men: Days of Future Past, first heard the idea of creating a synthetic actor—or “synthespian”—he was equal parts excited and terrified. “It’s a completely crazy idea due to the sheer complexity of the task,” he says. “To work on a digital human being is considered the holy grail in visual effects.”

Instead of a synthespian young Arnold Terminator, the movie producer should have hired real Summer Glau to beat the shit of old man Schwarzenegger. That would have been money well spent, better than paying a team of animators for 12 months. And besides, Summer has TV credits as a Terminator.

And it would be funnier when Summer Glau strolls up to the three thugs and says, "Give me your clothes."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JO753

Sunday, July 5, 2015 7:36 AM

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I liked it better than 3, maybe better than 4. not as much as 1 or 2.

You'll get over it after several viewingz.

And I will probably like it better the next time I see it.

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Who is the Arnold clone? Those cuts look exactly like the original, just remastered.
I don't believe you. Do you have cites?

Moose'z link tellz the story. I'v seen the orijinal probably 30 timez, including Tuezday morning befor seeing T5, so spotted the differensez rite away. A big wun you shoud hav notised iz that the main punk wuznt played by Bill Paxton.

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JO753

Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:44 AM

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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/TerminatorGenisys

Interesting stuff. They must hav a copy uv the movie in order to be so thuro. Or inhumanly perfect memoryz!

"Traveling at the speed uv plot" HA! I luv it!

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As in that cartoon, it can be dangerous to disassemble a not particularly good movie into it's clunky components.

Yep. Sumtimez it helps to be stoopid. Sum peeps really liked Signs. It wuz a bad day at the theater for me.

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And why wasn't Firefly's Summer Glau, from Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles fighting with Schwarzenegger? That would have made the movie more like TV, but good TV.

That woud hav been kool. Why arent you a professional riter?

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JO753

Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:55 AM

For moviez I alredy know I'm going to see I hav alwayz avoided trailerz, commercialz, interviewz, reviewz - anything that coud tip me off for wuts going to happen.

I am wun uv the few peepl on Earth who didnt know that Arnold wuz the good guy in T2.

Wun uv the thingz that bugz me iz that movie critics seem to think its their job to tell the plot uv the movie, including major story events. Between them and the advertizing, you wonder why anybody woud pay 10 bucks to just fill in the blanks.

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Sunday, July 5, 2015 2:54 PM

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And why wasn't Firefly's Summer Glau, from Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles fighting with Schwarzenegger? That would have made the movie more like TV, but good TV.

That woud hav been kool. Why arent you a professional riter?

Because I've seen how bad professional writers are? Metacritic helpfully graphs the steady fall in quality of writing in Terminator movies. www.metacritic.com The visual part of the movies get better and better, but the words coming out of the actors' mouths, especially the reasons for their actions, get dumber and dumber.

Skynet has a really good trick to beat John Connor, a trick written by Laeta Elizabeth Kalogridis. A trick that is immediately nullified by another screenplay writer (Patrick Lussier, writer of Dracula III, Dracula II, Dracula 2000, a boatload of crap) giving Kyle Reese a vision of what the trick is. Two writers was one too many on this movie.

It is a spoiler to tell you that the trick is:

Select to view spoiler:

A Terminator will build Skynet in 2017. This time Skynet metastasizes into Genisys. Rather than H-bomb Earth, Genisys will control your smart phone, your TV and bank account.

Your smart electric meter will turn off power to your house because you have not paid your bill. Your credit cards will never work again at the grocery store! You will starve to death. And there will be liquid metal robots with machine guns in the streets to kill looters stealing cans of beans from the closed grocery stores.

It's an existential horror for humanity!

After Kyle Reese's mystical vision reveals Skynet's trick, Skynet sends a Terminator, for no worthwhile reason, to also tell Sarah Connor the evil plan, just to make extra certain that the evil plan will fail. Thank you very much writer Patrick Lussier for being a crap artist. You made Skynet stupider than an average human.

Only fire can redeem Terminator: Genisys. Fireworks will have to do. Time runs backwards in this video, starting at 3:08, just like a Terminator movie:

The music is Por Ti Volare sung by Andrea Bocelli
Lyrics to Por Ti Volare (For You I'll Fly) are at

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JO753

Monday, July 6, 2015 2:03 AM

Like you sed, it duznt help to think too hard.

A real Skynet, being super intelligent, woud hav figured out the chain uv events in a second, then IF it still desided to launch the nukez, woud hav stored all available info about everybody. With this, it woud only need to distract the rite person at the rite moment or at most several key peepl in order to derail their livez if anything went rong in the future.

I had a movie idea back in 85 about this: The Urinator

Skynet sendz a syborg cat back to 1984 to pee on the leg uv the orijinal father
uv John Connor just az he iz heading out the door for hiz date with Sara. For good measure, he also runz in the apartment and hozez the whole plase down. That puts an end to that fateful date nite for sure. The Urinator will spend the rest uv its dayz following Sara around in case any other alternate baby daddy showz up. It will be programmed to assess potential fatherz, possibly allowing a hook up with a guy who will father a loozer.

No doomzday warning. No violent gun battlez. No hint that anybody iz uv special importans. Sara continuez to be a waitress at hamburger joints, possibly getting into drugz with her loozer boyfrend.

And if the timeline keeps skewing to create rebel leaderz, The Urinator iz still there to divert them or prevent them from being born.

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Monday, July 6, 2015 4:06 AM

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Like you sed, it duznt help to think too hard.

There is a fantastic article at Entertainment Weekly that valiantly tries to rationally explain everything.
www.ew.com/article/2015/06/30/terminator-genisys-franchise-timeline-ex
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You will learn this about Summer Glau's show:

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I feel the masochistic need to take a brief detour here and mention Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, which is notable for a lot of reasons, not least because it was the first time an actress from Game of Thrones played Sarah Connor. (Expect the Maisie Williams-fronted reboot sometime next decade.) Sarah Connor Chronicles ran for two seasons on Fox, ending its run just a month before Salvation hit theaters. It never quite found a groove, partially because the plot was built on helium nonsense, but there was a lot to love in the show. (James Cameron thinks so; he hired showrunner Josh Friedman as one of his Avatar sequel co-writers.)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JO753

Monday, July 6, 2015 1:12 PM

Darren did an exellent job there!

I disagree about T3. He probably only saw it wuns, so didnt get sum uv the detailz.

Therez a much eazier way to think about it that duznt make it all seem like contradictory nonsense: Crosstime travel. The timelinez are not deleted by altering the past, a new timeline iz created.

I read Andre Norton'z The Crossroads Of Time wen I wuz in 3rd grade, so its the lojik my brain wuz programmed with.
http://www.amazon.com/Crossroads-Of-Time-Andre-Norton/dp/0441123163

I think I mite still hav it here!

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SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, July 6, 2015 1:25 PM

I have to say, after seeing the movie, I have to agree with you 100% J0753.
There were moments, which has my thumb halfway, but it was unremarkable and Arnold was the best thing going for the movie.

Don't get me wrong I liked Emilia Clarke as Sarah Connor, but there wasn't any chemistry between Sarah and Kyle Reese, none whatsoever. And the dialogue was mediocre at best, and flat. I have to say, it was a good concept - changing the timeline - but making John Connor a cyborg!? My guess is they are trying to squeeze out a couple more of these. If that's the case, they desperately need better writing and better direction.

Room for improvement; YES!

1- Kill off Kyle Reese, he was horrible.
2- Bring back Michael Biehn and have him as the love interest, like Arnold, he's aged gracefully and that would make for an interesting subplot. Plus it would feed into the changed timeline scenario.
3- No more Arnold cyborgs. How about introducing a Sly Stallone cyborg (just a thought)
4- Stop with the over-the-top explosions. We get it, cyborgs crush things.
One of the cooler things they did was how they defeated the T-1000.
5- I did like how they re-wrote the timeline, but hated how they told you what they were going to do and then do it. It was very flat and unimaginative.
6- Bring back Michael Biehn, Joe Morton and, of course, Arnold. Even Linda Hamilton.

There, I fixed it!

SGG

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I hate to say anything bad about my fave franchize, but this iz not a great movie.

Its not horrible. It haz its moments, but its way below par for a Terminator movie. Bad direction. Arnold did a great job. JK Simmonz wuz excellent, but alot uv the action wuz unmemorable and there were sum stoopid mistakes. The dialog wuz flat. All thingz considered, its worth a vizit tio the theater, but I feel like I'v watched an episode uv a TV show rather than a blockbuster epic movie.

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