Joss Parties for Kerry

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BONNIET

Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:14 PM

As many of you know, Joss Whedon supports John Kerry for President. I found these sites today and thought I'd give everyone a heads up since I don't see this here anywhere yet and the date is fast arriving! The parties are on October 24th already.

Info: http://www.offworldgraphics.com/Joss4Kerry.html

Official info: http://www.highstakes2004.com/

People hosting these parties will get a real live call from JOSS himself!

Try to go to one or even better, host one. Joss is 100% behind this and participating, so it's a unique opportunity to make HIM HAPPY.......... and we want Joss happy, now, right?

QUICKSAND

Monday, October 18, 2004 2:32 AM

Hey, I just want to see the American People happy. Maybe after November 2nd, people will finally shut up.

Assuming the right guy wins.

(hint: war is bad)

CREVANREAVER

Monday, October 18, 2004 2:47 AM

VOTE BADNARIK!

http://badnarik.org/
http://www.lp.org/

SGTGUMP

Monday, October 18, 2004 3:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
VOTE BADNARIK!

http://badnarik.org/
http://www.lp.org/

BONNIET

Monday, October 18, 2004 4:01 AM

Badnarick isn't a bad guy, but he's redundant.
Kerry himself is a left-leaning libertarian!

http://www.issues2002.org/John_Kerry.htm

Hey, Joss likes Kerry. Have a fund-raising shindig for Kerry.... Invite Badnarick. He must be sort of a lonely guy. He'd probably like a party about now.

AERONSTORM

Monday, October 18, 2004 4:47 AM

Well, at least us conservatives still have Adam...

BONNIET

Monday, October 18, 2004 5:01 AM

Yes, that's true! Maybe you can get Adam to call *you* for Bush. I'm all for equal time.

CREVANREAVER

Monday, October 18, 2004 5:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BONNIET:
Kerry himself is a left-leaning libertarian!

Bullsh

t, that website claims Kerry is a Libertarian-Leaning Liberal. And the site is actually wrong, there's nothing libertarian-leaning about Hanoi John.

Libertarians ideologically are opposed to any government intervention in abortion, Kerry wants the government heavily involved in funding abortions.

True libertarians love capitalism, Kerry has a strong anti-business voting record.

The majority of libertarians see the public school as a failure and realize the best solution is to completely privatize the education system, Kerry has a history of pro-public education votes.

Most libertarians want the government out of our health care, Kerry is all for socialized health care.

Libertarians want Social Security privatized, Kerry has been staunchly oppose to that.

Every genuine libertarian has the highest respect for the Second Amendment of the US Constitution and unconditionally supports the right to bear arms, Kerry is for aggressive gun control.

He supported the Assault Weapons Band and the Brady Bill. He supports suing gun manufacturers for gun violence (showing he doesn't believe in personal responsibility). Overall Kerry has received a completely deserved F rating from the National Rifle Association due to his opposition to Americans' right to personal property.

So, John Kerry is not a libertarian by any stretch of the term.

He's a tax and spend, big government, socialist liberal!

VOTE BADNARIK!

ANYBODY BUT KERRY!

BONNIET

Monday, October 18, 2004 6:21 AM

No need for hostilities. I didn't want to discuss politics, it was just a remark because Badnarick was brought up.

- Joss likes John Kerry

- You can talk to Joss if you host a Kerry party on October 24th. If you host a Badnarick party, you won't talk to Joss.

That is all.

http://www.offworldgraphics.com/Joss4Kerry.html

CREVANREAVER

Monday, October 18, 2004 6:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BONNIET:
You can talk to Joss if you host a Kerry party on October 24th. If you host a Badnarick party, you won't talk to Joss.

OK, I'll concede - that is a good point. And by the way, it's spelled Badnarik, not Badnarick.

HERO

Monday, October 18, 2004 2:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BONNIET:
No need for hostilities. I didn't want to discuss politics, it was just a remark because Badnarick was brought up.

- Joss likes John Kerry

- You can talk to Joss if you host a Kerry party on October 24th. If you host a Badnarick party, you won't talk to Joss.

Sounds good to me. I'll host a party for Kerry. I just hope Joss talks about Firefly and Serenity, cause I'm a Bush supporter.

I'll be the only one at the party, since none of my friends will want to come, not even the local Browncoats. So really he'll just be calling me.

There's an idea. All you Republican Browncoats out there sign up to host a Kerry party. Get a call from Joss, keep him on the phone as long as you can so he can't call the real parties.

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MURMURER

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:39 AM

Won't work, it's a conference call.

Also, you need to give a $35 donation.

JENDANDY

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:44 AM

Interesting...didn't know Joss was so political.

Sig Rebel

NEUTRINOLAD

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:14 AM

Interesting...didn't know Joss was so political.

Honey-chile, everybody political.

EMBERS

Thursday, October 21, 2004 5:35 PM

Joss was at the Bronze Beta this morning, talking about his fundraising activities this Sunday:

joss says:
(Thu Oct 21 06:23:34 2004) [Edit/Delete]
Ahh, the red. It still works.

And now that I'm back in the system, let me get stumpy on y'all. In case nobody said, I'm doing a little country wide phone gala this Sunday to beat the bushes (amazingly enough, that was totally unintentional. My very SUBCONSCIOUS is a punster!)for Kerry supporters in these cucial last weeks. If you're interested:

highstakes2004.com

-- provides the info. We'll be talking, I'll inevitably be punning, I will be deadly serious on the subject of politics but not in that how-can-I-edge-away-from-this-guy-who's-still-talking-at-the-party way. There'll be Buffy talk, Serenity talk, shrubbery, and I'll give stuff away! (Not plot stuff, signed stuff.) (and not shrubbery.)

End of stumpy! Let's dish on the stars! Isn't that Marc Blucas DREAMY?!?!

joss says:
(Thu Oct 21 06:26:29 2004) [Edit/Delete]
Like I said, there CUCIAL last weeks. These last weeks are CUCIAL. Simply cucial. I mean it. We're down to the wyre and ebery vot koontz.

I didn't ever actually learn to type. Is that okay?

BONNIET

Friday, October 22, 2004 12:01 AM

Hi, is this an absolutely true comment from Joss? If so, I'd like to post it elsewhere if you are sure it's 100% legitimate. Thank you for posting it!!

BONNIET

Friday, October 22, 2004 12:06 AM

It's a conference call, but if you want to host a party for Kerry, go right ahead..... remember there's a minimum donation. And your location becomes known so other Kerry supporters or whoever can join you at your party.

Bush supporters are welcome, as long as you give a little to Kerry. Everyone is welcome.

EMBERS

Friday, October 22, 2004 12:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BONNIET:
Hi, is this an absolutely true comment from Joss?

absolutely true:
Joss posted in red...just scroll down here:
http://www.bronzebeta.com/

You can also see his post at Whedonesque here
(under the More Xmen 3 rumors thread):
http://whedonesque.com/?comments=5133

definitely feel free to repost the information,
because Joss will be on the phone on Sunday and
definitely wants to talk to everyone who wants to be there!

BONNIET

Friday, October 22, 2004 12:41 AM

Also: Joss himself will be attending one of the LA parties.

I know this for a fact. Lucky LA people! Go to the www.highstakes2004.com site for more info. that will be coming on that.

BONNIET

Friday, October 22, 2004 12:43 AM

Thanks, I did get the links, I'll be posting it where ever I can. Help me out on that if you want! We should get this out everywhere. Sunday is coming up fast!

COBBOFCANTON

Friday, October 22, 2004 1:49 AM

John Kerry sucks. He has no idea of what the American people need and what they need is a president who can lead us to a victory in Iraq. George Bush can easily do that for us. I am only 14 years old and I think Pres. Bush should be put back in the White House for FOUR MORE YEARS.

Sean Parish A.K.A. CobbofCanton

ANARKO

Friday, October 22, 2004 2:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CobbofCanton:
John Kerry sucks. He has no idea of what the American people need and what they need is a president who can lead us to a victory in Iraq.

Absolutely! This is one smart kid.

EMBERS

Friday, October 22, 2004 2:03 PM

The funraising party, High Stakes, is getting really big in LA!
Joss will be there in person!
And Fred & Gun are joining him!!!!
Here is the link w/all the details:
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=18667
(I wish I lived in LA)

HERO

Friday, October 22, 2004 4:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BONNIET:
It's a conference call, but if you want to host a party for Kerry, go right ahead..... remember there's a minimum donation. And your location becomes known so other Kerry supporters or whoever can join you at your party.

Bush supporters are welcome, as long as you give a little to Kerry. Everyone is welcome.

Will they take post dated checks? How bout pledges?

I live in Ohio so I'm sure I can make up the names of hundreds of fictional Democrats to pledge money and vote for Kerry, I just have to check the local voter registration. If he's willing to take their votes, he should be willing to take what money they offer.

Maybe I can pay in crack, thats Democratic currency here in Ohio.

H

BONNIET

Friday, October 22, 2004 10:00 PM

Nothing like a comment containing the word "crack"!
I wonder why Republicans seem so bitter though, hmph. Maybe because your candidate is a trained monkey?

OK, seriously, Update on the Joss Call-in parties for Kerry:

Joss will be attending the Los Angeles party, please RSVP with the hosts if you can attend. Because of Joss's presence there and other guests:

Amy Acker - (Winifred (Fred) on Angel)
J. August Richards - (Charles Gunn on Angel)
and Herc of AintItCoolNews will be there. Quite possibly more.

The minimum there will be higher, so the party's admission will be from $50-2000, with all proceeds going to Kerry.

Joss calling remains the same!

www.highstakes2004.com

SHINY

Friday, October 22, 2004 10:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BONNIET:
Nothing like a comment containing the word "crack"!
I wonder why Republicans seem so bitter though, hmph. Maybe because your candidate is a trained monkey?

...without the training.

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

SIMONF

Friday, October 22, 2004 10:52 PM

I have it on the upmost authority that Nathan Fillion will be attending the party with Joss in L.A. . As well as Alyson Hannigan, Nick Brendon, Alexis Denisof, J. August Richards, Tom Lenk, Danny Strong and. Julie Benz

EMBERS

Friday, October 22, 2004 11:17 PM

Wow, this is one BDP (Big Damn Party)!
I sure do wish I lived in LA...
heck, if they had announced this a week ago I would have arranged to fly out!

I hope everyone who is there takes pictures
and records every word that is said!

BONNIET

Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonF:
I have it on the upmost authority that Nathan Fillion will be attending the party with Joss in L.A. . As well as Alyson Hannigan, Nick Brendon, Alexis Denisof, J. August Richards, Tom Lenk, Danny Strong and. Julie Benz

How cool is that -- The Captain!
I have also heard that more than 25% of these parties are being done by Browncoats. Good job Browncoats!

Hope there are lots of photos ....

FLYINGTAMS

Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CrevanReaver:

VOTE BADNARIK!

ANYBODY BUT KERRY!

A vote for BADNARIK is a vote for Bush. A vote for Bush is a vote for more terrorism (why do you think it has gone up during his reign - because he is provoking everybody else)

FLYINGTAMS

Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:
There's an idea. All you Republican Browncoats out there sign up to host a Kerry party. Get a call from Joss, keep him on the phone as long as you can so he can't call the real parties.

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MOHRSTOUTBEARD

Saturday, October 23, 2004 1:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CobbofCanton:
John Kerry sucks. He has no idea of what the American people need and what they need is a president who can lead us to a victory in Iraq. George Bush can easily do that for us. I am only 14 years old and I think Pres. Bush should be put back in the White House for FOUR MORE YEARS.

This might be why 14 year olds are not allowed to vote.

"You've just gotta go ahead and change the captain of your brainship, because he's drunk at the wheel."

GHOULMAN

Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BONNIET:
Nothing like a comment containing the word "crack"!
I wonder why Republicans seem so bitter though, hmph.

What HERO means by this...

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
Maybe I can pay in crack, thats Democratic currency here in Ohio.

Is that the Afro community isn't welcome. It's a little code white crackers use to imply democrates are crack smoking "black folk".

Rascism.

SOUPCATCHER

Saturday, October 23, 2004 7:08 PM

Actually, I think Hero is referring to a voter registration fraud case in Ohio. A woman volunteered (or was recruited, not sure which) with the NAACP to register voters and then turned around and sub-contracted. She was paying her sub-contractor with crack cocaine. The dude got about six registrations and then faked a few hundred more (all in his handwriting with addresses that didn't exist and names like Mary Poppins and Michael Jackson). This was discovered after the applications had been submitted and an investigation led to the dude and then his employer.

So ease off the accelerator, Ghoulman.

* we now return you to the regularly scheduled thread already in progress *

There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.

BONNIET

Sunday, October 24, 2004 6:32 AM

I have one last reminder for tomorrow and a large, sunny ray of hope for all procrastinators~~

DON'T FORGET the High Stakes parties tomorrow!! The Joss phone call is at 2:00 pm PT/5:00 pm ET

All you procrastinators still have time to find a High Stakes party:

www.highstakes2004.com

IF YOU CAN'T attend a party, there is still hope for you. You can go to www.johnkerry.com/buffy and donate. Then you can dial in from home and hear Joss anyway. Wow, what Joss will do for his fans!

You have to do it really soon though, like now if possible! As soon as possible, that is. Very early tomorrow morning would work too. After that, the organizers will be headed off to the parties and then you're out of luck.

So don't miss out! This is your last chance to hear Joss answer bothersome fan questions, talk about X3, Serenity, Kerry and whatever else he's got on his mind.

WASPFAN

Sunday, October 24, 2004 4:12 PM

I just believe that Stars should not do this. I am a supporter of the president (not 14) and a huge Josh fan. Knowing that the liberal leaning Hollywood is doing what they can to subvert an election is really cause for concern. Who do the libertarians and republicans have for this type of "advertisement".

What is it that these actors and writers feel that their opinions in politics matter? I personally just wish the whole of Hollywood would shut up and start concentrating on making good movies again. They have not been doing this well for years!

As for the election, be careful who you vote for. I have a feeling people are voting for Kerry just BECAUSE they want a change, not because they believe him to be a good presidential candidate.

As for Josh doing this, it is greatly disappointing to me. Do these Hollywood types understand on how this makes their fans feel about them? Why in the world would I change my opinion because of someone who writes fiction?

I don't get it. Probably never will.

A concerned Citizen!

ITSMRWILSON

Sunday, October 24, 2004 4:54 PM

"I just believe that Stars should not do this. I am a supporter of the president (not 14) and a huge Josh fan. Knowing that the liberal leaning Hollywood is doing what they can to subvert an election is really cause for concern. Who do the libertarians and republicans have for this type of "advertisement"."

Oh, I dunno. How about Sinclair? I'd say that's a pretty powerful group using its weight to support Bush.

Everyone has the right to speak out, even celebrities. I mean, really, if the National Rifle Association can endorse a candidate, then so can Joss Whedon. Who do you think has more clout?

MOHRSTOUTBEARD

Sunday, October 24, 2004 8:29 PM

Quote:
What is it that these actors and writers feel that their opinions in politics matter?

I guess they thought they were citizens of the United States of America and that they had a right to voice their opinion.

Whatever gave them that silly notion, I'll never know.

"You've just gotta go ahead and change the captain of your brainship, because he's drunk at the wheel."

EMBERS

Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:22 PM

Joss’ phone call was only a half hour long, which is disappointing
I’m only writing up the non-political parts…I’m sure that the complete transcript will be available online soon
But I don’t take notes that fast anyway.

Joss arrived and thanked us for having him in our homes but he wished we had put a little more effort into the decorations, but really…it is just fine…
He introduced Alyson Hannigan & Amy Acker, who were the only ones courageous enough to get into the booth with him.

Alyson volunteered the information that altho Emma Cawfield is a Republican she is voting for Kerry (this was in response to a question about how you talk to/convince people like Adam Baldwin)

Someone pointed out that ED’s TV show Tru Calling has been cancelled and would Faith be in a Buffyverse movie…
Joss replied that he loves Faith and Eliza, and they both deserve a wonderful vehicle to explore the character further, but no body can say when anything like that will happen (evidently there are no Buffyverse movies in the offing, altho he didn’t say that directly).

Someone asked about writing a mythic character and Joss said it helps to hire brilliant actors, and he introduced Nick Brendon & Alexis Denisoff who had worked up their courage to come into the booth. Nick said ‘hi’ and Alexis said he would be happy to take any questions so long as Joss answers them.
Joss went on to say that you have to write
1. Bigger than life
2. A story people can relate to
And then the two work together to make a mythic story, you can’t leave out either element.

Someone asked what we as fans can do to encourage Joss to keep writing and he said: Elect John Kerry, because otherwise he will spiral into a depression and stop writing.
(sorry I know you don’t necessarily want to hear the political stuff, but he was taking a political spin on everything,
And they chose the questions for political content I think).

Joss said that he is currently writing a new screen play, something that is not based on anyone else’s work or on anything he wrote in the past.

He was asked again about the Ats cliffhanger and he repeated that the message was that you have to keep fighting…
But he went ahead and said (I think he was being flippant):
Gunn dies (groans in the background…I think J August Richards was there)
Allyria survives
Spike Shanshues
Angel loses an arm Xander loses his other eye with is odd because he wasn’t even there.

Question about who Spike would vote for. Joss said, ‘Spike, he is so hot!’
Joss went on to say he always secretly thought that Spike was a tad more evolved than Angel. But Spike loves a fight, and might want to be ornery…and has a wicked sense of humor. So maybe Spike would vote for Nader.

Introduced Nathan Fillon who got lost & turned around and ended up in Santa Monica, which is a comment on his GPS system.

Joss also said he would NOT be directing Xmen3, he wasn’t going to be writing or directing it…he thought long and hard about it but Fox didn’t ask him and if he showed up to start directing it would be a faux pas…

So it was only a half hour, and went by way too quickly…:(

But it was fun!
And there was a lot more…be sure to read the transcripts when they come out if you want to hear Joss’ political rants.

JEBBYPAL

Monday, October 25, 2004 3:40 AM

Why shouldn't stars do this? Is it any worse than corporation donations or directives given to employees to donate to campaigns (and yes, this is done epecially at investment houses to get around campaign finance reform)? Or how 'bout all the special interest ads w/ questionable "facts"?

Face it, in the current state of politics, the candidate's stance doesn't really matter. Just the sound bite. This year it seems like the only people talking about the issues (besides in the debates) are the stars on the bully pulpit. And in lieu of a media that actually does investigative reporting rather than spewing talking points, it's better than nothing.

AMNESIACK

Monday, October 25, 2004 3:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by waspfan:
I just believe that Stars should not do this. I am a supporter of the president (not 14) and a huge Josh fan.

As for Josh doing this, it is greatly disappointing to me.

Celebrities have the right to express themselves however they want, just like you have the right to not even know the correct name of someone you're supposedly a big fan of.

------------------------------------------------
My backpack's got jets.

GHOULMAN

Monday, October 25, 2004 1:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Actually, I think Hero is referring to a voter registration fraud case in Ohio. A woman volunteered (or was recruited, not sure which) with the NAACP to register voters and then turned around and sub-contracted. She was paying her sub-contractor with crack cocaine. SNIP!
So ease off the accelerator, Ghoulman.

Oh man. I have to apologize to HERO?

I'm sorry HERO, I'm wrong.

Please understand - that language is precisely the sort of "code" racists use. Especially the campaign people in the Bush camp and White Supremacists, they always refer to others as drug soaked sub-humans.

Ghoulman

HERO

Monday, October 25, 2004 4:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ghoulman:

Oh man. I have to apologize to HERO?

I'm sorry HERO, I'm wrong.

Yes, yes you are. Wrong about so much.

Quote:

Please understand - that language is precisely the sort of "code" racists use. Especially the campaign people in the Bush camp and White Supremacists, they always refer to others as drug soaked sub-humans.

I understand all to well. All I said was that in Ohio the Democrats were using crack for currency.

I note you responded by calling me a racist and using a derogatory racist term "cracker". Thats just another word for nig##r in my book. Maybe you should throw around WOP or Wetback or Chink, since you can't be sure what I really am.

You suggest the fault here lies with the Bush Campaign and the white supremicists. I don't see either handing out crack for votes in Ohio. That distiction lies with the National Organization for the Advancement of Colored People.

I acknowledge the problems the Right wing needs to address in regards to race relations. But at least the racists on the right are ostracized. The left embraces racism as a means to keep power. Much of their power comes from the continued suppression of African Americans, so they not only discourage progress, they take advantage of the circumstances they help to foster and then claim the high ground on Sunday mornings and election days. Its a disgusting diservice to those they are claiming to represent.

So yes, you are wrong. More wrong then you are willing to admit.

H

GHOULMAN

Monday, October 25, 2004 7:09 PM

^^^ oh man, he's lovin' this.

SOUPCATCHER

Monday, October 25, 2004 8:34 PM

Hero, it's NAACP, not NOACP, and there is no evidence that using crack to pay for registration was known/ordered/condoned by that group. It's like blaming a corporation for the actions taken by a temp in hiring another person to do their work for them. So I think you stretched the truth on that one. For more details on the story (as well as a picture of the idiot who engaged in the fraud) here is a link: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041019/NEWS09/
410190343/-1/NEWS
I was also off on my numbers: he submitted more than a hundred, not the hundreds that I stated. The policies in place to catch this type of voter fraud worked (although it is problematic that they were every turned in in the first place - someone fell down on the job there).

I don't envy those who are living in contested states. I get lots of political junk mail and daily recorded phone messages and my state has been out of play for the entire campaign. I can't imagine what it must be like to live where both campaigns are investing tremendous resources. Things look nasty in Ohio.

For example, a very small scale printing error led to one candidate being left off absentee ballots (only two ballots that actually reached voters but, as the article states, this just feeds paranoia):
http://www.cincypost.com/2004/10/18/absen101804.html

There are complaints concerning absentee ballots mailed out in Cuyahoga County and a potential for people to vote for a different candidate then they attended (once again, this looks like a case of people not reading instructions and getting confused):
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OHIO_VOTING?SITE=OHCOD&SECTION=
HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

A break in occurred at the Lucas County campaign headquarters and computers were stolen that contained campaign related information (it sounds like one of the people at the headquarters unintentionally disabled the motion alarm through stupidity so the break in was not immediately detected):
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041013/NEWS03/
410130378

Voters in Franklin County got phone calls claiming to be from the local board of elections (a lie) telling them that the polling sites had been changed:
http://www.nbc4i.com/politics/3843020/detail.html
Alert people called the board to verify and this is how the story broke.

Both of the campaigns are trying to get thousands of recruits stationed inside polling places to question people's eligibility to vote (this would be in addition to the volunteers who are there to do this job anyway. This would not be legal in my state - we have a 100 foot no-harassment zone around polling places):
http://tinyurl.com/3jsu2

People who resigned from a South Dakota campaign after voting fraud allegations (ongoing investigation - some indictments) have joined the Ohio campaign:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/9927899.htm
(Sorry, that link required registration ).

So good luck, Hero. And all those others living in swing states. The final days of nastiness are here.

* big thanks to the dKosopedia on voting fraud allegations broken down by state found at dailyKos.

There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.

EMBERS

Monday, October 25, 2004 9:19 PM

SoupCatcher: thanks for articles...
in my own home town we had a closely contested Mayoral race where the standing Mayor counted several hundred highly questionable nursing home ballots that were filled out by the staff on behalf of the patients...
and many opponets to the Mayor were forced to drive home to get their passports to 'prove' they were really citizens even tho they were on the registered voters list and had voted before!

But I'm surprised that no one on this thread seems to care at all about Joss...
I understood that there were a lot of house parties for the High Stakes fundraiser held by Browncoats and I was hoping to hear some reports of experiences...

SOUPCATCHER

Monday, October 25, 2004 9:36 PM

Sorry for the thread hijacking, Embers. I decided to jump in on a comment Ghoulman made that I felt was unfortunate and then it spiraled out of control from there (I probably should've just started another thread on voting irregularities).

I really enjoyed your description of what happened at the High Stakes event you attended and I look forward to what others have to post.

There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL

Monday, October 25, 2004 10:18 PM

I was at the LA party - it was amazing! There were only about 200 people there, and a dozen or so Whedonverse actors, so I got to talk to each one for a few minutes!

My girlfriend and I talked to Nathan the most, and he was incredibly nice and funny. We had someone take our picture with him, and then he took the camera to see the picture. He didn't like it, so he held the camera out in front of the three of us and retook it himself!

Can anyone please tell me how to post pictures here, so I can share it?

"I like smackin' 'em!" - Jayne Cobb

DAIKATH

Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by spikeandjezebel:
Can anyone please tell me how to post pictures here, so I can share it?

Go to the blue sun room and under the list of the little screencap on the upper left choose 'Add Image'.

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL

Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:50 AM

Thanks! I'll do so right now!

"I like smackin' 'em!" - Jayne Cobb

COBBOFCANTON

Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:03 PM

This is for MOHRSTOUTBEARD

I listen to Sean Hannity every day. He has shown me the truth about Democrats. They are like "Trained monkeys, without the training".

Please reply to me. I would like to educate you about the wickedness of your liberal ways.

P.S. Listen to Sean Hannity and get "Hannitized".

Sean Parish A.K.A CobbofCanton

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:24 PM

Give us a Kerry, heck even get us a Nader,
why we'd even like a Dean in there, Nancy Reagan or Daddy-Bush

Anything but that silly little Junior baby Bush
they guy can barely speak English
anything but little-Bush would almost be acceptable at this stage

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Originally posted by JaynezTown:
The words Bush , Smart and Economics shouldn't really be put together

Got this one on another debate

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The IMF warned that increased federal debt from the deficits would make funding social security and healthcare more difficult.Robert Rubin, former treasury secretary under Bill Clinton, along with other senior economists, published a report warning that the Bush administration's record deficits will have "severe adverse consequences" for all Americans and is unsustainable. Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) is sounded a note of caution
"Cost estimates for the new programs range from $550 billion to $1 trillion," said CAGW President Tom Schatz. "Until the federal government brings the record deficit back down to Earth, it should not launch expensive new space programs of questionable scientific value."

but there's more

The Congressional Budget Office estimated that the federal budget deficit would swell to $477 billion this year, a record in terms of the sheer number of dollars involved
Bush hasn't offered any more specifics for cutting the deficit, and -- according to some analysts -- what plans he has proposed seem more likely to grow the deficit, including:
What's more, spending on Social Security and Medicare -- "mandatory" budget expenditures -- will skyrocket by the end of the decade, as millions of baby boomers begin to retire, de Rugy and other analysts say.

"This is like running up a credit card debt and asking our kids to pay for it in the future -- it's fiscal child abuse," de Rugy said.

http://home.socal.rr.com/bootbush/images/Budget%20Deficit%20JPEG.JPG

how Bush almost Destroyed the Dollar !!

Massive rise on health and medi care costs, a huge mess in Iraq, the pension system starting to strain, industrial output dropping, the President breaking new records by being the only leader since the Great Depression to lose jobs, huge cost of security, North Korea is pronouncing the word nuclear better than Bush. There are jobs being sent over seas to China which grows rapidly while the Euro has become a strong alternetive for investors unsure about the unsteady dollar, big scandals Worldcom, Halliburton, Enron another massive rise in Oil prices , by any standard, going from +6 trillion to -1 trillion is abysmal. Enron would be proud. and unemployement figures don't look so good and the USA's debts goin up to astronomical levels.

A huge loss of 1.6 million jobs and Medicare premiums that are up by a record 17
percent. Spiraling deficits could prove a thorny reelection issue for both men, who will be able to stop this weak economic performance and the massive rise in the US debts. As Senator Bob Graham said "George Bush is managing this economy the way his friend Ken Lay managed Enron," "Whoever wins the 2004 election will have to take these deficits seriously," said Robert Bixby.

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..There is a very serious health care crisis in the USA, the costs of Iraq have been massive, so will either Bush or Kerry be able to fix this? There have been more jobs lost than in any four years in the US since the Great Depression and sadly a new record with some of the worst deficits ever. Another import new item has surfaced the most wicked and biggest SOBof our times is indeed very much alive and well and videotaping in his own personal blockbuster studio again! What is disturbing is rather telling how the current operation against bin Laden is going or how either person plans to kill Osama , Bush and Kerry have instead decided to attack each other with mud slinging tactics ? !! Osama Bin Laden Is Alive, and making threats against Americans. The tone quickly

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MOHRSTOUTBEARD

Monday, November 1, 2004 5:56 AM

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Originally posted by CobbofCanton:
This is for MOHRSTOUTBEARD

I listen to Sean Hannity every day. He has shown me the truth about Democrats. They are like "Trained monkeys, without the training".

Please reply to me. I would like to educate you about the wickedness of your liberal ways.

P.S. Listen to Sean Hannity and get "Hannitized".

Sean Parish A.K.A CobbofCanton

For one thing, I wouldn't consider myself a Democrat. To quote Ferris Bueller, "-Ism's in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, 'I don't believe in The Beatles, I just believe in me.' Good point there. After all, he was the walrus." Party lines don't mean anything (or, at most, very little) to me.

But, yes, I would consider myself a liberal. My dictionary defines liberal thusly:

"1.a. Open-minded; tolerant. 1.b. Favoring civil and political liberties, democratic reforms, and protection from arbitrary authority."

Is being open-minded and tolerant a bad thing now? I guess I missed the memo on that one.

"You've just gotta go ahead and change the captain of your brainship, because he's drunk at the wheel."

NEUTRINOLAD

Monday, November 1, 2004 12:15 PM

Quote:
I listen to Sean Hannity every day. He has shown me the truth about Democrats. They are like "Trained monkeys, without the training".

Please reply to me. I would like to educate you about the wickedness of your liberal ways.

Fair disclosure: I do not support the Democrats.

But, CobbofCanton,
Doesn't it bother you that the Founding Fathers were the liberals of all liberals? And now that word is denigrated Orwell's 1984 style?
Doesn't it bother you that Sean Hannity and his fellow travelers lie so transparently and so frequently?
Some of the time I think that it's not that they lie that offends me so, it's that they lie so poorly.

War On Poverty
War On Drugs
War On Terrorism

All idiocy of the worst sort.
And all based on the same principle.

Fear is the mind killer.
Fear is the little death that brings all obliteration...

Learn the mantra and never allow another party to use fear against you ever again.
I know what you want to believe. It is the same thing I want to believe. It is contrary to fact. Swallow your pride and face the world unadorned by fantasy.

Eschew belief for knowledge and never again allow any party to use your emotion against you.

Or continue down this path, keep your comfortable fantasy and you, and your offspring, and theirs, will continue to suffer the consequences in perpetuity.

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, November 5, 2004 5:57 AM

So long Kerry, for a short while you put the hat on GW

however there was no victory

and now the Bushes and VP Cheney have the whitehouse

COBBOFCANTON

Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:40 PM

This is for MohrStoutBeard
Are you going to keep saying that. Come on. Come up with something else. Anyway, You can wait another four years before worrying about John Kerry again.

Hah

Sean Parish A.K.A. CobbofCanton

COBBOFCANTON

Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:45 PM

This is for NeutrinoLad

I'm glad you kept your cool in this response.

Everyone else goes crazy because I'm a Bush supporter.

All I've got to say is, You guys are outnumbered. As you can tell from the election.

Sean Parish A.K.A. CobbofCanton

COBBOFCANTON

Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:50 PM

Shut up and watch the news

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, March 16, 2023 4:54 PM

What happened the true Democrats, are they now Libertarian?

When did these Nu-Left and Neo-Democrat anti-Liberal become a cult??

Stacey Abrams joins group that wants to ban gas stoves, re-wiring America's brain as if Antifa and BLM and Marxist rioters destroying multiple cities wasn't stupid enough

Joss worships this woman's ass

https://nypost.com/2023/03/14/stacey-abrams-takes-new-job-at-environme
ntal-group-pushing-for-gas-stove-ban/