Joss Parties for Kerry

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AMNESIACK

Monday, October 25, 2004 3:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by waspfan:
I just believe that Stars should not do this. I am a supporter of the president (not 14) and a huge Josh fan.

As for Josh doing this, it is greatly disappointing to me.

Celebrities have the right to express themselves however they want, just like you have the right to not even know the correct name of someone you're supposedly a big fan of.

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My backpack's got jets.

GHOULMAN

Monday, October 25, 2004 1:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Actually, I think Hero is referring to a voter registration fraud case in Ohio. A woman volunteered (or was recruited, not sure which) with the NAACP to register voters and then turned around and sub-contracted. She was paying her sub-contractor with crack cocaine. SNIP!
So ease off the accelerator, Ghoulman.

Oh man. I have to apologize to HERO?

I'm sorry HERO, I'm wrong.

Please understand - that language is precisely the sort of "code" racists use. Especially the campaign people in the Bush camp and White Supremacists, they always refer to others as drug soaked sub-humans.

Ghoulman

HERO

Monday, October 25, 2004 4:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ghoulman:

Oh man. I have to apologize to HERO?

I'm sorry HERO, I'm wrong.

Yes, yes you are. Wrong about so much.

Quote:

Please understand - that language is precisely the sort of "code" racists use. Especially the campaign people in the Bush camp and White Supremacists, they always refer to others as drug soaked sub-humans.

I understand all to well. All I said was that in Ohio the Democrats were using crack for currency.

I note you responded by calling me a racist and using a derogatory racist term "cracker". Thats just another word for nig##r in my book. Maybe you should throw around WOP or Wetback or Chink, since you can't be sure what I really am.

You suggest the fault here lies with the Bush Campaign and the white supremicists. I don't see either handing out crack for votes in Ohio. That distiction lies with the National Organization for the Advancement of Colored People.

I acknowledge the problems the Right wing needs to address in regards to race relations. But at least the racists on the right are ostracized. The left embraces racism as a means to keep power. Much of their power comes from the continued suppression of African Americans, so they not only discourage progress, they take advantage of the circumstances they help to foster and then claim the high ground on Sunday mornings and election days. Its a disgusting diservice to those they are claiming to represent.

So yes, you are wrong. More wrong then you are willing to admit.

H

GHOULMAN

Monday, October 25, 2004 7:09 PM

^^^ oh man, he's lovin' this.

SOUPCATCHER

Monday, October 25, 2004 8:34 PM

Hero, it's NAACP, not NOACP, and there is no evidence that using crack to pay for registration was known/ordered/condoned by that group. It's like blaming a corporation for the actions taken by a temp in hiring another person to do their work for them. So I think you stretched the truth on that one. For more details on the story (as well as a picture of the idiot who engaged in the fraud) here is a link: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041019/NEWS09/
410190343/-1/NEWS
I was also off on my numbers: he submitted more than a hundred, not the hundreds that I stated. The policies in place to catch this type of voter fraud worked (although it is problematic that they were every turned in in the first place - someone fell down on the job there).

I don't envy those who are living in contested states. I get lots of political junk mail and daily recorded phone messages and my state has been out of play for the entire campaign. I can't imagine what it must be like to live where both campaigns are investing tremendous resources. Things look nasty in Ohio.

For example, a very small scale printing error led to one candidate being left off absentee ballots (only two ballots that actually reached voters but, as the article states, this just feeds paranoia):
http://www.cincypost.com/2004/10/18/absen101804.html

There are complaints concerning absentee ballots mailed out in Cuyahoga County and a potential for people to vote for a different candidate then they attended (once again, this looks like a case of people not reading instructions and getting confused):
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OHIO_VOTING?SITE=OHCOD&SECTION=
HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

A break in occurred at the Lucas County campaign headquarters and computers were stolen that contained campaign related information (it sounds like one of the people at the headquarters unintentionally disabled the motion alarm through stupidity so the break in was not immediately detected):
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041013/NEWS03/
410130378

Voters in Franklin County got phone calls claiming to be from the local board of elections (a lie) telling them that the polling sites had been changed:
http://www.nbc4i.com/politics/3843020/detail.html
Alert people called the board to verify and this is how the story broke.

Both of the campaigns are trying to get thousands of recruits stationed inside polling places to question people's eligibility to vote (this would be in addition to the volunteers who are there to do this job anyway. This would not be legal in my state - we have a 100 foot no-harassment zone around polling places):
http://tinyurl.com/3jsu2

People who resigned from a South Dakota campaign after voting fraud allegations (ongoing investigation - some indictments) have joined the Ohio campaign:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/9927899.htm
(Sorry, that link required registration ).

So good luck, Hero. And all those others living in swing states. The final days of nastiness are here.

* big thanks to the dKosopedia on voting fraud allegations broken down by state found at dailyKos.

There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.

EMBERS

Monday, October 25, 2004 9:19 PM

SoupCatcher: thanks for articles...
in my own home town we had a closely contested Mayoral race where the standing Mayor counted several hundred highly questionable nursing home ballots that were filled out by the staff on behalf of the patients...
and many opponets to the Mayor were forced to drive home to get their passports to 'prove' they were really citizens even tho they were on the registered voters list and had voted before!

But I'm surprised that no one on this thread seems to care at all about Joss...
I understood that there were a lot of house parties for the High Stakes fundraiser held by Browncoats and I was hoping to hear some reports of experiences...

SOUPCATCHER

Monday, October 25, 2004 9:36 PM

Sorry for the thread hijacking, Embers. I decided to jump in on a comment Ghoulman made that I felt was unfortunate and then it spiraled out of control from there (I probably should've just started another thread on voting irregularities).

I really enjoyed your description of what happened at the High Stakes event you attended and I look forward to what others have to post.

There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL

Monday, October 25, 2004 10:18 PM

I was at the LA party - it was amazing! There were only about 200 people there, and a dozen or so Whedonverse actors, so I got to talk to each one for a few minutes!

My girlfriend and I talked to Nathan the most, and he was incredibly nice and funny. We had someone take our picture with him, and then he took the camera to see the picture. He didn't like it, so he held the camera out in front of the three of us and retook it himself!

Can anyone please tell me how to post pictures here, so I can share it?

"I like smackin' 'em!" - Jayne Cobb

DAIKATH

Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by spikeandjezebel:
Can anyone please tell me how to post pictures here, so I can share it?

Go to the blue sun room and under the list of the little screencap on the upper left choose 'Add Image'.

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL

Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:50 AM

Thanks! I'll do so right now!

"I like smackin' 'em!" - Jayne Cobb

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