The Blue Beetle Failure Thread

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WHOZIT

Saturday, August 19, 2023 4:55 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
They admit the Budget to Flash was something like 300 Million meaning its box office failure was even worse than expected

Are Major film studios failing in the USA, maybe and maybe not some are foreign owned like 'Sony'

the brands like Sony do have flops but mostly avoid USA's new SJW Bolsevik politcial messages
Disney has flops and Marvel has flops, Disney own Marvel
However a new Spider-Man made money
Disney probably had huge theme park loss with Covid
Warner Bros had a hit with 'Barbie' but a lot of flops
MGM is dead mostly, it still has ownership of Bond brand but was bought by Sony
Universal Pictures... NBCUniversal they don't make as many films any more but they own the Despicable Me brand, movie rights for Mario and did make 'Oppenheimer'
Paramount Pictures might have bounced back with Top Gun Maverick and a Box office $1.496 billion

It's hard to know when the current box office run started and died I think it began with super blockbusters back in 1993, 1995, 1996 - then maybe started to die 2014, 2015 the Superhero thing over-saturated everything, Covid damaged sales and the SJW islamic Homosexual Gay Lesbian Political messages put into every big box office movie might have finally crushed it all.

Some movies can make box office money but its going to continue with failures

Small Indie movies are now Most Profitable Movies, more interesting and pull far mroe cash back Based on Return on Investment
A lot of them if smart might return to the Low Budget Comedy, Scifi or Horror Genre, Halloween, Mad Max, Young Frankenstein, El Mariachi, Rain Man, Easy Rider, Open Water, Clerks, overseas or Japanese genre like the Ringu, Eraserhead , Paranormal Activity etc

The simple answer is...the fan base is gone. Why should I spent my hard earned $ to see the same story BUT, the hero is just wearing a different suit. 'The Blue Cockroach' will not save the DCU or the movie industry, it's just the same old thing, only blue.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, August 19, 2023 7:59 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
They admit the Budget to Flash was something like 300 Million meaning its box office failure was even worse than expected

Do you have a link to "they"? If it turns out The Flash cost $100 Million more than was originally stated, I've got a whole lot of lists to update, and that also means that going into Blue Beetle, Barbie has now only made enough money to give Warner Bros. a surplus of $150 Million with the 2.0x Rule of Thumb to as low as -$120 Million deficit after covering for the last 3 flops and the shelved Batwoman movie.

There's enough gas left in Barbie's tank to cover another $120 Million worth of possible Flash losses, but probably not enough to cover that AND Blue Beetle.

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It's hard to know when the current box office run started and died I think it began with super blockbusters back in 1993, 1995, 1996 - then maybe started to die 2014, 2015 the Superhero thing over-saturated everything, Covid damaged sales and the SJW islamic Homosexual Gay Lesbian Political messages put into every big box office movie might have finally crushed it all.

The 90's sounds like a good start. Probably around the time of Terminator 2. I don't think it actually started dying until after Avengers: Endgame came out though. Though it's true that Covid happened shortly after, I don't blame it on Covid... at least not directly.

The "Message" had been around since at least 2014-2015, but outside of just a small amount of us, it was being consumed almost unnoticed by everyday folk. I think parents being home with their kids for all that time and catching wind of what their "teachers" were teaching them opened up a lot of eyes about a lot of things. And once your eyes are opened you look around and see it everywhere and wonder how you never noticed it before.

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Small Indie movies are now Most Profitable Movies, more interesting and pull far mroe cash back Based on Return on Investment
A lot of them if smart might return to the Low Budget Comedy, Scifi or Horror Genre, Halloween, Mad Max, Young Frankenstein, El Mariachi, Rain Man, Easy Rider, Open Water, Clerks, overseas or Japanese genre like the Ringu, Eraserhead , Paranormal Activity etc

That's what I've been saying for a long time now. I finally got around to making lists that actually prove this is undoubtedly the case, and once 2023 is over and a month or two into 2024 when all the movies released in 2023 are out of the theaters I'm going to be able to present a lot of data that nobody really has ever considered before.

It's easy for a guy like MatPat to come out with his Film Theory video last week about Disney dying, all the way in Mid-August of 2023 when it was safe to do it. Nobody can deny that's a fact anymore. He's not getting hated on for that video. He doesn't even have to worry about YouTube de-monetizing him for it. He's always been one of the semi-charmed channels that didn't get negatively impacted by the numerous YouTube ad-pocalypse events over the years and hardly has to do any of his own advertising with his large viewer base.

But you saw how much pushback Second used to give me here about it and all the insults when I'd constantly point out the dark path that Disney was headed down. Clownfish TV has said the same thing about MatPat's video. They used to work for Disney and have been chronicling the fall of the company for years now and have been called all the regular names for it. "Alt-Right", "Extremists", "Nazis", etc.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, August 19, 2023 8:23 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:
The simple answer is...the fan base is gone. Why should I spent my hard earned $ to see the same story BUT, the hero is just wearing a different suit. 'The Blue Cockroach' will not save the DCU or the movie industry, it's just the same old thing, only blue.

There's two parts to that answer, really...

The Normies are experiencing the same Superhero burnout that everybody experienced at some point with Westerns and with Musicals before that. After a couple of them are successful, too many of them get made leading to oversaturation and the quality just keeps falling down.

And they've destroyed the built-in fan base by not respecting the fans or the original work the entire time, so once the Normies turn away from it and move on to the next big thing, there's going to be no one left to care anymore.

End Game wasn't something you rush to. That's a slow burn. That's an event they could have teased for so much longer than they did. Not every movie had to be about a world-destroying event, but with those budgets they're forced to always make the next one seem even more important than the last.

Secret Invasion? That could have been the best story that Marvel Studios ever filmed instead of the lowest rated Marvel property ever released.

I'm glad that the Normies are finally rejecting the garbage-tier stories from garbage-tier writers and directors, acted mostly by garbage-tier actors.

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WHOZIT

Sunday, August 20, 2023 3:41 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
The simple answer is...the fan base is gone. Why should I spent my hard earned $ to see the same story BUT, the hero is just wearing a different suit. 'The Blue Cockroach' will not save the DCU or the movie industry, it's just the same old thing, only blue.

There's two parts to that answer, really...

The Normies are experiencing the same Superhero burnout that everybody experienced at some point with Westerns and with Musicals before that. After a couple of them are successful, too many of them get made leading to oversaturation and the quality just keeps falling down.

And they've destroyed the built-in fan base by not respecting the fans or the original work the entire time, so once the Normies turn away from it and move on to the next big thing, there's going to be no one left to care anymore.

End Game wasn't something you rush to. That's a slow burn. That's an event they could have teased for so much longer than they did. Not every movie had to be about a world-destroying event, but with those budgets they're forced to always make the next one seem even more important than the last.

Secret Invasion? That could have been the best story that Marvel Studios ever filmed instead of the lowest rated Marvel property ever released.

I'm glad that the Normies are finally rejecting the garbage-tier stories from garbage-tier writers and directors, acted mostly by garbage-tier actors.

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How you do anything is how you do everything.

OMG you're with the WGA!

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 20, 2023 6:10 AM

Yes. You've figured me out. I don't know what you pay your spies, but they all deserve a raise.

I am from the Women's Golf Association.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 20, 2023 11:44 AM

You're going to find a LOT of puff pieces about this one right now. OH... THE COPE!

It's THE superhero movie that LATINOS NEED TO SEE!!!!

Get fucked, morons. If there's one demographic that doesn't fall for any of the woke shit out there it's the American Hispanics.

Here's the real story, from Screen Rant:

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Blue Beetle's box office performance falls below expectations, earning an estimated $25-27 million in its opening weekend, lower than the anticipated $30 million.

Despite defeating Barbie at the box office, Blue Beetle's earnings are not impressive compared to the domination of the Barbie movie, which has already secured over $1 billion.

Blue Beetle is expected to perform worse than Shazam: Fury of the Gods, which earned approximately $30.1 million.

Remember... That $10 Million that WB projected for Friday night includes the $3.3 Million that it got on Thursday night previews, so it only actually got a projected $6.7 Million on Friday.

$8 to $8.5 Million for both Saturday and Sunday sounds about right.

If the international audience doesn't come out for this one, it's over before it even began.

Screen Rant also says this;

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Unfortunately, Blue Beetle was set up for failure. With James Gunn and Peter Safran preparing to reset the DC universe, Blue Beetle was left in a precarious position. Audiences came to the movie already aware that the DCU will be completely upended with Superman: Legacy, leaving little draw to watch a film set in a universe that will no longer be relevant. The Blue Beetle will be the first DCU character to appear in the new universe, but he lacks the draw that other well-known heroes may have, and many in the audience may not know about his relevance.

Well... Nobody knows for sure if this was the LAST movie in the old DCU or the FIRST movie in the new DCU. I don't believe that James Gunn or Peter Safran even knew that. And they certainly weren't going to tell you it was the last movie of the old DCU for that very reason if they did know. This movie began production before they even decided they were going to reboot the franchise, and I think they were going to just see how this one did before they made any decisions. There was no reason not to do that since this movie is completely isolated from any of the others.

As far as the audience factoring any of this into their decision to see Blue Beetle? Nah. If you asked everybody if they even knew Blue Beetle was a thing, half the people would ask you what Blue Beetle was. They don't even know this movie exists. Most of the rest of them don't care at at all.

Hell... I bet if you asked everybody if they knew that the DCU was getting rebooted, half of the people wouldn't have even known that was happening until you presented them with the question.

On The-Numbers, Blue Beetle never showed up on the "Most Anticipated Movies" list that includes Snow White and several other movies that aren't even coming out until 2024 and a bunch of flicks I've never even heard of before. It finally made the "Trending Movies" list today, but I would assume half of those clicks were people just finding out that this movie was even a thing when they saw it on the box office list today.

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WHOZIT

Sunday, August 20, 2023 8:05 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yes. You've figured me out. I don't know what you pay your spies, but they all deserve a raise.

I am from the Women's Golf Association.

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How you do anything is how you do everything.

You write very well

WHOZIT

Sunday, August 20, 2023 8:12 PM

'Blue Bug' will beat 'Barbie' this weekend...barely, it'll make around $25 mill. 'Indy 5' made $120,000 on Friday and is out of the top ten

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 20, 2023 8:16 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yes. You've figured me out. I don't know what you pay your spies, but they all deserve a raise.

I am from the Women's Golf Association.

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How you do anything is how you do everything.

You write very well

Thank you.

And I've never been on strike a day in my life. I don't even get paid.

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How you do anything is how you do everything.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 20, 2023 8:23 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Remember... That $10 Million that WB projected for Friday night includes the $3.3 Million that it got on Thursday night previews, so it only actually got a projected $6.7 Million on Friday.

Holy moley!

Even the "news" publications seem to be finding their integrity in the back-half of 2023. Maybe it's those fears of computer programs coming to take their jobs.

From Variety this morning:

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Debuting in 3,871 locations, the Ángel Manuel Soto-directed “Blue Beetle” earned $10 million on its opening day, a figure that includes $3.3 million from previews. It’s not a dazzling figure for the superhero entry, which had forecast a touchdown between $25 million and $33 million heading into the weekend. The film’s debut looks to fall behind that of this year’s earlier DC entry “Shazam! Fury of the Gods,” which debuted to $30.1 million before collapsing for a $57.6 million finish.

I've never once seen a review site admit to this before. It wasn't until JSF figured this out and pointed it out to me that I knew this was how Thursday Previews and Friday Box Office worked. Once he pointed it out to me it was totally obvious this was the case even though I'd never seen any confirmation in print at The-Numbers or anywhere else about it. I'd never even seen any of the YouTuber's who've made it their full-time jobs to hate on Hollywood ever bring it up.

Only 1 month ago they never would have said this. It was an easy way to bump up movies they wanted to see succeed on their first night, and they could just ignore it with movies they didn't want to see succeed.

Now the secret is out. Look for your favorite Anti-Hollywood YouTuber's to start bringing that up when they celebrate the fall of another woke flick.

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