Elections; 2024
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When Democrats ... or Republicans ... seriously start describing to me HOW they intend to reach a goal, using testable and practical steps (and BTW not relying on 'magical thinking' and propaganda like the Laffer curve or "Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country') then I know they're serious about it.
"Medicare for all"? Great! How will it be funded? How will costs be controlled? How can competition be re-introduced into the healthcare system? How will it fold in the millions of currently unwell, addicted, homeless and indigent?
Until someone starts hammering out the "how tos" it's all just election promises.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
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Quote:It has already been worked out by Democrats, but every solution is opposed by Republicans, who will fight to the death in order to make sure nothing is passed in Congress.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
When Democrats ... or Republicans ... seriously start describing to me HOW they intend to reach a goal, using testable and practical steps (and BTW not relying on 'magical thinking' and propaganda like the Laffer curve or "Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country') then I know they're serious about it.
"Medicare for all"? Great! How will it be funded? How will costs be controlled? How can competition be re-introduced into the healthcare system? How will it fold in the millions of currently unwell, addicted, homeless and indigent?
Until someone starts hammering out the "how tos" it's all just election promises.
Until Democrats understand viscerally that Republicans would rather die than allow Medicare for All, the program is doomed to be talked about but never passed into law. Many different Republicans in Congress must either die or not be reelected for this program to become a reality.
Sadly, Democrats keep believing they can persuade Republican Congressmen who will never change their minds to become enlightened. It won't happen. Those Republicans must leave Congress, either dead or alive. Slavery could never be made illegal until a large number of stubborn fools in Congress were violently forced out of the room. The same is even more true for the passage of a Medicare for All bill.
How would Medicare for all be funded?
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+would+medicare+for+all+be+funded
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Yup.
Meanwhile, in reality...
The FDA just said that the active ingredient in Benedryl and many other antihistamines and decongestants does not work and it's theorized that all of these over-the-counter drugs will be pulled from store shelves right before cold and flu season.
Everybody better run out and get their 18th booster shot.
Tell me again that our government isn't trying to actively kill everybody.
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Quote:The story is that the panel’s vote reflects damning evidence provided by the FDA that found that when phenylephrine is taken orally, only a very small amount of the drug actually reaches the nose to relieve congestion.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yup.
Meanwhile, in reality...
The FDA just said that the active ingredient in Benedryl and many other antihistamines and decongestants does not work and it's theorized that all of these over-the-counter drugs will be pulled from store shelves right before cold and flu season.
Everybody better run out and get their 18th booster shot.
Tell me again that our government isn't trying to actively kill everybody.
The moral: buy the spray rather than the pills. The panel is not questioning the effectiveness of nasal spray phenylephrine, which is still thought to provide temporary relief from congestion.
But 6ixStringJack, being a complete asshole, does NOT understand something even that simple. That is why something complex, Medicare for All, will be fought to the death by Republicans. Republicans are born complete assholes about everything, not just politics.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-panel-says-common-count
er-decongestant-phneylephrine-doesnt-work-rcna104424
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Indictments? Who cares? Donald Trump backers say they don't trust government anyway
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/09/15/indictments-so
-what-trump-backers-dont-trust-the-system-anyway/70784897007/
WASHINGTON -Never mind the indictments in four separate criminal cases - Donald Trump has persuaded millions of Republicans that prosecutors are only playing politics, and he has actually increased his lead in the GOP presidential race.
And it has been a pretty easy sell: Most supporters of the former president never liked the government anyway
Distrust of institutions - from Congress to the media to the legal system - fueled Trump's journey to the presidency; nowadays, disdain for "the establishment" is sustaining his comeback bid as he faces up to four criminal trials on charges that would have destroyed previous candidates, according to a variety of Trump supporters and political analysts.
Trump voters such as Janet Cozzone, a retiree who lives in Trenton, Florida, said the businessman-turned-presidential-candidate "opened the eyes" of people who once had faith in public officials to do the right thing.
"Donald Trump taught us that we may be great, but we are not as great as we think we are," she said.
'I'm being indicted for you'
Since the start of his political career, and throughout a tumultuous presidency that included two impeachments, Trump has cast the various investigations into his conduct as attacks on his political supporters and their movement.
"I'm being indicted for you," Trump has told his followers, appealing to people who have long been suspicious of what he calls "the swamp" of government.
Tobias Hernandez, 32, a trucking company manager from Warwick, Rhode Island, said Trump "might be on to something" when he says that too many officials are only out for themselves - and that sometimes includes Trump himself, he added.
"I support the movement, but I don't really support him personally," Hernandez said. "I don't know what his true intentions are."
'Getting burned'
Other Republicans said that too many Trump supporters are fooling themselves and that the former president is only looking to protect himself. They also said Trump's legal problems will hurt him with independents voters who could decide the 2024 general election.
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who has mocked Trump's claim of being "indicted for you," noted this week that Russian President Vladimir Putin - a dictator who is considered an enemy of the U.S. - echoed his claim that a rotten system is targeting an ex-president.
"Trump is under indictment because of his conduct," Christie said on the social media platform X, formerly Twitter "He played with fire and is getting burned."
The former president was expected to spotlight his message Friday with two speeches in Washington, D.C. One is to the organization Concerned Women for America, and the other is at a "Pray Vote Stand Summit."
'It's a sham'
Trump faces two legal cases involving alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election, another one involving obstruction of justice and hiding classified documents, and another involving hush money payments - yet many of his supporters are sticking with him out of distrust of the accusers.
Jacob A. Fokken, 28, an automotive repairman from Las Vegas, said the government wants only to "help the people they want" and go after opponents like Trump.
"You can say what you want against anybody without any proof," he said.
As for the system itself, he said: "It's a sham."
Many Republicans seem to agree. The Real Clear Politics average of national polls gives Trump more than 56% of the Republican vote. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is far behind at 13%.
Local polls also give Trump huge leads in early contest states like Iowa and New Hampshire.
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Quote:Trump was one of two presidents who left office with fewer jobs in the U.S. than when they began.
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“One was President Hoover, and the other was Donald Hoover Trump,” Biden said to laughter. “My predecessor promised to be the greatest job president in history. Well, it didn’t really work out that way. He lost 2 million jobs over the course of his presidency.”
According to Fortune in January 2021, Trump would “become the first post–World War II president to see employment fall during his presidency. It last occurred when Herbert Hoover left office in 1933 amid the early years of the Great Depression.”
Citing Labor Department figures, The Washington Post put the tally at 3 million lost jobs on Trump’s watch.
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:The young conservatives trying to make eugenics respectable again
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Adam Serwer writes:
The pseudoscience of eugenics is making a comeback on the American right. In August, the HuffPost reporter Christopher Mathias unmasked the Substack writer and academic Richard Hanania as “Richard Hoste,” a pseudonym under which Hanania blogged for white-supremacist websites about the evils of “race mixing,” advocated for the sterilization of people with a “low IQ” and for the deportation of all “post-1965 non-White migrants from Latin America,” and declared that “women’s liberation = the end of human civilization.” He also wrote a tribute to Sarah Palin in 2009, gushing that her candidacy had made the “ugly, secular and barren White self-hating and Jewish elite absolutely mad.” (There’s a lot going on there.)
“White nationalism,” Hanania wrote as “Hoste,” is “the only hope that part of what made the American nation great will survive somewhere.”
Two days after Mathias’s story, Hanania responded, stating, “Over a decade ago I held many beliefs that, as my current writing makes clear, I now find repulsive.” He rejected Mathias’s characterization of his “creepy obsession with so-called race science” as “dishonest,” insisting that he does not believe that Black people are “inherently more prone to violent crime” than white people.
People can and do change, even those with extreme views like these, but there’s not much evidence that happened here. As the writer Jonathan Katz notes, Hanania recently wrote, “These people are animals, whether they’re harassing people in subways or walking around in suits,” in an angry tweet about the Black district attorney of Manhattan indicting a white man who strangled a homeless Black man on the subway.
It is understandable that Hanania prefers to present himself as a mainstream, respectable intellectual than as a creep interested in the attractiveness of cartoon characters and the genitalia of the Founding Fathers. The eagerness of some of his allies to accept his rather superficial apology—Katz notes that Substack CEO Chris Best praised him for “an honest post on a difficult subject”—is a little more puzzling. As Mathias writes, Hanania’s genetic determinism appears to be popular among wealthy Silicon Valley types, several of whom have blurbed his forthcoming book arguing that civil-rights laws should be dismantled.
Buried in Hanania’s statement responding to Mathias’s reporting is a crucial tell about his ideological project, and why his response is formatted like an apology even though it is not one. “The reason I’m the target of a cancellation effort is because left-wing journalists dislike anyone acknowledging statistical differences between races,” Hanania wrote.
As Hanania knows perfectly well, “acknowledging statistical differences between races” is not a controversial idea on the left. In fact, it’s central to the egalitarianism he opposes. He has elsewhere defined wokeness in part as the idea that “any disparities in outcomes favoring whites over non-whites or men over women are caused by discrimination.” The implication that his critics rightfully find abhorrent is that those statistical differences are biologically determined by race and therefore reflect an inferiority that is inherent and immutable to state interventions. Being coy about this, instead framing the conflict as a liberal reluctance to acknowledge uncomfortable facts, suggests that his views haven’t changed much at all, and that his vague repudiation of them is little more than an attempt to preserve the mainstream credibility he’s accumulated since his days railing against “race mixing” pseudonymously.
One explanation for the resurgence of scientific racism — what the psychologist Andrew S. Winston defines as the use of data to promote the idea of an “enduring racial hierarchy” — is that some very rich peopl
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump was one of two presidents who left office with fewer jobs in the U.S. than when they began.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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“One was President Hoover, and the other was Donald Hoover Trump,” Biden said to laughter. “My predecessor promised to be the greatest job president in history. Well, it didn’t really work out that way. He lost 2 million jobs over the course of his presidency.”
According to Fortune in January 2021, Trump would “become the first post–World War II president to see employment fall during his presidency. It last occurred when Herbert Hoover left office in 1933 amid the early years of the Great Depression.”
Citing Labor Department figures, The Washington Post put the tally at 3 million lost jobs on Trump’s watch.
You know that's fake news.
Did you already forget about the Democrat-China released bioweapon and the two weeks to slow the curve that turned into 2.5 years of Democrat enforced misery?
You guys did that.
And on the flip side, Joe* didn't make any jobs. People were finally allowed to go back to work.
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Originally posted by second:
Race is a sociopolitical category, not a biological one. There is no genetic support for the idea that humans are divided into distinct races with immutable traits shared by others who have the same skin color.
This sentence debunks any point that was failed to be made here.
Race is real. Gender is real.
Whenever you want to leave FantasyLand and rejoin the rest of us in reality for discussion, we'll be waiting here for you.
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