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Friday, September 8, 2023 7:34 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


Get fucked, ya goon.

Democrats are done.


Where's Ted? He isn't posting shit because he knows that Democrats are fucked.


Warnings about you were issued, 6ix: “Civility and respect in political discourse, whether in an election year or otherwise, are essential.” (For Trumptards and Trump that means your lack of middle-class values [e.g. cheating on taxes or wife or customers or employees or loans or work or . . .] is the reason why your lives are melodramatic and chaotic, repeatedly veering toward dysfunction and even total breakdown.)

13 presidential libraries issue rare joint warning about U.S. democracy | September 7, 2023

The Associated Press reports:

Concern for U.S. democracy amid deep national polarization has prompted the entities supporting 13 presidential libraries dating back to Herbert Hoover to call for a recommitment to the country’s bedrock principles, including the rule of law and respecting a diversity of beliefs.

The statement released Thursday, the first time the libraries have joined to make such a public declaration, said Americans have a strong interest in supporting democratic movements and human rights around the world because “free societies elsewhere contribute to our own security and prosperity here at home.”

“But that interest,” it said, “is undermined when others see our own house in disarray.”

The joint message from presidential centers, foundations and institutes emphasized the need for compassion, tolerance and pluralism while urging Americans to respect democratic institutions and uphold secure and accessible elections.

The statement noted that “debate and disagreement” are central to democracy but also alluded to the coarsening of dialogue in the public arena during an era when officials and their families are receiving death threats.

“Civility and respect in political discourse, whether in an election year or otherwise, are essential,” it said.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/presidential-centers-warning_n_64f9bb3d
e4b04a65c3cc1bfa


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, September 8, 2023 8:29 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Concern for U.S. democracy amid deep national polarization has prompted the entities supporting 13 presidential libraries dating back to Herbert Hoover to call for a recommitment to the country’s bedrock principles, including the rule of law and respecting a diversity of beliefs.



Fuck you.

Your hive mind has no diversity of beliefs.

You are about to be destroyed.


Consider that YOUR fucking warning.

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Friday, September 8, 2023 9:14 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Uh-Oh, Spaghetti-O...

CNN just put out a poll that has Trump up +1.

Biden went from +2.0 in the aggregate before the last sham Trump arrest to only +0.4 today.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-ele
ction-trump-vs-biden-7383.html




Woke trash Salon.com puts this article out yesterday...

The antidote to "Democratic panic syndrome": Putting Joe Biden's poll numbers in perspective

14 months before an election, nobody should be losing any sleep over a poll

https://www.salon.com/2023/09/06/the-antidote-to-democratic-panic-synd
rome-putting-joe-bidens-poll-numbers-in-perspective
/


Oh... the COPE!


Woke trash Vox.com puts this article out today...

Will I just keep spending more and more money forever?

How to cope with both inflation and lifestyle creep.

https://www.vox.com/even-better/23842804/inflation-lifestyle-creep-adv
ice-budgeting-money


I thought you motherfuckers were still telling everyone that inflation under Biden* was a myth.

FUCK YOU VOX.

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Oh... and when's the last time that CNN put a poll that had Trump above Biden?

NEVER. The answer is NEVER.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_ele
ction_trump_vs_biden-6247.html


2022:
10/23 - 10/26 - Biden +12
10/1 - 10/4 - Biden +15
8/28 - 9/1 - Biden +8
8/12 - 8/15 - Biden +4
6/2 - 6/5 - Biden +14
5/7 - 5/10 - Biden +5
4/3 - 4/6 - Biden +11
3/4 - 3/7 - Biden +10
1/16 - 1/19 - Biden +9

2021:
12/12 - 12/15 - Biden +5
10/17 - 10/20 - Biden +10
4/25 - 4/29 - Biden +6
1/14 - 1/18 - Biden +17


How about Hillary? How many times did CNN say that Trump was above Hillary?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_ele
ction_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html#polls


2016:
10/20 - 10/23 - Clinton +6
9/28 - 10/2 - Clinton +6
9/1 - 9/4 - Trump +1
7/29 - 7/31 - Clinton +9
7/22 - 7/24 - Trump +3
7/13 - 7/16 - Clinton +7
6/16 - 6/19 - Clinton +5
4/28 - 5/1 - Clinton +13
3/17 - 3/20 - Clinton +12
2/24 - 2/27 - Clinton +8
12/17 - 12/21 - Clinton +2

2015:
11/27 - 12/1 - Clinton +3
10/14 - 10/17 - Clinton +5
9/4 - 9/8 - Tie
8/13 - 8/16 - Clinton +6
7/22 - 7/25 - Clinton +16
6/26 - 6/28 - Clinton +24


2 times out of 17 polls. The highest they ever put Trump was +3, while 12 of the polls were higher than that for Clinton, 4 of the polls calling Clinton the winner were in double digits, and the highest one being +24 for Clinton.

And we all know how that turned out.

Even when Biden* "won" in 2020, not only did he do it by half of what the polling aggregate said he was going to win by, but he was SIGNIFICANTLY lower than any CNN polls were predicting. Especially those last two that had Biden* up by 12 and 15 points.


Democrats are fucked.

That's why Ted isn't saying shit in here right now. All that celebrating, spewing dumb shit all over the boards and updating all of his threads to say "I told you so Jack" are being shoved right up his ass.



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Friday, September 8, 2023 6:17 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Fuck you.

Your hive mind has no diversity of beliefs.

You are about to be destroyed.


Consider that YOUR fucking warning.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Democrats are fucked.

That's why Ted isn't saying shit in here right now. All that celebrating, spewing dumb shit all over the boards and updating all of his threads to say "I told you so Jack" are being shoved right up his ass.

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If you were alone, 6ix, I would be shocked by your behavior but since EVERY TRUMPTARD I know acts the same way, even Trump, this is "normal" behavior for a pack of Trumptards. It is also the reason why the lives of Trumptards are full of melodrama, chaos and the occasional mental breakdown. Life is tough for Trumptards but they bring trouble and woe down upon themselves.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, September 8, 2023 7:45 PM

SECOND, YOU are permanently mentally broken down. We can tell from the lies, threats, and self-contradictory bullshit you spew every time you post. And if you have a moral compass, it only points in one direction: hate.

The way you assure yourself that you're not a bag of loose nuts and bolts is bc you have MONEY, and you tell yourself that it's so because you're superior being, instead of recognzing that it was a stroke of good luck. It's a common mental failing among the wealthy, and you demonstrate it in spades with every post, too..

Unless, of course, you're lying about that as well.



And now, back to our regularly scheduled topic....



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Friday, September 8, 2023 7:47 PM

A thought about our former president, our laws, and our future

Dear Republicans,

I woke up this morning to read a number of Republican elected representatives assigning themselves the role of judge and jury in the Trump espionage case. Why do I write "judge and jury"? Because to declare the man not guilty is to take the place of the judicial branch.

It's one thing when an average citizen does this. We can all have our opinions. But it's quite another when a senator or a representative makes such a claim. The basis of our Constitution is the separation of powers. When elected representatives take the place of judges and juries, they violate that spirit. They tell citizens that the laws they make are in fact meaningless.

I read also of Republicans who suddenly talk about unequal treatment of Americans in our judicial system. Yes, that is a problem, one recognized by the millions of people who don't have the money to fund your campaigns or your lobbyists, or to fund teams of lawyers like Trump's. It's a problem for all of the typical Americans who see that people like Trump get off over and over again. Trump says that he is a wealthy man. To say that a wealthy man is above the law is making the real problem worse.

I read Republican politicians claim that a former president cannot be tried. If that were true, then every wealthy criminal would run for office, seeking their lifelong get-out-of-jail card. If that were true, then presidents in office and out of office would be incentivized to commit crimes. If that were true, Americans would quickly lose all confidence in the office of the presidency.

The job of the executive is to enforce the law. Putting the executive above the law makes nonsense of the Constitution. Does trying a former president make us a banana republic? No, not doing so makes us a banana republic, or really something worse. The moment we say that one person is above the law, we no longer have the rule of law. The moment we no longer have the rule of law, we cease to exist as any kind of republic.

In other republics with the rule of law (recent examples are France and Italy) former heads of state or government are in fact tried, and are sometimes, after due process, found guilty and sentenced. It happens and it has to happen. Citizens lose their trust otherwise. To say that it does not happen is simply wrong.

In our country, citizens play some interesting roles in the judicial branch. For example, they serve on grand juries, such as the one that issued the indictment of Trump on espionage and other charges. This is a process, one to be respected, especially by elected representatives.

None of this is political advice. These are just the words of a citizen who cares about the country. The political advice, however, would be this: if you commit yourself now to an anti-constitutional position, you will have a hard time extracting yourself later. Leaders come and go. A republic endures.

Respectfully

Timothy Snyder

TS 9 June 2023

https://snyder.substack.com/p/dear-republicans

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, September 8, 2023 8:37 PM

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originally posted by second:
A thought about our former president, our laws, and our future

Dear Republicans,

I woke up this morning to read a number of Republican elected representatives assigning themselves the role of judge and jury in the Trump espionage case. Why do I write "judge and jury"? Because to declare the man not guilty is to take the place of the judicial branch.

Not giulty until proven otherwise. Don't you know how US law works?

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It's one thing when an average citizen does this.
Well, the average citizen SHOULD do this. Of course, they should also be open to evidence.

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We can all have our opinions. But it's quite another when a senator or a representative makes such a claim. The basis of our Constitution is the separation of powers. When elected representatives take the place of judges and juries, they violate that spirit. They tell citizens that the laws they make are in fact meaningless.
Again, not guilty until proven otherwise. Not RUMORED otherwise. Not OPINED otherwise. Not ASSUMED otherwise. PROVEN otherwise in a court of law, on the basis of the truth, and the whole truth. That hasn't happened yet. If THAT doesn't happen then the law is indded meaningless.

But you want us to be outraged over bullshit.

Quote:

I read also of Republicans who suddenly talk about unequal treatment of Americans in our judicial system. Yes, that is a problem, one recognized by the millions of people who don't have the money to fund your campaigns or your lobbyists, or to fund teams of lawyers like Trump's.
or OJ. Or who have the weight of the media and the FIB, and the establishment covering for them like Biden* and Hillary.

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It's a problem for all of the typical Americans who see that people like Trump get off over and over again.
Wow, speaking of reaching a verdict BEFORE the trial! Trump has NOT "gotten off". He was thoroughly investigated on totally fabricated charges and found not to be involved. The IRS has his tax returns. And he has not been tried on any of the pending charges, so far. This asshole is assuming that Trump is guilty, and he wants you to assume it too, using emotive faux outrage.

Now, if you want to talk about people who have never been credibly investigated BUT SHOULD be, let's start crawling up Biden's and Hillary's (and Pelosi's and McConnell's) asses.

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Trump says that he is a wealthy man. To say that a wealthy man is above the law is making the real problem worse.
Nobody is saying that but you. And you want us to believe that is true, too, and be outraged over a non-event.
Sheesh!

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I read Republican politicians claim that a former president cannot be tried.
It depends on for what. If it has to do with documents, top secret or otherwise, they are the President's documents to do with as they wish. Many former Presidents have retained "Top Secret" documents and never turned them over to the National Archives, or anyone. Including Bill Clinton
If it criminalizes free speech, or challenging elections then that would violate his Constitutional rights. One must draw lines between Constitutionall preocted behavior and criminal behavior.

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If that were true,
Yes, if you're not misrpresenting what was said

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then every wealthy criminal would run for office, seeking their lifelong get-out-of-jail card. If that were true, then presidents in office and out of office would be incentivized to commit crimes. If that were true, Americans would quickly lose all confidence in the office of the presidency.
Well, wealthy people who are most likey criminals HAVE run for office and won. Bill Clinton, for example, guilty of being a sexual predator.

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The job of the executive is to enforce the law.
No, that is the job of law enforcement. This guy is confused. And we hope law enforcement is carried out as "blin

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Friday, September 8, 2023 9:58 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Fuck you.

Your hive mind has no diversity of beliefs.

You are about to be destroyed.


Consider that YOUR fucking warning.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Democrats are fucked.

That's why Ted isn't saying shit in here right now. All that celebrating, spewing dumb shit all over the boards and updating all of his threads to say "I told you so Jack" are being shoved right up his ass.

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How you do anything is how you do everything.

If you were alone, 6ix, I would be shocked by your behavior... yada, yada, yada...



Uh huh.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65116

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Friday, September 8, 2023 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

originally posted by second:
A thought about our former president, our laws, and our future

Dear Republicans,

I woke up this morning to read a number of Republican elected representatives assigning themselves the role of judge and jury in the Trump espionage case. Why do I write "judge and jury"? Because to declare the man not guilty is to take the place of the judicial branch.

Not giulty until proven otherwise. Don't you know how US law works?

Quote:

It's one thing when an average citizen does this.
Well, the average citizen SHOULD do this. Of course, they should also be open to evidence.

Quote:

We can all have our opinions. But it's quite another when a senator or a representative makes such a claim. The basis of our Constitution is the separation of powers. When elected representatives take the place of judges and juries, they violate that spirit. They tell citizens that the laws they make are in fact meaningless.
Again, not guilty until proven otherwise. Not RUMORED otherwise. Not OPINED otherwise. Not ASSUMED otherwise. PROVEN otherwise in a court of law, on the basis of the truth, and the whole truth. That hasn't happened yet. If THAT doesn't happen then the law is indded meaningless.

But you want us to be outraged over bullshit.

Quote:

I read also of Republicans who suddenly talk about unequal treatment of Americans in our judicial system. Yes, that is a problem, one recognized by the millions of people who don't have the money to fund your campaigns or your lobbyists, or to fund teams of lawyers like Trump's.
or OJ. Or who have the weight of the media and the FIB, and the establishment covering for them like Biden* and Hillary.

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It's a problem for all of the typical Americans who see that people like Trump get off over and over again.
Wow, speaking of reaching a verdict BEFORE the trial! Trump has NOT "gotten off". He was thoroughly investigated on totally fabricated charges and found not to be involved. The IRS has his tax returns. And he has not been tried on any of the pending charges, so far. This asshole is assuming that Trump is guilty, and he wants you to assume it too, using emotive faux outrage.

Now, if you want to talk about people who have never been credibly investigated BUT SHOULD be, let's start crawling up Biden's and Hillary's (and Pelosi's and McConnell's) asses.

Quote:

Trump says that he is a wealthy man. To say that a wealthy man is above the law is making the real problem worse.
Nobody is saying that but you. And you want us to believe that is true, too, and be outraged over a non-event.
Sheesh!

Quote:

I read Republican politicians claim that a former president cannot be tried.
It depends on for what. If it has to do with documents, top secret or otherwise, they are the President's documents to do with as they wish. Many former Presidents have retained "Top Secret" documents and never turned them over to the National Archives, or anyone. Including Bill Clinton
If it criminalizes free speech, or challenging elections then that would violate his Constitutional rights. One must draw lines between Constitutionall preocted behavior and criminal behavior.

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If that were true,
Yes, if you're not misrpresenting what was said

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then every wealthy criminal would run for office, seeking their lifelong get-out-of-jail card. If that were true, then presidents in office and out of office would be incentivized to commit crimes. If that were true, Americans would quickly lose all confidence in the office of the presidency.
Well, wealthy people who are most likey criminals HAVE run for office and won. Bill Clinton, for example, guilty of being a sexual predator.

Quote:

The job of the executive is to enforce the law.
No, that is the job of law enforcement. This guy is confused. And we hope law

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Saturday, September 9, 2023 7:46 AM

What Republicans believe, 2023 edition

I'm talking about simple, factual matters that are 100% contrary to expert opinion but are accepted routinely by most Republicans. Here are a few:

1. Trump won the election.

2. COVID came from a lab leak.

3. Climate change is a hoax.

4. Joe Biden took bribes from Hunter's clients.

5. Masks don't affect COVID transmission.

6. Tire FBI is engaged in a partisan war against Republicans.

7. Ukraine is not a cause worth supporting and Putin is worthy of being an ally.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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