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House GOP in open warfare over doomed spending plan
One Republican summed up the situation neatly as leadership-empowered negotiators faceplanted with days to go before a shutdown: “It’s a mess.”
As House Republicans began ripping apart their party’s latest spending proposal on a conference call their own leaders held to promote it, the plan’s two main defenders had to hang up the phone. They had flights to catch.
Reps. Dusty Johnson (R-S.D.), who represented centrists, and Byron Donalds (R-Fla.), who negotiated for conservatives, thought they had found a deal that would at least unite the fractious GOP — even if it couldn’t pass the Senate and avert a shutdown. Minutes after Johnson and Donalds left that Sunday night conference call, however, their work imploded, with a half-dozen House conservatives railing against it.
More than a dozen Republicans, mostly Donalds’ colleagues in the conservative Freedom Caucus, are publicly torching the spending plan he brokered. With just a four-seat majority, Speaker Kevin McCarthy can only afford to lose a handful of them given that he can’t count on Democratic votes — leaving the GOP bill effectively dead.
But beneath the surface, things are even worse for McCarthy this time around. The faceplant by the two negotiators he’d empowered has exposed a full-on House Republican rebellion that’s officially underway.
It’s bigger than a clash between the centrist and right wings of the party. The Freedom Caucus itself is divided, with many members swatting down a plan backed by their own leader. Many of those conservatives are now openly threatening to try to oust McCarthy if he relies on Democratic votes to avoid a shutdown, but they’re also withholding their support from the only Republican plan on paper.
More at https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/19/house-gop-spending-plan-00116
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An out-of-control GOP is the party of nonstop national crisis
Stop me if you’ve heard this one, but congressional Republicans are once again careening toward internal crisis and a damaging government shutdown.
You may remember this song-and-dance from the last four or five times the party’s hard-line Freedom Caucus members held America’s economy hostage.
In the past, Republican leaders managed by the slimmest of margins to avert financial catastrophe by working with Democrats to pass temporary funding bills. This time it isn’t even clear they can achieve that minimum level of competence.
It isn’t even clear that a sizable minority of Republican lawmakers want to keep the government open. Freedom Caucus stalwarts including Reps. Ken Buck (R-Colo.), Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) and Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.) dismissed McCarthy’s proposal out of hand without even attempting to offer an alternative. Luna, who recently gave birth and is still in the hospital, went so far as to say she’d leave her recovery bed in order to guarantee McCarthy’s continuing resolution fails.
Luna offers the perfect visual of the current GOP: A lawmaker willing to drag herself out of a hospital bed in order to ensure the federal government does not function.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4210334-an-out-of-control-gop-is-
the-party-of-nonstop-national-crisis/
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Democrat Triumphs in Republican Stronghold is Warning Sign to Trump
By James Bickerton On 9/20/23 at 6:56 AM EDT
"The results tonight in the towns of Northwood and Nottingham speak for themselves: Granite Staters resoundingly reject Republican extremism and are motivated to vote for change in record numbers."
https://www.newsweek.com/democrat-triumphs-republican-stronghold-warni
ng-sign-trump-1828406
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Originally posted by second:
Democrat Triumphs in Republican Stronghold is Warning Sign to Trump
By James Bickerton On 9/20/23 at 6:56 AM EDT
"The results tonight in the towns of Northwood and Nottingham speak for themselves: Granite Staters resoundingly reject Republican extremism and are motivated to vote for change in record numbers."
https://www.newsweek.com/democrat-triumphs-republican-stronghold-warni
ng-sign-trump-1828406
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During the race Guzofski hit out at the impact of "outsider" money, with the Republican candidate raising less than $500 versus over $46,000 for Rafter.
Addressing voters he commented: "Are outsiders trying to influence our district's election? Well, if you are a resident of Northwood, you may have received political postcards from New Jersey and Georgia. One of the fundamental principles of an election is that the people of that district get to choose a local resident to represent them.
Yup.
That's how Democrats win. The same way that referendums to raise property taxes pass.
Nobody goes to non-presidential primaries or special elections.
Total votes last night: 2,811
https://ballotpedia.org/New_Hampshire_state_legislative_special_electi
ons,_2023
Total votes on November 8th, 2022: 13,993
https://ballotpedia.org/Benjamin_T._Bartlett_IV
Meaningless. Reading into this is foolish on your part.
And also, hardly a "Republican stronghold". Even in the Presidential race, votes were close:
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In 2020, former President Donald Trump (R) carried Rockingham 1 49.1% to 48.7%.
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Quote:Per usual you absolutely don't know that Trump is a complete asshole, except in the eyes of people who are mentally and morally degenerate assholes much like Trump is. Every Trumptard I know was an asshole years before Trump became a politician. So were you, 6ix, you drunk with no teeth. Unless assholes like you outnumber people who work and are honest and productive, unlike crooked Trump, he will lose.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Meaningless. Reading into this is foolish on your part.
And also, hardly a "Republican stronghold". Even in the Presidential race, votes were close:Quote:
In 2020, former President Donald Trump (R) carried Rockingham 1 49.1% to 48.7%.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Per usual you absolutely don't know that Trump is a complete asshole, except in the eyes of people who are mentally and morally degenerate assholes much like Trump is. Every Trumptard I know was an asshole years before Trump became a politician. So were you, 6ix, you drunk with no teeth. Unless assholes like you outnumber people who work and are honest and productive, unlike crooked Trump, he will lose.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Meaningless. Reading into this is foolish on your part.
And also, hardly a "Republican stronghold". Even in the Presidential race, votes were close:Quote:
In 2020, former President Donald Trump (R) carried Rockingham 1 49.1% to 48.7%.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Your personal insults have nothing to do with the numbers.
Your article is a lie and a cope.
Republicans barely won that race in 2020 during the Presidential election. It was a nail-biter with only a 0.4% difference in votes, and hardly the definition of a Republican "stronghold", so losing it with an even-playing field during a Presidential election would have meant nothing, let alone the clown-show that happened last night.
All the fact that Democrats were able to out-fund the Republican running against them in a special election on September 19th of an off-year by 9,200% with out-of-state donor money and still only manage to win that election by 331 votes out of 2,811 people that voted means that Republicans dropped the ball again and had better figure out how to spend money wisely. They could have easily won that election with only $50k spent on promoting Rafter's competition instead of leaving him high and dry with only $500 in his campaign. $500 will buy you a movie night and dinner for two in New Hampshire in 2023.
This was a bellwether of nothing.
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Quote:The insults get to the foundation of the problem, one that few Republicans allow themselves to know about themselves. You assholes can't understand your crippling limitations and won't fix your goddamn mental disorders such as obsessions with proving Disney is a failure and Sound of Freedom is the biggest success of 2023. Here is one more mental disorder. I'm almost certain you won't understand the importance of E-Verify. This would solve every problem about illegal aliens, which is why it won't become mandatory. Republican Congressmen won't vote for it because it would actually solve the problem. They don't want it solved in a straightforward fashion. They want a myriad of sub-solutions that won't work.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Your personal insults have nothing to do with the numbers.
Your article is a lie and a cope.
Republicans aren’t serious about border security. When the House Freedom Caucus put out its demands for a budget bill, one of them was the passage of border legislation.
The stopgap bill includes a House-passed border security proposal that orders construction of the border wall to resume, boosts the ranks of Border Patrol agents and tightens asylum rules. The plan included in the continuing resolution, though, leaves out a provision of the immigration bill related to E-Verify, which allows employers to confirm the eligibility of employees to work in the U.S. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-republicans-put-forth-short-term-de
al-to-fund-government/
Of course it leaves out E-Verify. Republican border plans include lots of crowd-pleasing provisions that have little prospect of working (more walls, more agents, etc.) while leaving out the one thing that works: E-Verify. E-Verify is the answer to our old-fashioned problem of illegal immigrants: if they can't prove they're legally allowed to work, they can't get hired. If they get hired anyway, the company that did it is liable for big fines. That would work.
Business Republicans know that more border walls are just hot air, so they don't object to Donald Trump and his acolytes using them to feed the base some red meat. But E-Verify? That would actually constrain their ability to hire undocumented workers—and that's why Republicans stay quiet about it.
Americans Overwhelmingly Support E-Verify
February 29, 2012
https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/americans-overwhelmin
gly-support-e-verify
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The reason the Democrats won that special election was what I stated it was. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Nobody even knew there was an election in the first place, with less than 3,000 people even bothering to show up. And the article lied and called that a "Republican Stronghold" that Trump should be worried about when he only carried it by 0.4% in 2020.
The article was a flat out lie and a cope.
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Originally posted by second:
Here is one more mental disorder. I'm almost certain you won't understand the importance of E-Verify. This would solve every problem about illegal aliens, which is why it won't become mandatory. Republican Congressmen won't vote for it because it would actually solve the problem. They don't want it solved in a straightforward fashion. They want a myriad of sub-solutions that won't work.
Republicans aren’t serious about border security. When the House Freedom Caucus put out its demands for a budget bill, one of them was the passage of border legislation.
The stopgap bill includes a House-passed border security proposal that orders construction of the border wall to resume, boosts the ranks of Border Patrol agents and tightens asylum rules. The plan included in the continuing resolution, though, leaves out a provision of the immigration bill related to E-Verify, which allows employers to confirm the eligibility of employees to work in the U.S. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-republicans-put-forth-short-term-de
al-to-fund-government/
Of course it leaves out E-Verify. Republican border plans include lots of crowd-pleasing provisions that have little prospect of working (more walls, more agents, etc.) while leaving out the one thing that works: E-Verify. E-Verify is the answer to our old-fashioned problem of illegal immigrants: if they can't prove they're legally allowed to work, they can't get hired. If they get hired anyway, the company that did it is liable for big fines. That would work.
I know it would work, you fucking goon.
People like you and me? We can't do a fucking thing without providing our social security number first.
I've already said when Trump was building the wall that we wouldn't even need to do this if we just enforced the laws that were already on the books.
Not just e-verify, but no education, healthcare or housing for invaders that come across the border either. Including children.
If you make it clear that there is NOTHING here for any of them, they won't keep coming.
But Democrats love giving tax dollars to people who aren't citizens and shoveling hundreds of Billions to the Ukraine while life keeps getting worse for actual taxpaying citizens who were born here.
Your party is pure cancer and will lead to the destruction of the country.
And yeah... The fucking Bushite cocksuckers that have been flushing the country along with the Democrats for decades aren't helping matters any.
But let's talk about stupid shit like Abortion instead of the actual invasion of our country that gets worse every single day that passes. I'm sure all the military age males that are being illegally shipped into our country are really going to obey any Democrat imposed gun laws when their mere existence here is breaking the law in the first place. Rich, white, tree-hugging Democrats are going to be the first slaves of the New America they voted for.
And I'm not talking wage-slaves like 90% of Americans already are. I'm talking literal boot-licking, meth-addicted sex slaves of the new crime overlords in the making.
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Quote:I can see why a movie like Sound of Freedom would attract Trumptards to go to the theater. And why Trump plays the fear and loathing calliope at every public appearance. That movie and Trump know what buttons to push in the brains of Trumptards.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I know it would work, you fucking goon.
People like you and me? We can't do a fucking thing without providing our social security number first.
I've already said when Trump was building the wall that we wouldn't even need to do this if we just enforced the laws that were already on the books.
Not just e-verify, but no education, healthcare or housing for invaders that come across the border either. Including children.
If you make it clear that there is NOTHING here for any of them, they won't keep coming.
But Democrats love giving tax dollars to people who aren't citizens and shoveling hundreds of Billions to the Ukraine while life keeps getting worse for actual taxpaying citizens who were born here.
Your party is pure cancer and will lead to the destruction of the country.
And yeah... The fucking Bushite cocksuckers that have been flushing the country along with the Democrats for decades aren't helping matters any.
But let's talk about stupid shit like Abortion instead of the actual invasion of our country that gets worse every single day that passes. I'm sure all the military age males that are being illegally shipped into our country are really going to obey any Democrat imposed gun laws when their mere existence here is breaking the law in the first place. Rich, white, tree-hugging Democrats are going to be the first slaves of the New America they voted for.
And I'm not talking wage-slaves like 90% of Americans already are. I'm talking literal boot-licking, meth-addicted sex slaves of the new crime overlords in the making.
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