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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Monday, September 25, 2023 10:39 PM


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

And then there's the neocons(v1.0) versus the neocons(v2.0) issue, both of which are in la-la land
And I've heard the CIA is none too happy with either the neocons or the DIA.

SECOND: Signym, pulverizing the Russian Army has wide-spread support from all factions in the US, except those who repeat Trump's mantra "Russia, Russia, Russia".

SIX: No. It doesn't.
When did you Democrats become a bunch of warmongering Bushites? Was it during the Obama administration, or did that only start when you were inflicted with terminal TDS?

SECOND: Ukrainians kill Russian soldiers in retribution for Russians murdering 4,000,000 Ukrainian civilians.

You're so full of bullshit, SECOND. The only one who's making a Big Deal about this is you. Trust me, there is LITTLE DISCUSSION about this in Ukraine. I know, because I listen.

I know why you get so stuck on historical injustices. (SLAVERY! HOLOCAUST! ETHNIC CLEANSING!) It's bc it provides you with a continuous unending justification for your 'hatred du jour', bc past injustices will always be there and can't be undone.

There is NOTHING that can be done to right the past once pereptrators are dead. The only thing is to make sure not to do them again. You OTOH like to selectively dredge up long-dead corpses. Not only is that generically stupid, you're mightily selective about the events you keep harping on.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Monday, September 25, 2023 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You're so full of bullshit, SECOND. The ONLY ONE who's aking a Big Deal about this is you. Trust me, there is LITTLE DISCUSSION about this in Ukraine.

I know why you get so stuck on historical injustices. (SLAVERY! HOLOCAUST! ETHNIC CLEANSING!)

It's bc it provides you with a continuous unending justification for your 'hatred do jour', bc past injustices will always be there and can't be undone.

There is NOTHING that can be done to right past injustices once pereptrators are dead. The only thing is to make sure not to do them again. You OTOH like to selectively dredge up long-dead corpses. Not only is that generically stuoid, you're mightily selective about the events you keep flogging.

Why would US citizens take a side in a long-standing conflict between Russia and Ukrainians? Because Russian threats to nuke the US caused the US to spend over $10 trillion on nukes deterring Russians from carrying out the threats. The US is even now spending far more per year on deterring Russia from nuking the US than the Ukraine War costs the US per year.

Do you want to know how much the US spends on nuclear forces per year? Then google it and be amazed at the cost:
https://www.google.com/search?q=How+much+does+the+US+spend+on+nuclear+
forces+per+year


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, September 25, 2023 10:49 PM

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Why would US citizens take a side in a long-standing conflict between Russia and Ukrainians?


Why would US citizens support a pointless war in Vietnam?

Why would US citizens support a poinltess war on Serbia?

Why would US citizens support euqally pointless wars in Afganistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya?

Why would the Canadian Parliament honor an ACTUAL WWII Nazi?
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Canada's House Speaker Apologizes For Honoring Actual Nazi; Still Radio Silence From ADL

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/zelenskyy-trudeau-honor-actual-3rd
-reich-nazi-standing-ovation


Because they're beaten to death by the kind of propaganda that you spend endless hours trolling the internet for, that's why.


And part of that propaganda involves faux outrage over long-dead corpses and demonizing your "enemy du jour" with an endless string of lies, and a totally false view of history. You're nothing but a puppet on a string.
Fuck off, SECOND.


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Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Monday, September 25, 2023 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Why would US citizens take a side in a long-standing conflict between Russia and Ukrainians?


Why would US citizens support a pointless war in Vietnam?

Why would US citizens support a poinltess war on Serbia?

Why would US citizens support euqally pointless wars in Afganistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya?

Because they're beaten to death by the kind of propaganda that you spend endless hours trolling the internet for, that's why.

US citizens did NOT support those wars. Although the Constitution requires Congress to declare war, Congress didn't declare war in any of those cases because citizens did NOT support it. The last time Congress declared war was in 1942 against Romania. Everything since has been Presidents getting away with murder because Congress could not make a direct and straightforward decision to stop a President.

https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/declarations-of-war.htm

Meanwhile, Congress does support sending ammo to Ukraine.
https://www.crfb.org/blogs/congress-approved-113-billion-aid-ukraine-2
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, September 26, 2023 12:41 AM

Polling indicates that USA citizens initially supported ALL of these wars, either they were scared with the whole "domino theory" or stampeded with "WMD/ terror" or induced with "human rights/R2P". Libya and Serbia were destroyed pretty quickly, but a lot of our other "interventions" took years ... decades... before failure, and lost widespread support halfway thru.

If popular opinion didn't matter, then you, and many others, wouldn't be saturating the media with lies.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Tuesday, September 26, 2023 1:33 AM

The upside down world of Russia where the criminals want their judges arrested.

Russia Issues Arrest Warrant for Hague Court Judges
By Isabel Van Brugen On 9/25/23 at 7:22 AM EDT

Russia has added International Criminal Court (ICC) President Piotr Józef Hofmanski to its wanted list, months after the court accused President Vladimir Putin of the illegal deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia.

Hofmanski, his deputy, Luz del Carmen Ibáñez Carranza, and Judge Bertram Schmitt are "wanted under the Criminal Code," independent Russian news outlet MediaZona reported on Monday, citing the online database of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs.

"Hofmanski Józef Jozef, Polish. Wanted under an article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation," the Russian interior ministry said on its online database, without elaborating on the allegations against him.

Russia has issued arrest warrants for several judges, including ICC Judge Tomoko Akane, who was placed on its wanted list in late July. ICC Prosecutor Karim Khan was added to the wanted list in May.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-arrest-warrant-hague-icc-judges-wanted
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, September 26, 2023 1:36 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Polling indicates that USA citizens initially supported ALL of these wars, either they were scared with the whole "domino theory" or stampeded with "WMD/ terror" or induced with "human rights/R2P". Libya and Serbia were destroyed pretty quickly, but a lot of our other "interventions" took years ... decades... before failure, and lost widespread support halfway thru.

If popular opinion didn't matter, then you, and many others, wouldn't be saturating the media with lies.

I write because somebody should tell the Russians, preferably with two bullets in the back of the head, that this war does not end with the Russians triumphing.

Signym, you are so silly. Americans lie on surveys. You find out what an American really believes by what they do, not what they say. That is the reason why the US was forced to switch to an all-volunteer Army since 99% of them don't actual support war. They say they support it, but not enough to join the fight or send their spouse or children or grandchildren to war. The US military is not able to reach its recruitment goals because too many Americans don't support war.

Too many in Congress don't support war. That is why Congress hasn't declared war since 1942. That's why few in Congress were ever in battle. Reserves? Yes. National Guard? Yes. A lawyer in the military? Yes. Fight? No. They won't risk their lives before they joined Congress and they won't risk losing an election over war now that they are in Congress.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, September 26, 2023 4:07 AM

'Air Regiment Leaders' Killed as Drone Self-Destructs on Russian Airfield

By Brendan Cole On 9/25/23

Russian officers were among casualties caused by a Ukrainian unmanned aerial device (UAV) that landed on a military airfield and exploded upon inspection, it has been reported.

Ukrainian intelligence sources said that a drone exploded on the runway at the Khalino airfield less than 5 miles from the city of Kursk, which hosts Russia's 14th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment as well as Sukhoi Su-30SM fighter aircraft.

After the Ukrainian drone had apparently landed "safely" on the runway, officers from Russia's Air Force and its main intelligence service, the FSB, examined the device, RBC Ukraine reported on Monday.

"When the delegation tried to examine the 'trophy' UAV, there was a detonation," a Ukrainian source told RBC, which said "air regiment leaders" were among the casualties.

The outlet reported that among those killed or injured during the explosion were the commander of the 14th aviation regiment, one of his deputies, a group of aviation officers, an FSB officer, and other airfield personnel.

The report did not specify exactly who was killed or injured and Newsweek has emailed the Russian defense ministry for comment on the claims.

The Russian military blogger Boris Rozhin posted on Telegram that there had been "deaths" at the airfield after one of the drones that landed on the Khalino airfield "turned out to have had a 'surprise."

"Previously, the enemy had already used such tactics in the Kherson direction," said that post, which added that several drones had to be blown up after they had landed and that "enemy drones must be handled with care."

The Baza Telegram channel, which is linked to Russia's security services, has reported similar incidents recently. Last week, it said that a drone detonated after it had fallen on a farm in the Voronezh oblast south of Moscow.

The outlet posted images of the device lying in a field near a bus stop in what the Russian MOD said was an attempt to carry out a terrorist attack. It also said a drone discovered in the Kursk regional town of Lgov on September 17, near an inactive oil depot, exploded "40 minutes after its discovery."

"The Ukrainian Armed Forces have started to launch self-destructing drones," Baza reported.

Other drone attacks have reportedly targeted Kursk in the last couple of days, including a local Ministry of Internal Affairs building in the early hours of Monday morning, according to Ukrainian security sources quoted by RBC.

Ukrainian outlets reported that on the weekend, drones had struck Kursk's FSB building as well as an oil facility near the local airfield, prompting Mayor Igor Kutsak to cancel City Day celebrations.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-drones-kursk-detonation-182953
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, September 26, 2023 4:59 AM

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Originally posted by second:
'Air Regiment Leaders' Killed as Drone Self-Destructs on Russian Airfield

By Brendan Cole On 9/25/23



"We're Democrats. We love war and we love dead people."

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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Tuesday, September 26, 2023 5:39 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Polling indicates that USA citizens initially supported ALL of these wars, either they were scared with the whole "domino theory" or stampeded with "WMD/ terror" or induced with "human rights/R2P". Libya and Serbia were destroyed pretty quickly, but a lot of our other "interventions" took years ... decades... before failure, and lost widespread support halfway thru.

If popular opinion didn't matter, then you, and many others, wouldn't be saturating the media with lies.

I write because somebody should tell the Russians, preferably with two bullets in the back of the head, that this war does not end with the Russians triumphing.

Russia will achieve its objectives in Ukraine and NATO capabilities will be depleted.
Expect a blizzard of lies about "Why we need to support Ukraine in order to finish off the Russian military" from both establishment GOP and most Democrats.

And then, we're going to.... pivot to Taiwan?

Apparently certain weapons packages to Taiwan have ALREADY been delayed by a year, or more, thanks to us depleting our stores.

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Americans lie on surveys.
Americans repeat what has been hammered into their heads by the media. Ukraine YAY!! China BOO!!! Russians = Hitler + orcs! Terrorists OMG!! "With us or against us!" BLM! REPARATIONS! LGBTQ+!

Those are words. But when it comes to AMERICAN INTERESTS, well... they have a better sense of them than you do.

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Too many in Congress don't support war.


Why should they? Come up with ONE solid reason why we need to constantly be at war somewhere far away.

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Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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