Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Milley & Stoltenberg Agree: 'We Must Prepare Ourselves For A Long War In Ukraine'
Oh, they wish!!!
They've scaled back their ambitions from "victory in Ukraine" and "regime change in Russia" to "prepare for a long war".
Guys, it's too fucking late to "prepare" for a long war.
NATO/USA are out of ammo and weapons that can be conveniently spared, weapons manufacturing capability is paltry and vastly exceeded by Russia, troop levels are insufficient to tackle anything other than a third-world military, and many economies are in serious trouble. NATO and the USA will fall further and further behind. And now, they want to tackle China???
I think what they're REALLY doing is preparing the USA/NATO public for putting Ukraine on the back burner and eventually trying to memory-hole the entire clusterfuck. But I don't think Russia will let them. Russia has security issues it needs to resolve, ie. NATO expansion to the east. Creating a neutral Ukraine is just the first step.
If Russia succeeds, I don't know if it will pause, or move on to the next hot issue, which is those missile installations in Poland and Romania.
Just trying to bring some, yanno, reality to the realworld forum.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
Poor comrade Signym. She lives in a delusional state. Since Russia invaded Ukraine, NATO has expanded. Expanded in a way that is a nightmare for Russia. NATO countries have also enlarged their military budgets. And as far as what America has sent in the way of munitions, it is mostly systems that are being phased out of service. No loss there.
Russia has lost many naval vessels including a submarine, unimaginable amounts of its combat capabilities; its hardware and munitions. And 3 hundred thousand troops killed and injured. All this without NATO firing a shot.
I told you comrade when Putin was raising a glass of Champaign to Trump being elected, that payback was going to be a bitch. Russia as you know it will never recover from this; ever.
Can_you_see_me_laughing?
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You really think so?
Well, time will tell, won't it?
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Zelensky Fires Top Defense Officials In Corruption Purge Ahead Of Washington Trip
BWAHAHAHA!
Corruption has been endemic in Ukraine since whenever. Seems a little LATE, dontcha think, to be addressing this now? Especially at the END of a (failed) counteroffensive? I mean, really, if Kiev really wanted this to succeed they would have tackled this three years ago.
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Zelensky Fires Top Defense Officials In Corruption Purge Ahead Of Washington Trip
BWAHAHAHA!
Corruption has been endemic in Ukraine since whenever. Seems a little LATE, dontcha think, to be addressing this now? Especially at the END of a (failed) counteroffensive? I mean, really, if Kiev really wanted this to succeed they would have tackled this three years ago.
Shortly after the formation of the special committee, Truman delivered a radio address describing rumors circulating in Washington of profiteering and favoritism in the awarding of defense contracts. "When people create delays for profit, when they sell poor products for defense use, when they cheat on price and quality," he declared, "they aren't any different from a draft dodger and the public at large feels just the same way about it." Truman encouraged Americans to report to the committee "information of irregularities, based on facts, where the Government's interests have been violated." Thousands of Americans from across the country responded, flooding the committee with letters.
https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/investigations/truman.h
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Swiss army suspends sale of old bunkers due to Russia-Ukraine war
Swiss army takes measures to enhance self-protection capabilities
Timo Kirez | Update : 19.09.2023
GENEVA
The Swiss military has halted the sale of its aging bunkers that dot the country as the war in Ukraine continues, the country's army chief told local media on Monday.
"We have to take what we have," top Swiss military official Thomas Sussli told newspapers owned by the Tamedia Group media company, adding that the military is in the process of assessing the country's bunker stock.
Among these facilities, Sussli said, are bunkers whose locations are known and are currently in use by the army, which aims to ensure that the country's military cannot be knocked out of action with just a few bombing raids.
The Russia-Ukraine war has also prompted the Swiss army to seek to decentralize its structure, with the air force, for example, to train to operate from improvised sites.
Switzerland's military had already announced in August that it would focus more on defending itself and its assets in the wake of the war in Ukraine.
"We always have to protect our shelters and camps first before we can protect others," Sussli had told public broadcaster SRF in August.
He also announced plans to enhance its counterintelligence capabilities, along with further measures on supplies and infrastructure.
Switzerland has for decades been home to hundreds of thousands of shelters and bunkers for its civilians to take refuge in the event of military conflict, having adopted a policy of "one shelter for every inhabitant."
According to the Swiss Federal Office for Civil Protection (FOCP), there are about 370,000 private and public shelters capable of housing around 9 million people for a unique coverage rate of over 100%. This system of shelters was created during the Cold War.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukraine-war/swiss-army-suspends-sale-o
f-old-bunkers-due-to-russia-ukraine-war/2994890
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NYT In Rare About-Face Now Says Ukraine (Not Russia) Behind Mass Casualty Missile Strike On Market
The New York Times has issued a surprise about-face regarding the September 6 deadly missile strike on the center of the Ukrainian city of Kostiantynivka, which is in Donetsk Oblast.
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The fresh Tuesday Times report https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/world/europe/ukraine-missile-kostia
ntynivka-market.html underscores that less than two hours after the market was struck, "President Volodymyr Zelensky blamed Russian 'terrorists' for the attack, and many media outlets followed suit."
Quote:And that's what's missing from most "Kiev says" echo chamber reports ... evidence. Perhaps some of you have heard of the concept?
The NY Times was at the time among those major outlets which uncritically went with Zelensky's version of events.
But the missile came from the Ukrainian side, with the NY Times' investigators finding that it was a Ukrainian surface-to-air missile that hit the busy civilian area and killed and wounded scores.
One of the key videos which the NYT analyzed to reach this conclusion was actually provided by Zelensky's office, ironically enough.
According to the New York Times report, "evidence collected and analyzed by The New York Times, including missile fragments, satellite imagery, witness accounts and social media posts, strongly suggests the catastrophic strike was the result of an errant Ukrainian air defense missile fired by a Buk launch system."
MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nyt-rare-about-face-now-says-uk
rainian-missile-likely-behind-mass-casualty-strike
That's why I reject fatuous claims from Kiev about "300,000 Russians killed", and why you should, too.
Oh, and don't bitch at me, THUGR, that this comes from ZH since I linked the original NYT article.
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Zelensky: ‘War Crimes Must Be Punished’
Ukraine’s president made an impassioned plea at the opening of the U.N. General Assembly to bring wrongdoers—such as Russia—to justice.
By J. Alex Tarquinio, September 19, 2023, 5:37 PM
Zelensky arrived in New York with a small entourage and a big agenda, hoping to garner multilateral support for Ukraine’s ambitious peace plan and perhaps even his government’s cherished goal of establishing a special tribunal to try Russian President Vladimir Putin for the crime of aggression.
“For the first time in modern history, we have a real chance to end the aggression on the terms of the nation which was attacked,” Zelensky said in his much-anticipated turn at the U.N. General Assembly’s famous rostrum today. Speaking in English, he told the assembly that “while Russia is pushing the world to the final war, Ukraine is doing everything to ensure that after Russian aggression, no one in the world will dare to attack any nation. Weaponization must be restrained. War crimes must be punished.”
With a Ukraine delegation including Zelensky’s wife and foreign minister joining him in the assembly hall, and Russia represented by its deputy ambassador to the U.N., Zelensky made it clear that he didn’t believe promises would be enough to reassure Ukraine. “Evil cannot be trusted,” he said. “Ask [dead mercenary boss Yevgeny] Prigozhin if one bets on Putin’s promises.”
Putin is already facing charges in the International Criminal Court for the alleged unlawful deportation of children from Ukraine. But an independent tribunal for the crime of aggression has been among Kyiv’s goals since the early days of the war, and its diplomats were circulating a draft resolution for the U.N. General Assembly’s consideration as early as last October. Ultimately, the proposal was left out of the resolution that was supported by 141 member states in February in order to persuade more countries to sign on.
Polish President Andrzej Duda has been more explicit than many of Ukraine’s allies in his support for the idea. He told the U.N. General Assembly today, “we support the idea of establishing an ad hoc special tribunal.” Then, foreshadowing Zelensky, he added, “The crimes must be accounted for, and the perpetrators punished.”
But Zelensky may need to use all of his powers of persuasion to win over new converts to the idea in New York. “I’m not sure he’s going to find that the fence-sitters are very receptive to the idea of a tribunal,” said Richard Gowan, the U.N. director at the International Crisis Group. Zelensky might be arriving in New York with a stronger hand, Gowan said, if Ukraine’s slow-moving counteroffensive were further along. “It’s a lot harder to get other U.N. members to sign up to that sort of plan when they’re still very skeptical about how things are going to turn out on the battlefield.”
Moscow and Kyiv are locked in a diplomatic tussle for the hearts and minds of some traditionally nonaligned countries. For example, the foreign ministers of both countries recently made swings through African countries that have abstained in U.N. General Assembly votes about Russia’s war in Ukraine. Thomas G. Weiss, a CUNY Graduate Center political science professor and a longtime U.N. watcher, finds it baffling that more than 40 countries can still be sitting on the General Assembly sidelines.
“In rhetorical terms, the one thing they can usually agree on is that colonization was not a great idea,” he said. “And yet they do not condemn this blatant return to empire.”
More at https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/19/unga-zelensky-speech-united-natio
ns-ukraine-russia-biden-war-crimes/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921
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Russian soldiers are being slaughtered as they go up against their Ukrainian counterparts without ammunition, according to a recently released interview with a soldier's wife.
Three Russian brigades were virtually destroyed in the fight for the settlement of Andriivka about eight miles south of Bakhmut, according to a Ukrainian general.
One Russian soldier’s family described the dire situation he and his comrades faced on the ground with near-zero support from their officers.
The man’s wife said: “They are thrown into this Andriivka practically without weapons. [My husband] said that basically ‘we are going at them with shovels and without artillery support’.”
Even in the face of an almost certain death, there can be no retreat, according to the soldier's wife. Speaking to Radio Liberty, she said: “There's no retreat because there are people behind us who won't spare us either.”
The use of so-called barrier units by the Russian side has been documented throughout the war and in June video emerged of retreating Russian soldiers appearing to be gunned down by their own side.
In addition, a video purportedly from Andriivka appears to show surrendering Russians shelled in friendly fire as they made their way to Ukrainian lines.
Later, the soldier - who has had his name withheld for his protection - told reporters: “We send 25 people on a mission, and only six return. Our artillerymen are currently launching assaults.
“They were told 'you still have no ammunition; go in as infantry'. But the guys don't even know what an assault is.
“Essentially, they send us there as cannon fodder. We need the coordinates for our artillery and information about the targets we should engage, but our artillery can't function because they lack shells.”
He claims that when desperate soldiers facing cluster bombs and intense Ukrainian bombardments relay the hopeless situation to their commanders, the response is often: “So what?”
https://www.the-express.com/news/world-news/112346/russian-soliders-uk
raine-war-andriivka
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Timothy Snyder on why we should thank Ukrainians
Joel Eissenberg | September 20, 2023 9:14 am
Timothy Snyder is the Richard C. Levin Professor of History at Yale University, a permanent fellow at the Institute for Human Sciences in Vienna and an expert on Russian and Eastern European history. Yesterday, he narrated an essay on his Substack site https://snyder.substack.com/p/thanking-ukrainians#details on the occasion of Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s visit to the US and expression of gratitude for UN support. Snyder believes that we should be thanking Ukranians. Here, I summarize his ten reasons:
1. Security in Europe: Ukraine has been the victim of a long-anticipated Russian military attack, the first such attack since NATO was established, and Ukraine is fulfilling the NATO mission of European security singlehandedly on the strength of 3% of the US defense budget;
2. Audit, in practice, of the US defense budget: using US military technology* and equipment, Ukraine has won back half the territory it lost to Russia in 2022 and has thereby shown us what a portion of the US defense budget can do in the field;
3. Increasing security in the Pacific: Ukraine’s success in absorbing Russian military power serves as a caution to China in its ambition to attack and conquer Taiwan and to threaten the South China Sea by showing the difficulty in carrying out offensive military operations;
4. Helping to feed the world: before the war started, Ukraine was a major source of food for Asia and Africa, and has some of the most fertile soil on the planet and is close to ports on the Black Sea. Russia has destroyed dams, irrigation, farm fields and port facilities, and Ukraine continues to try to get food out to feed the world;
5. Making nuclear war less likely: by refusing to give in to Russian nuclear blackmail and fighting back, Ukraine shows that other nations don’t have to possess nuclear weapons in order to stand up to nuclear powers, thereby making nuclear proliferation less likely;
6. Giving democracy a chance; democracy has been in decline for most of the 21st century, and the Russian attack on Ukraine is an explicit attack on democracy that Ukraine has steadfastly resisted in the name of democracy, demonstrating the strength of democracy;
7. Talking about freedom; freedom as a way of talking about a future in which people can realize their own possibilities;
8. Modeling courage; Zelenskyy exemplified this by staying in Kyiv when it was under siege and under threat of assassination, but that’s just the most visible example of the physical and moral courage the Ukrainian soldiers and civilians show every day that they remain in, and fight for, their homeland;
9. Search for truth; journalists, scholars, writers continue to report and discuss difficult truths about their society and culture during the stress and violence of war;
10. Giving us a chance to be on the right side; our people are not in Ukraine taking the risks to resist an illegal war, but the opportunity to help is important for us in evaluating our own democracy and our place in the world.
*Snyder overlooks the critical role of Starlink technology, which is privately owned, although the Ukraine military use is paid for by US tax dollars
https://angrybearblog.com/2023/09/timothy-snyder-on-why-we-should-than
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Well!
I didn't see THIS coming!
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NATO Fractures: In U-Turn, Poland Announces It Will No Longer Arm Ukraine
Wednesday, Sep 20, 2023 - 06:00 PM
The dam is breaking on unified Western support for Ukraine, and the timing couldn't be worse for Zelensky, given tomorrow he's expected to meet with President Biden at the White House. On Wednesday evening there is monumental news out of Poland which could potentially change the entire course of the war.
"Poland will no longer arm Ukraine to focus on its own defense," Polish prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki announced just hours after Warsaw summoned Ukraine's ambassador related to a fresh war of words and spat over blocked grain, according to the AFP. Warsaw has throughout more than a year-and-a-half of the Ukraine-Russia war been Kiev's staunchest and most outspoken supporter.
Will this massive and hugely significant about-face mark the beginning of the end? Are peace negotiations and ceding of territory in the Donbas inevitable at this point?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-fractures-u-turn-poland-an
nounces-will-no-longer-arm-ukraine
From
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1704617373561397316
Also
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/21/poland-stop-ukraine-weap
ons-supply-grain-exports-dispute
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