Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:Russia invaded the Korean peninsula but because the USA interfered, Russia was not able to set up a puppet government for the entire Korean culture. Russia has invaded Ukraine and is now setting up another puppet government:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Picking narrow examples and basing your questions on false premises?
Also, dragging the thread wildly off-topic???
Too obvious!
Moscow stages local elections in occupied parts of Ukraine
By Felix Light and Felix Hoske
August 31, 2023
Russian-installed authorities began holding regional elections on Thursday in parts of Ukraine Russia claimed as its own last year, seeking to cement Moscow's authority in what it calls its "new territories" despite the ongoing conflict.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/moscow-stages-local-elections-occ
upied-parts-ukraine-2023-08-31/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Corrupt Billionaire Behind Zelensky's Rise To Fame & Power Arrested
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/corrupt-billionaire-behind-zele
nskys-rise-fame-power-arrested
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Quote:Russia isn't poor, and RUSSIANS aren't poor. In terms of GDP by purchasing power parity, Russia is right there with Germany, and most recent data says Germany has fallen one place. https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, who could have predicted that SECOND would use my SINUSES as a diversion!
Yanno, it's funny, SECOND, but that sentence of yours is the classic, and I mean THE CLASSIC ... as in, people have used it as an example ... ad hominem. Instead of addressing the point (Reznikov being fired is an indication that Ukraine is losing the war) you essentially replied with "Well, you have boogers in your nose". When you resort to random name-calling, we all know you've got nothing relevant to say.
Seriously, dood, you've got to get a new style.
SECOND: blah blah blah.... Or in Putin's diseased brain, NATO is the cause of Russia's poverty, not Russia's sickly delusions of adequacy.
-parity/country-comparison
Furthermore, Russia's GINI index is significantly lower than the USA's, indicating a more even distribution of income.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality
While there are underdeveloped areas of Russia, you don't see hordes of desperately poor people living on the street like you do here. Catch up to the 2020's, m'kay?
Quote:Oh, you're just butt-hurt bc Russia is winning. The reality is that you don't give a crap about people being killed. I didn't hear you objecting to the #of people killed in the Vietnam war (which was also waged in Cambodia and Laos) other than it was a waste of ammmo.
Putin is a mass murderer.
The Russian MoD has been very careful to stay away from civilian targets. Ukraine deliberately targets civilians.
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Putin Killed Prigozhin Over Business, Not Vengeance
By Dmitri Alperovitch, Sept 5, 2023
When Wagner mercenary group leader, caterer, and convicted robber Yevgeny Prigozhin met his fiery death alongside other Wagner leaders 30 miles southeast of Valdai, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s favorite lakefront residence, most assumed that it was the Russian president’s long-awaited revenge for Prigozhin’s failed mutiny this summer. But real reasons for what was almost certainly an assassination, and the implications of the killing for regime stability, are likely quite different.
When Wagner mercenary group leader, caterer, and convicted robber Yevgeny Prigozhin met his fiery death alongside other Wagner leaders 30 miles southeast of Valdai, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s favorite lakefront residence, most assumed that it was the Russian president’s long-awaited revenge for Prigozhin’s failed mutiny this summer. But real reasons for what was almost certainly an assassination, and the implications of the killing for regime stability, are likely quite different.
The idea that this was revenge is tempting, given that Prigozhin’s mutiny, even if it rapidly disintegrated, seemed like a humiliation for Putin. But look at events since then, and it doesn’t add up. Revenge motive is inconsistent with Putin’s apparent forgiveness of Prigozhin in the strange deal struck in June, when in return for amnesty, the mutineer agreed to pull back his armored column marching on Moscow, disarm his troops, and go into exile to Belarus. Instead, judging by the flight records of Prigozhin’s private jet and in-person sightings all over St. Petersburg, Moscow, and Africa, he had done everything but set up residence in a Minsk villa.
Prigozhin and Putin both rose to wealth and power in the tumultuous and chaotic 1990s. That was the time of razborki—gangland confrontations, where disputes over the spoils of power would be resolved in a montage of violence. Bombings and contract shootings of oligarchs, rival businessmen, politicians, and organized crime figures were a regular occurrence on the streets of Russia’s major cities. Being a rich man in Russia was an inherently risky and deadly business.
Part of Putin’s appeal to Russia’s elite, whether they were criminals, businessmen, or politicians, was that he ended, or at least capped, that violence. Indeed, as of 2021, the homicide rate in Russia had dropped nearly 76 percent since the start of Putin’s tenure. Disputes could be resolved nonlethally by the system established by Putin, not by bullets fired into a limousine. Enemies of the regime, such as journalists, were fair game, but the gangsters who held power, officially or otherwise, were protected. In the aftermath of his failed mutiny, Prigozhin was offered a chance to keep playing by those rules; his refusal, and his brutal end, may mean a return to the era of bloody contestation.
Far from being ostracized by Russia’s president, by Putin’s own account, Prigozhin met with him in the Kremlin only a mere week after the armed revolt. In July, Prigozhin posted a photograph of himself attending the Kremlin-organized Africa leaders’ summit in St. Petersburg, where Putin held court with 17 heads of state, hardly an indication of a man on the run from Russian intelligence.
The theory that Russia’s president was simply trying to lull Wagner’s leader into a sense of safety before ordering a bomb to be placed on his plane is also illogical. The Kremlin had numerous opportunities to order Prigozhin’s death during his free-wheeling travels across Russia over the past two months.
To be sure, revenge can be a famously cold dish. But it wasn’t cost-free for Putin to appear to change his mind and revoke his pledges of Prigozhin’s safety. Having failed to destroy Wagner during its “March for Justice” on Moscow—and officials in Kyiv shared information with me indicating that Russian combat pilots had refused to follow orders to fire on the mutineers—Putin acquiesced to a pardon for Prigozhin to end the uprising and publicly guara
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Russian President Vladimir Putin drew historical parallels between Soviet participation in the Second World War and the current war in Ukraine to set ideological expectations for a prolonged war effort.
Putin gave a speech on September 5 that invoked the memory of significant Soviet military victories during the Second World War, including turning points in the battles of Stalingrad and Kursk and recapturing the Caucasus and Donbas.[18] Putin had notably attended a concert in honor of the Battle of Kursk’s 80th anniversary as Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin’s plane crashed on August 23.[19] Putin criticized the international community’s “attitude” to the buildup to the Second World War — very likely criticizing European countries for failing to intervene against Nazi Germany prior to the outbreak of war (and ignoring the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that briefly allied the Soviet Union with Nazi Germany, permitted the Soviet invasion of the Baltic States, and partitioned Poland) — as also creating conditions for the current conflict in Ukraine and drew parallels between reconstruction efforts and veterans assistance measures during and after the Second World War and the current war in Ukraine.[20] Putin also reamplified the Kremlin information operation falsely portraying the Ukrainian government as a “Nazi regime.” These direct parallels between the “special military operation” and the Second World War are likely the closest that Putin or any other senior Russian official has come to acknowledging the war in Ukraine as an actual war. These parallels also message to a domestic Russian audience that the ongoing Russian war effort is really a war effort despite the insistence on the euphemistic “special military operation.”
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-september-5-2023
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Quote:I am pretty sure the CIA and Russia want Russia to look richer than it is. Other sources point out that Russia is poorly run compared to . . . Canada. North Korea is poorly run, too. Both Russia and North Korea have killed tens of millions of their best people and exported the rest, leaving criminals and the untalented who couldn't hope for a better life to run things:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia isn't poor, and RUSSIANS aren't poor. In terms of GDP by purchasing power parity, Russia is right there with Germany, and most recent data says Germany has fallen one place. https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power
-parity/country-comparison
https://www.google.com/search?q=Compare+gdp+russia+canada
Signym, I suppose it needs to be mentioned that North Korea, set up to be Russia's little puppet, has kept its corner of the world in turmoil. Russia has done the same. Small minds copy each other's moves of threatening their prosperous neighbors with invasion and nuclear war.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Quote:WTH would the CIA want THAT??? I mean, we sanctioned Russia to infinity and beyond, and the narrative is supposed to be that "Russia is in tatters, tatters I tell you!" and that they're pulling chips out of washing machines(!) to make fighter jets.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia isn't poor, and RUSSIANS aren't poor. In terms of GDP by purchasing power parity, Russia is right there with Germany, and most recent data says Germany has fallen one place. https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power
-parity/country-comparison
SECOND: I am pretty sure the CIA and Russia want Russia to look richer than it is.
Quote:Other sources that estimate Russian GDP and growth are the IMF and World Bank.
SECOND: Other sources point out that Russia is poorly run compared to
Are you telling me that there is a transnational cabal of financiers and spooks who WANT to make our sanctions look like they failed?
The reality is... oh yeah, that nasty word again... that Russia is doing much better than even Russian planners expected. Come into 2023, my friend. You seem to be stuck in 1970.
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Quote:When will you notice that Russia got beaten in 2022 by Ukraine? Ukraine does not have a powerful military or a huge economy or a vast population and yet Russia is still blustering about its superiority and still threatening to nuke Ukraine, which would be like nuking part of Russia, assuming you believe Putin's claim that there is no Ukraine, only Russia all the way to Crimea. The way Russia can prove its superiority over Ukraine is to take control of Ukraine, but Russia is not making that happen, ergo Russia is not superior to Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The reality is... oh yeah, that nasty word again... that Russia is doing much better than even Russian planners expected. Come into 2023, my friend. You seem to be stuck in 1970.
It is two flabby countries battling one another -- Dumb versus Dumber. Ukraine has not blasted the Crimean Bridge, also called Kerch Strait Bridge, to smithereens because Ukraine is Dumb. A decade to prepare, yet Ukraine remains unable to destroy the bridge. The Ukrainians are almost as stupid as the Russians at warfare. Instead, Ukraine is breaking a few windows in Moscow, as if that is a good use for drones rather than utter waste and futility.
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I didn't notice bc it didn't happpen.
You're totally in la-la land, SECOND.
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Quote:Your Russian buddies will be shot out of the sky and die screaming in a fire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIS-T
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I didn't notice bc it didn't happpen.
You're totally in la-la land, SECOND.
Germany to Ramp Up Production of IRIS-T System After Achieving 110 Hits in Russia-Ukraine War
September 6, 2023
After a spectacular combat performance displayed by the German IRIS-T air defense system in Ukraine, the system’s manufacturer, Diehl Defense, announced that it will dramatically increase its production.
The announcement was made by Diehl Defense’s Chief Program Officer Harald Buschek on September 5, who said the production was being ramped up to meet rising demand brought on by Russia’s war in Ukraine. He spoke to reporters at an air base in Todendorf, northern Germany.
Germany has already delivered two IRIS-T systems to Ukraine, where they are primarily used to protect Kyiv from Russian missile threats.
Berlin has promised to provide Kyiv with an additional six IRIS-T units, and it anticipates receiving the first of those six systems in October 2024 for its air force.
Bushek noted that Ukrainian air defense units had shot down more than 110 targets using the German IRIS-T air defense system since they were first deployed in October 2022.
Most of these targets, he noted, were Russian cruise missiles, especially the Kalib, with a near-impeccable kill rate of 100%, German publication Speigel reported.
“The Ukrainians are absolute professionals; they have a hit rate of 100 % in Kyiv.” The company’s top official also observed that at the beginning of the year, the system succeeded in repelling an attack on Kyiv by intercepting 13 Russian cruise missiles that Russia launched at the capital city simultaneously.
The official noted that the privately held company intends to build at least eight systems in 2025, up from three to four units this year. He continued by saying that the output of missiles would more than triple this year, double the following year, and reach 400 to 500 by 2024.
Buschek further told the reporters that a brand-new IRIS-T SLM system is awaiting shipment to Ukraine. This will be the third battery of the system delivered to Kyiv by Berlin, which has steadfastly provided military aid to the war-torn country since the beginning of the year.
Last month, Germany sent a fresh batch of military aid to Ukraine, which included two IRIS-T SLS air defense system launchers. The IRIS-T SLS (Surface Launched Short Range) is a short-range ground-based air defense system based on the IRIS-T air-to-air missile.
In addition, it was reported last month that Germany had acquired 200 IRIS-T SLS (surface-launched short-range) air defense missiles from Sweden to give to Ukraine. Diehl Defense is refurbishing Swedish missiles to replace IRIS-T SLM missiles fired by Ukrainian forces defending themselves from Russian airstrikes.
Moreover, the Norwegian Ministry of Defense said it would donate converted IRIS-T air-to-air missiles to Ukraine for use by its ground-based air defense (GBAD). The missiles, of which the type was not specified, can be launched from launchers that Sweden is providing.
Military experts believe this goes on to establish the potency of the system operating in Ukraine, working round the clock against Russian missiles and UAVs.
Only a few Western countries had earlier purchased this system before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. However, with the return of war to the European continent, several nations on NATO’s eastern flank, including Estonia and Latvia, are anticipated to sign contracts for the IRIS-T in the upcoming weeks.
IRIS-T’s Excellent Combat Performance In Ukraine
A typical single IRIS-T SLM system consists of three mobile launchers, a truck-mounted multi-function radar, and another truck modified into a command post vehicle.
The truck-mounted missile system is intended to take down combat aircraft, attack helicopters, drones, anti-radar missiles, cruise missiles, bombs, and drone
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