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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:14 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

You've posted so many conflicting opinions ...

Russians support the war in Ukraine. Except when they don't.

Russian soldiers are brave and stalwart when the confront their military. Except when they commit atrocities.

Russians don't know how to fight wars/kill efficiently. Except when they use standoff weapons, and then they're cowards.

We're not at war with the Russian people. Except they're no better than orcs.

We're not at war with Russia. Except we want to destroy it.

I'm sure you'll post some other bullshit in the next post or two that will completely contradict what you just posted.

The incoherence of your posts is why I rarely bother with more than a sentence or two.


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Russians are traumatized people.

Hahaha!!!

See what I mean?

In another post or two you'll change your mind.

If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you.





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Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:42 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!!!

See what I mean?

In another post or two you'll change your mind.

If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you.





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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


Signym, you might think you're making sense, but you haven't looked at Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone. The Russians have been in the middle of a mental crisis for decades. What they are doing with their lives makes very little sense, except maybe to somebody who is just like them, by which I mean you and the Russians are crazy.

By the way, if Russia does win, I don't think that will be the end of Russian insanity. It will be an excuse to go crazy on another country after Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 16, 2022 10:53 AM


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!!!

See what I mean?
In another post or two you'll change your mind.
If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you.


SECOND: Signym, you might think you're making sense, but you haven't looked at Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone. The Russians have been in the middle of a mental crisis for decades.
blah blah blah.. will be an excuse to go crazy on another country after Ukraine.



Your problem, SECOND, is that you think of "Russians"... or "Trumptards"... or "Jehovah's Witnesses"... as if they're all the same.

You land on one characteristic ... Russians under the Tsars craved authoritarianism. Or, were backward. Superstitious. What-have-you. And then you apply it to ALL Russians, from time immemorial to the indefinite future.

You land on ANOTHER characteristic... Russians lost too many people fighting WWII .. and you apply THAT to all Russians throughout time and space.

And then you land, like a fly, on yet another characteristic: Russians are traumatized. And you apply it to Russians who suffered thru the breakup of their union and the depredations of the west, to those who never did.

You're dredging up anything negative that you can find and you splatter it liberally, whether it fits or not.

In my observation, SECOND, people who spend as much time AS YOU virtue-signalling how great they are and trying to break others down feel anxious, depressed, and massively guilty about themselves

Why do you feel like shit, SECOND?

****

And now, back to our regularly scheduled topic.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2022 5:20 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!!!

See what I mean?
In another post or two you'll change your mind.
If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you.


SECOND: Signym, you might think you're making sense, but you haven't looked at Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone. The Russians have been in the middle of a mental crisis for decades.
blah blah blah.. will be an excuse to go crazy on another country after Ukraine.



Your problem, SECOND, is that you think of "Russians"... or "Trumptards"... or "Jehovah's Witnesses"... as if they're all the same.

You land on one characteristic ... Russians under the Tsars craved authoritarianism. Or, were backward. Superstitious. What-have-you. And then you apply it to ALL Russians, from time immemorial to the indefinite future.

You land on ANOTHER characteristic... Russians lost too many people fighting WWII .. and you apply THAT to all Russians throughout time and space.

And then you land, like a fly, on yet another characteristic: Russians are traumatized. And you apply it to Russians who suffered thru the breakup of their union and the depredations of the west, to those who never did.

You're dredging up anything negative that you can find and you splatter it liberally, whether it fits or not.

In my observation, SECOND, people who spend as much time AS YOU virtue-signalling how great they are and trying to break others down feel anxious, depressed, and massively guilty about themselves

Why do you feel like shit, SECOND?

****

And now, back to our regularly scheduled topic.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


Signym, Russians are measurably crazy. Take for example Andrei Sakharov - Father of the Russian H-bomb and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. He was smart, but the crazy contradiction within that Russian was being very slow at understanding the consequences of building for Stalin H-bombs which still threaten the world.

Does Canada, a country with a larger economy than Russia, need H-bombs to protect itself from the evil USA stealing Canadian wealth? It does not, and neither does Russia. But Russians think their H-bombs are the only thing protecting them from the USA.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/bomb-ussr-scienti
sts
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Signym, another measurably insane Russian is Putin ally Margarita Simonyan, who posted an ominous message on Tuesday, making a nod to the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962 — a confrontation between the U.S. and then-Soviet Union that almost catapulted a full-scale nuclear war.

In a post shared to her Telegram channel, all Simonyan wrote was "Good evening, 1962."

Her remarks came just hours after Russia launched one of the broadest aerial strikes on Ukraine since the war began — an attack that reportedly included two missiles that spilled into neighboring Poland, killing two people in the NATO country. The attack also affected Moldova, which suffered a massive power outage after a key power line was knocked out by the strike.

Shortly after Tuesday's attack, Simonyan, who heads state-run media outlet RT, casted doubt as to whether the incident on the Polish side involved a missile from Russia, saying, "Before you accuse a country capable of erasing Poland into nuclear ashes, take the trouble to present evidence." Signym, a sane person would not act like Simonyan.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-posts-ominous-message-about-us-con
flict-russia-1759845


There are many more examples of Russian craziness. Killing Ukrainian prisoners of war then claiming the Ukrainians killed the prisoners. If Russians were sane they would either stop killing prisoners or stop making false claims about who the killers are. But Russians can't pick only one or the other because they are crazy

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Wednesday, November 16, 2022 9:34 PM

Witnesses recount detentions, torture, disappearances in occupied Kherson

By Michael E. Miller and Anastacia Galouchka November 14, 2022 at 10:38 a.m. EST
12-15 minutes

KHERSON, Ukraine — Few people paid attention to the drab concrete building, tucked away on a quiet residential street, that had long housed unruly youths behind a high wall and a spool of barbed wire. But after Russian soldiers swept into Kherson in early March, the anonymous building quickly became infamous.

Black sedans with tinted windows and missing license plates arrived at all hours, disgorging Ukrainian detainees with bags over their heads. Screams began to escape the three-story structure, piercing the once-calm neighborhood, residents said.

Sometimes, the gates would open, and a detainee would be dumped on the street, physically and mentally broken. Other captives were sent to a larger prison, or never seen again. “If there is a hell on Earth, it was here,” said Serhiy, 48, who lives across the street and whom The Washington Post is only identifying by first name to protect him from retribution.

Days after Russian forces fled in retreat, surrendering the only regional capital Russia had managed to seize since the start of its invasion, the horrors that occurred in this stately 18th-century port city are just starting to come into focus.

During a visit to the city on Monday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said occupying Russian forces had committed “hundreds” of atrocities in the Kherson area, though he said the precise number was not yet known.

What is already apparent, however, is that the Russians here operated a detention system on a scale not seen in any of the dozens of other cities, towns and villages liberated by Ukrainian forces in recent weeks.

An outline of mass incarceration was already appearing on Saturday and Sunday, when a dozen people told The Post that they had either been detained themselves or were searching for someone who had been taken. Many approached reporters on the street, asking for help in finding their loved ones.

Some Kherson residents were arrested because they were accused of being freedom fighters. Others said locals were locked up because they had Ukrainian tattoos, wore traditional clothing, took selfies standing near Russian troops, or simply dared to say, “Slava Ukraini” — “Glory to Ukraine.”

A mother was arrested in front of her teenage son and held for two months on a suspicion of helping Ukrainian forces.

A 64-year-old man was detained and beaten with a hammer for fighting — eight years ago.

A priest was arrested and sent to Crimea, according to a congregant. Even the mayor was arrested. Still, no one knows where he is.

“We’re talking about thousands of people,” said Oleksandr Samoylenko, head of the regional council of Kherson. “On any given day, the Russians had 600 people in their torture chambers.”

Samoylenko said it would take time to figure out how many people were detained, how many remain missing, and if mass graves, like those found in other liberated areas, would also be discovered here.

“A lot of people have disappeared,” Samoylenko said, adding that he feared the city’s name would soon join the ranks of cities such as Bucha, Irpin and Izyum, which are now synonymous with Russian atrocities.

“It was a nightmare,” he said.

‘Everyone could hear the torture’

What could set Kherson apart is the emerging scale of abuses.

Located where the Dnieper River meets the Black Sea, Kherson, with a prewar population of nearly 300,000, is by far the biggest city to be liberated. It was also the first to be occupied. Of cities that fell under Russian occupation, only Mariupol, which suffered severe destruction and remains under Russian control, is bigger.

And as a regional capital crucial to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s plan to annex the regions of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, Kherson city is a window into the Russian military-administrative machine.

Moscow-backed officials took over the regional administrat

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Wednesday, November 16, 2022 11:10 PM


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!!!

See what I mean?
In another post or two you'll change your mind.
If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you.


SECOND: Signym, you might think you're making sense, but you haven't looked at Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone. The Russians have been in the middle of a mental crisis for decades.
blah blah blah.. will be an excuse to go crazy on another country after Ukraine.

SIGNY: Your problem, SECOND, is that you think of "Russians"... or "Trumptards"... or "Jehovah's Witnesses"... as if they're all the same.

You land on one characteristic ... Russians under the Tsars craved authoritarianism. Or, were backward. Superstitious. What-have-you. And then you apply it to ALL Russians, from time immemorial to the indefinite future.

You land on ANOTHER characteristic... Russians lost too many people fighting WWII .. and you apply THAT to all Russians throughout time and space.

And then you land, like a fly, on yet another characteristic: Russians are traumatized. And you apply it to Russians who suffered thru the breakup of their union and the depredations of the west, to those who never did.

You're dredging up anything negative that you can find and you splatter it liberally, whether it fits or not.

In my observation, SECOND, people who spend as much time AS YOU virtue-signalling how great they are and trying to break others down feel anxious, depressed, and massively guilty about themselves

Why do you feel like shit, SECOND?

****

And now, back to our regularly scheduled topic.

Second: Signym, Russians are measurably crazy.


You see? You're doing it again

You take one example, mind-read the shit out of it, then apply it liberally to an entire group of people.

The only crazy person here is you.

Get yourself fixed, SECOND, or at least stop using this board as your toilet.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2022 11:58 PM

Another lie from Kiev:

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Kyiv Demands Access To Poland Blast Site, Doubles Down On 'Russian Attack' Narrative


Fortunately some PTB pay attention to reality and not malicious allegation.

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Suspected Ukrainian Drone Strikes Fuel Depot Deep In Russian Territory

Wednesday, Nov 16, 2022 - 06:05 PM

Though all eyes have been on the Polish border blast and resulting back-and-forth on who was to responsible, a separate major attack unfolded in southern Russia near the Ukraine border on Wednesday.

Russian authorities described a suspected drone attack after a fuel depot exploded. It took place in Oryol oblast about 125 miles from the Ukrainian border. "Today [Wednesday] at 04:00 [01:00 GMT] a suspected drone blew up a fuel depot in the village of Stalnoi Kon. There were no casualties," the Oryol regional governor said in a statement.
Aftermath of drone attack on fuel depot. Source: ogtrk.ru/Moscow Times

If confirmed that it was a Ukrainian drone attack, it marks a significant escalation, given the distance of the facility from the border.

The AFP/Moscow Times observes, "Most of the attacks occurred against targets only tens of kilometers from the border, which makes Wednesday's incident stand out for taking place deeper into Russian territory."

It's likely Ukrainian retaliation for the ongoing devastating Russian airstrikes seeking to degrade and disable Ukraine's energy infrastructure at a moment frigid winter temperatures approach. Starting last Spring, and in the months that followed, Ukraine's military launched a series of attacks on Russia's next door Belgorod region.

On Tuesday, Kyiv reported many dozens of Russian strikes across the country which hit as far West as Lviv. Zelensky's office cited that the national energy was "critical" after the sustained attacks.

As The Guardian described, "Ukraine’s public broadcaster reported that the strikes targeted Kyiv, Kyiv region, Kharkiv city as well as Poltava, Mykolaiv, Dnipro, Zhytomyr, Khmelnytskiy, Lviv, Volyn, Rivne, Cherkassy, Odesa, Kirovohrad, and Chernihiv regions."

State energy company Ukrenergo announced emergency shutdowns "for all categories of consumers have been introduced" in the northern and central regions, which were the areas which suffered the most immediate damage from the strikes.



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/suspected-ukrainian-drone-strik
es-fuel-depot-deep-within-russian-territory


Well, this is a war after all

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Thursday, November 17, 2022 2:02 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:


You see? You're doing it again

You take one example, mind-read the shit out of it, then apply it liberally to an entire group of people.

The only crazy person here is you.

Get yourself fixed, SECOND, or at least stop using this board as your toilet.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


Signym, is this your response to the story about Russians torturing Ukrainians? That story is here: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11648
10#1164810
I would love for you to deconstruct that story line by line to show how every fact can be proved to be a lie, or illogical, or physically impossible.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, November 17, 2022 2:23 AM

How long do you suppose you're going to keep this thread of lies going on, you Neo-Con bootlicking worm?

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Thursday, November 17, 2022 3:51 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How long do you suppose you're going to keep this thread of lies going on, you Neo-Con bootlicking worm?

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

Very soon Trump will be President. His personal diplomacy brought peace between North Korea and South Korea, convincing North Korea to end its H-bomb program. He'll bring peace between Russia and Ukraine, and convince Russia to end its H-bomb program. Trust Trump.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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