A remarkable and nightmarish scene playing out in Portland should terrify anyone who cares about the US constitution
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Police: 'Umbrella Man' was a white supremacist trying to incite George Floyd rioting
Police say the suspect has been identified, but no charges had been filed as of Tuesday afternoon.
https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacis
t-trying-to-incite-george-floyd-rioting/571932272/
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:I'm not confused at all.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And here you are, RF, confusing Nazism with communism - AGAIN!! Both these were directed at Signy. And I thought you said you knew the difference.
So, if you're going to double down on libel, which do you pick?Quote:
Hitler was a nationalist.Quote:
My, what a complete load of Russian troll nonsense.
It would help if you stopped pretending to know things you obviously don't.
Here's a simple question, comrade. Is Putin a nationalist or a communist?
Sig and kiki constantly show they are ignorant beyond the reasonable. Think about it. They say Hitler was not a nationalist. Nationalism is an idea and movement that promotes the interests of a particular nation over all others. Hitler tried to conquer the world. To place Germany above all others. There are many labels justly hung around his neck. Nationalist, is one that can’t be denied.
Putin is another of these clowns. He has invaded Crimea and Georgia and would continue if he had the resources. He did this to meet his perceived needs to the determent of other countries. Only sig and kiki would believe or promote the idea one can only be either or, a communist or a nationalist.
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
And yet, you just quoted Reaverfan asking if Putin was a nationalist or a communist.
WTF Ted? Do you read before you post something?
But I do take your point. You can be a lot of things in tandem with each other.
Hitler WAS a Nationalist. But so the fuck what? He was also a lot of other things. Many of them not at all good.
Stop playing the Hitler card when arguing something you don't like (or more accurately, don't understand). Hitler loved dogs. Does that make you a fascist if you love dogs too?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Still can't read I see. Try again dummy...
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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The Nazi Party (NSDAP), led by Austrian-born Adolf Hitler, believed in an extreme form of German nationalism. The first point of the Nazi 25-point programme was that "We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the people's right to self-determination". Hitler, an Austrian-German by birth, began to develop his strong patriotic German nationalist views from a very young age. He was greatly influenced by many other Austrian pan-German nationalists in Austria-Hungary, notably Georg Ritter von Schönerer and Karl Lueger. Hitler's pan-German ideas envisioned a Greater German Reich which was to include the Austrian Germans, Sudeten Germans and other ethnic Germans. The annexing of Austria (Anschluss) and the Sudetenland (annexing of Sudetenland) completed Nazi Germany's desire to the German nationalism of the German Volksdeutsche (people/folk).
The Generalplan Ost called for the extermination, expulsion, Germanization or enslavement of most or all Czechs, Poles, Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians for the purpose of providing more living space for the German people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nationalism#:~:text=Nazi%20German
y%2C%201933%E2%80%931945,-See%20also%3A%20Preussentum&text=The%20Nazi%20Party%20(NSDAP)%2C,right%20to%20self%2Ddetermination%22.
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The Ugly Terror of a Fascist Abyss Lurks in the Background of This Pandemic
https://truthout.org/articles/the-ugly-terror-of-a-fascist-abyss-lurks
-in-the-background-of-this-pandemic/
There are lessons to be learned regarding how history is reproduced in the present. First, there is the Trump administration’s caging of children on the southern border. Second, there is Trump’s threat to use “dominating force” and unleash the National Guard and police upon demonstrators peacefully resisting police violence against people of color. Third, as Jason Stanley points out, there is Trump’s relentless language of violence designed both to embolden second amendment gun rights activists toward committing violence and to dehumanize certain populations while attempting “to harness the emotion of nostalgia to the central themes of fascist ideology — authoritarianism, hierarchy, purity and struggle.”
Trump’s authoritarian impulses and fascist politics took a dangerous turn when he authorized the use of unmarked, military-clad federal law enforcement shock troops to round up and detain protesters in Portland, Oregon. The troops offered no proof of identification, drove around in unmarked cars, pulled people off the streets with no probable cause, provided no sense of whose directives they were acting under, or who was to be held accountable for their actions. Ted Wheeler, the mayor of Portland, called such actions “an attack on our democracy.” Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi tweeted in reference to Portland that, “Trump and his storm troopers must be stopped.”
We have seen this before under Hitler, Augusto Pinochet in Chile, and in other dictatorships. When such actions appeared in the past, dissidents, demonstrators and intellectuals disappeared, were beaten, tortured and interrogated in undisclosed sites, and in the worse scenarios, were murdered. What has happened in Portland suggests that the “war on terror” has shifted from abroad to the homeland. Outraged by such actions, Charles Pierce, writing in Esquire, suggests that this may be a trial run for an authoritarian state:
A major American city is being softly Pinochet-ed in broad daylight. And, if we know one thing, if this president and his administration get away with this, it will only get worse … this could be a dry run for the kind of general urban mobilization at which the president has been hinting since this summer’s protests began…. Portland may be a dumbshow for dummies, but it also looks like a dress rehearsal. This is not an “authoritarian impulse.” This is authoritarian government — straight, no chaser. And this administration has a powerful thirst for it. It will do anything if it thinks it can get away with it in order to benefit a president who wants to bring the Republic down on his head. Unmarked vehicles, disappearing people off the streets?
These events mimic, if not recall, an older period in history when Hitler, following the crisis produced by the Reichstag fire, seized upon the ensuing fear, terror and war fever to further consolidate his power. Trump pushing the United States to the edge of fascism in the midst of a pandemic by using the military to stifle domestic protests reinforces the seriousness of growing claims that the United States is moving closer to a full-blown authoritarian state.
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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:I'm not confused at all.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And here you are, RF, confusing Nazism with communism - AGAIN!! Both these were directed at Signy. And I thought you said you knew the difference.
So, if you're going to double down on libel, which do you pick?Quote:
Hitler was a nationalist.Quote:
My, what a complete load of Russian troll nonsense.
It would help if you stopped pretending to know things you obviously don't.
Here's a simple question, comrade. Is Putin a nationalist or a communist?
Sig and kiki constantly show they are ignorant beyond the reasonable. Think about it. They say Hitler was not a nationalist. Nationalism is an idea and movement that promotes the interests of a particular nation over all others. Hitler tried to conquer the world. To place Germany above all others. There are many labels justly hung around his neck. Nationalist, is one that can’t be denied.
Putin is another of these clowns. He has invaded Crimea and Georgia and would continue if he had the resources. He did this to meet his perceived needs to the determent of other countries. Only sig and kiki would believe or promote the idea one can only be either or, a communist or a nationalist.
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
And yet, you just quoted Reaverfan asking if Putin was a nationalist or a communist.
WTF Ted? Do you read before you post something?
But I do take your point. You can be a lot of things in tandem with each other.
Hitler WAS a Nationalist. But so the fuck what? He was also a lot of other things. Many of them not at all good.
Stop playing the Hitler card when arguing something you don't like (or more accurately, don't understand). Hitler loved dogs. Does that make you a fascist if you love dogs too?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Still can't read I see. Try again dummy...
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
This is what you just said, fucktard:
Quote:
Only sig and kiki would believe or promote the idea one can only be either or, a communist or a nationalist.
While quoting a post from MarxistMarco that said this:
Quote:
Here's a simple question, comrade. Is Putin a nationalist or a communist?
So I ask you again, idiot...
Is English your first language?
Don't lie. We already know it's not.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Can YOU answer the question?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So I ask you again, idiot...
Is English your first language?
Don't lie. We already know it's not.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:I'm not confused at all.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And here you are, RF, confusing Nazism with communism - AGAIN!! Both these were directed at Signy. And I thought you said you knew the difference.
So, if you're going to double down on libel, which do you pick?Quote:
Hitler was a nationalist.Quote:
My, what a complete load of Russian troll nonsense.
It would help if you stopped pretending to know things you obviously don't.
Here's a simple question, comrade. Is Putin a nationalist or a communist?
Sig and kiki constantly show they are ignorant beyond the reasonable. Think about it. They say Hitler was not a nationalist. Nationalism is an idea and movement that promotes the interests of a particular nation over all others. Hitler tried to conquer the world. To place Germany above all others. There are many labels justly hung around his neck. Nationalist, is one that can’t be denied.
Putin is another of these clowns. He has invaded Crimea and Georgia and would continue if he had the resources. He did this to meet his perceived needs to the determent of other countries. Only sig and kiki would believe or promote the idea one can only be either or, a communist or a nationalist.
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
And yet, you just quoted Reaverfan asking if Putin was a nationalist or a communist.
WTF Ted? Do you read before you post something?
But I do take your point. You can be a lot of things in tandem with each other.
Hitler WAS a Nationalist. But so the fuck what? He was also a lot of other things. Many of them not at all good.
Stop playing the Hitler card when arguing something you don't like (or more accurately, don't understand). Hitler loved dogs. Does that make you a fascist if you love dogs too?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Still can't read I see. Try again dummy...
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
This is what you just said, fucktard:
Quote:
Only sig and kiki would believe or promote the idea one can only be either or, a communist or a nationalist.
While quoting a post from MarxistMarco that said this:
Quote:
Here's a simple question, comrade. Is Putin a nationalist or a communist?
So I ask you again, idiot...
Is English your first language?
Don't lie. We already know it's not.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:NOT TRUE. I merely pointed out that Lincoln and FDR were ALSO nationalists.
Sig and kiki constantly show they are ignorant beyond the reasonable. Think about it. They say Hitler was not a nationalist.
Quote:If I'm not keeping Americans' interests at the top of my list, then who is at the top instead?
Nationalism is an idea and movement that promotes the interests of a particular nation over all others.
WHOSE interests should I promote over the United States'? China's? Europe's? JPMChase's? Apple's? The CIA's?
What is wrong with keeping Americans' interests at heart?
*****
Just bc someone is a nationalist doesn't mean they're a rabid, globe-conquering megalomaniac (yanno, like Obama, GWB, Clinton, Bush1, and Reagan.) There IS such a thing as "enlightened self interest", and even such a thing a "principled self interest".
I happen to believe that we should keep our interests at the top of the list, but not impose them on others thru violence, for a couple of reasons:
1) I don't believe in using violence except in actual self defense, and
2) Blowback is a serious bitch.
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AMENDMENT TO CURTAIL FEDERAL CRACKDOWN ON PROTESTERS
The amendment would prohibit funds from being used to send federal agents into American cities.
Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Ted Lieu of California are proposing an amendment this week that would prohibit funds from being used to send federal agents into American cities as part of Operation Legend or Operation Relentless Pursuit. Those are Justice Department initiatives that have led brutal crackdowns on protesters in cities like Portland, Oregon. While the Trump administration has framed the dispatching of secret police as efforts meant “to help state and local officials fight the surge of violent crime,” critics such as Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden and Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner have called the tactics “fascist.”
Senator Wyden, along with several other Senate Democrats, also pushed for similar amendment in the Senate, sending a letter to their colleagues in the Appropriations Committee on July 24.
The measure, which was filed as an amendment to the upcoming House Appropriations bill, is co-sponsored by Democratic Reps. Rashida Tlaib, of Michigan, Deb Haaland of New Mexico, and Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri. The House Rules Committee is meeting today to decide which of the hundreds of amendments filed will be considered this week.
More at https://theintercept.com/2020/07/28/ocasio-cortez-lieu-amendment-prote
sts-federal-crackdown/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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