Real World Event Discussions

A remarkable and nightmarish scene playing out in Portland should terrify anyone who cares about the US constitution

POSTED BY: reaverfan
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 2, 2026 18:21
VIEWED: 55784
PAGE 22 of 93

Tuesday, July 28, 2020 1:49 AM

Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-
attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa


Over the same time period, American white supremacists and other rightwing extremists have carried out attacks that left at least 329 victims dead, according to the database.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

THG
Tuesday, July 28, 2020 1:50 AM



It’s been awhile since I’ve posted in this fashion because I won’t give the trollers the satisfaction of a response, except on occasion a short and to the point one.

I’ve not chatted with you so I’ll do it once and see what you’re about.


Quote:

Originally posted by OLDGUY:

pulling the rabbit out of the big hate box for a minute...back to the OP.
stories that I'm not seeing are around the folks who have homes, and small businesses, etc that have been caught right in the middle of all this.

I see them all the time so I don’t know what you use for sources. I also see the democrats try and get transparency on who is taking the small business loans to scare away those who should not seek them.

I see the republicans block that. I’m sure you can imagine the effect that has had.


And here's a headline that won't help the situation.


Republicans Would Cut Unemployment Payments in Virus Relief Plan. To, 200$

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-would-cut-unemploy
ment-payments-in-virus-relief-plan/ar-BB17f5Uf?ocid=msedgntp


I can only imagine how maddening it must be to have lived someplace all your life, poured your finances and your sweat n blood into a biz, etc and then have to cower in fear every night, as the craziness goes on.

Watching your local mayor, etc refuse to provide any protections, and then opening the mail box each day to find that the bank wants the mortgage paid.

Agreed. However, the democrats passed a bill in the house to deal with this two months ago. Only in the past week or so has the republicans’ decided to begin discussing it amongst themselves. All the while not seeking any input from the dems. As we've seen, that's not going to work.

some harsher comments I see, those people voted these polticians/policies into power, so now they have to live with their decisions, etc...

Admittedly this doesn’t help. Although, voting them out of office will.

but i just can only imagine the nightmare of watching the politicals and media keep running the story that this is about free speech and that it's just peaceful protests.. I mean, I can see the videos for myself..it's violent, it's deliberate and obvious in its real reasons.

We can’t blame the Media for what people say when asked why they won’t wear a mask? Research now shows it makes a tremendous difference and would dramatically repress the surge in cases. This in turn would allow for more states to get back to work. It’s a win win. Wearing a mask is about buying time until a vaccine is found. This makes the question an important one to keep asking.

Not wearing one, and promoting that point of view, is stupid stupid.


I'd like to know , if I lived in Portland, that someone from America might be rolling in to save me.

First of all, the protesters are Americans. Secondly, they are mostly white. And yes, it’s time for them to stop. They are only hurting their cause, if the worst of them actually have a cause.

And remember, according to the elected officials in Portland, the protestors were going home until Trump sent in the troops.


now, disclaimer, I'm against the 5am no-knocks, I' against the ABC departments rolling full SWAT outfitted agents in to a business like Gibson guitar to strongarm a company over what consitutes a "completed product" from India

Federal marshals raided the Gibson Guitar Corporation in Tennessee. It wasn't the first time. The government appears to be preparing to charge the famous builder of instruments with trafficking in illegally obtained wood. It's a rare collision of music and environmental regulation.

A different topic entirely, and if true I have no problem with it.


and I'm

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, July 28, 2020 1:59 AM

And here you are, RF, confusing Nazism with communism - AGAIN!! Both these were directed at Signy. And I thought you said you knew the difference.


So, if you're going to double down on libel, which do you pick?

Quote:

Hitler was a nationalist.
Quote:

My, what a complete load of Russian troll nonsense.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, July 28, 2020 2:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

America's Major Cities Are Being Turned Into War Zones, And It's Not Going To End In November

Michael Snyder via TheMostImportantNews.com,

The civil unrest that we witnessed all across America this weekend was extremely alarming. For a few weeks, it seemed like the chaos that erupted in the immediate aftermath of the tragic death of George Floyd was subsiding, but in recent days there has been a dramatic resurgence. Within the last 48 hours, there have been eruptions of violence in major cities such as Seattle, Portland, Atlanta, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Oakland, Louisville, Austin and Richmond. At this point we have seen sustained protests and rioting for nearly two months straight, and it looks like the chaos isn’t going to disappear any time soon.

Over the past few weeks, a few people have written me emails suggesting that the civil unrest will disappear if Joe Biden wins the election in November.

But I don’t believe that this is true. Virtually all of the rioting is happening in cities that are controlled by Democrats, and the leftist politicians that run those cities do not have any control over the Marxist protesters at all.

For example, just look at what has been happening in Seattle and Portland. The politicians that run those cities are radical Democrats, and yet those radical Democrats have been completely and utterly unable to end the violence. The following comes from the Daily Mail…

The streets of Seattle turned violent Saturday when protesters set fire to a youth detention center and a police precinct. Other protesters threw rocks, bottles, fireworks and other explosives at cops, with the unrest leading local authorities to declare protests had turned into ‘riots that afternoon’.

Portland geared up for its 59th night of unrest Saturday with swathes of demonstrators marching from the federal building to the Portland Marriott where they believe federal officers are staying, in the wake of a violent night Friday that ended with at least one person stabbed.


To me, it is absolutely amazing that Portland has had 59 days of protests in a row.

One man that actually lives in downtown Portland says that his neighborhood has essentially been turned into “a war zone”…

Gabriel Johnson has lived in the Essex House Apartments in downtown Portland for seven years. He has loved it — until now.

“I compare it to a war zone and some people will take that and say he must be exaggerating but no,” said Johnson.

Johnson said he is kept awake by the nightly demonstrations taking place just two blocks from his home. The sounds of fireworks and flash bangs, he said, are overwhelming. The tear gas is bad, too.


And Johnson certainly knows what a “war zone” is like, because he is actually a military veteran.

Elsewhere, two very heavily armed militia groups nearly came face to face in Louisville, Kentucky this weekend

More than 300 members of the Atlanta-based Black militia NFAC, or “Not ******* Around Coalition” came to Louisville demanding justice for 26-year-old Breonna Taylor, an ER technician who was fatally shot by officers in March.

The group came close to 50 far-right “Three Percenter” militia members, who were also heavily armed. Police kept the sides apart and tensions eventually dissipated.

My threshold for the shit hitting the fan is when guns come out and people start shooting. We came very close to that.
Quote:

If just one person had gotten an itchy trigger finger, that situation could have gotten out of control very rapidly.

But there was one unfortunate incident when a member of the NFAC accidentally had a gun discharge…

Police confirmed three members of the NFAC were struck by gunfire when someone’s gun discharged while participating in a demonstration Saturday. All three victims went to a hospital with non-life-threate

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, July 28, 2020 2:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'll give you a little tip, Ted.

Don't go looking for Blackwater. They don't go by that name anymore.



You all should also keep in mind that some of the genius Democrat leaders of these cities have come out and said that the police should be defunded and that money should instead be spent on private security firms.


This is a very, very bad idea. You don't want heavily armed private security companies running the streets no matter what level of government is funding them. It's like a Dick Cheney wet dream.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I saw that movie. Was it Robocop? or Judge Dredd? Or some other really bad flik?

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, July 28, 2020 2:25 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_the_50_largest_cities_
in_the_United_States


Of the 50 largest cities in the US only about a quarter of them have republican mayors. They are San Diego (naval bases), Jacksonville (military bases), Fort Worth (military bases), El Paso, Oklahoma City (military bases), Fresno, Mesa, Omaha, Colorado Springs (this city only exists due to multiple military bases), Miami, Virginia Beach, Tulsa, and Arlington are republican. But all the the very largest cities are democratic.

I only looked up San Diego and Jacksonville because I need to get on with my day - but indeed those 2 'republican' cities have had demonstrations/ protests/ riots.

The take-home message is that these demonstrations/ protests/ riots aren't a democratic mayor v republican mayor phenomenon.

When it comes to 'sanctuary cities', regrettably, California is a sanctuary state. But these CA cities have their own sanctuary laws: Berkeley, Coachella, Huntington Beach, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seaside. But San Fran, Coachella, and Seaside have had no protests.

Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Vermont, and Washington are all sanctuary states to some degree.

Of the other states that either have not taken a stance or have banned sanctuary laws, Arizona (Phoenix), Iowa (Des Moines), Maryland (Baltimore), Michigan (Detroit, Kalamazoo, Flint, and Ann Arbor), Missouri (Ferguson) ... have all had demonstrations/ protests/ riots ...

... at this point, I'm stopping.

Pretty obviously, it's not a matter of sanctuary cities being a problem, either.




Poor Portland has become the turf on which a proxy war is being fought.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, July 28, 2020 2:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'll give you a little tip, Ted.

Don't go looking for Blackwater. They don't go by that name anymore.



You all should also keep in mind that some of the genius Democrat leaders of these cities have come out and said that the police should be defunded and that money should instead be spent on private security firms.


This is a very, very bad idea. You don't want heavily armed private security companies running the streets no matter what level of government is funding them. It's like a Dick Cheney wet dream.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Please show us where ANYONE ON THE LEFT EVER SAID we should spend money on private security firms.

You can't. Your brain is completely shot.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:10 AM

That was hard to find. Not...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/29/police-me-not-thee/



Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


I'm a nationalist, THG, not a "globalist". Being a nationalist may be counter to the Trotskyist vision of the future, but that's what I am. I've never had anything but AMERICA'S interests at heart.


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

Hitler was a nationalist.




So the fuck what?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:07 AM

Quote:

SIGNYM:
I'm a nationalist, THG, not a "globalist". Being a nationalist may be counter to the Trotskyist vision of the future, but that's what I am. I've never had anything but AMERICA'S interests at heart.


REVERBOT: Hitler was a nationalist.



So were Lincoln and FDR.
If I'm not a nationalist, if I don't owe allegiance to the USA and care about our national interests, then to whom am I owing allegiance? China? Apple? JPMChase? NATO? "The World"?

Your allegiance is to someone or something, REAVERBOT, I just don't think it's to America, or Americans.

And quite honestly, I wonder about the rioters' allegiances as well.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME