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Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?
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Saturday, May 23, 2020 4:02 PM
Quote:6ixStringJack, you are an Einstein -- intelligent, yet humble, despite being nearly always right.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No.
I'm simply pointing out that your opinion about everything is wrong, and Karen's opinion about the virus is wrong.
It's not grandeur. There's no prize to be had here. There's no reason for me to feel accomplished about being right here. It's easy to be right in an argument when you're matching wits with idiots.
Feeling any sense of pride on my part here would be like feeling proud that I successfully wiped my ass after I took a shit this morning.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
From The Ultimate Quotable Einstein:
“I believe in Spinoza's God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.”
This was Einstein’s answer to Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein's telegram, published in the New York Times, April 25,1929. (Spinoza reasoned that God and the material world are indistinguishable; the better one understands how the universe works, the closer one comes to God.) Goldstein felt this answer was evidence that Einstein was not an atheist. See Rowe and Schulmann, Einstein on Politics, 17. Einstein Archives 33-272
https://books.google.com/books?id=G_iziBAPXtEC&pg=PA325
Spinoza writes against “those who feign a God, like man, consisting of a body and a mind, and subject to passions. But how far they wander from the true knowledge of God, is sufficiently established by what has already been demonstrated.” Besides being false, such an anthropomorphic conception of God standing as judge over us can have only deleterious effects on human freedom and activity, insofar as it fosters a life enslaved to hope and fear and the superstitions to which such emotions give rise.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spinoza/
Einstein’s and Spinoza’s God is not the anthropomorphic, fatherly God who cares about humanity. The existence of Covid-19 does not disprove the existence of Einstein's God.
World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. An estimated total of 70–85 million people perished, which is about 1% of the 2020 world population (est. 7.8 billion). It happens that 1% is also about the death rate for people who catch Covid-19, which makes it no worse than WWII. This is the world where God permits both.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:29 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ixStringJack, you are an Einstein -- intelligent, yet humble, despite being nearly always right.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No.
I'm simply pointing out that your opinion about everything is wrong, and Karen's opinion about the virus is wrong.
It's not grandeur. There's no prize to be had here. There's no reason for me to feel accomplished about being right here. It's easy to be right in an argument when you're matching wits with idiots.
Feeling any sense of pride on my part here would be like feeling proud that I successfully wiped my ass after I took a shit this morning.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
From The Ultimate Quotable Einstein:
“I believe in Spinoza's God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.”
This was Einstein’s answer to Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein's telegram, published in the New York Times, April 25,1929. (Spinoza reasoned that God and the material world are indistinguishable; the better one understands how the universe works, the closer one comes to God.) Goldstein felt this answer was evidence that Einstein was not an atheist. See Rowe and Schulmann, Einstein on Politics, 17. Einstein Archives 33-272
https://books.google.com/books?id=G_iziBAPXtEC&pg=PA325
Spinoza writes against “those who feign a God, like man, consisting of a body and a mind, and subject to passions. But how far they wander from the true knowledge of God, is sufficiently established by what has already been demonstrated.” Besides being false, such an anthropomorphic conception of God standing as judge over us can have only deleterious effects on human freedom and activity, insofar as it fosters a life enslaved to hope and fear and the superstitions to which such emotions give rise.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spinoza/
Einstein’s and Spinoza’s God is not the anthropomorphic, fatherly God who cares about humanity. The existence of Covid-19 does not disprove the existence of Einstein's God.
World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. An estimated total of 70–85 million people perished, which is about 1% of the 2020 world population (est. 7.8 billion). It happens that 1% is also about the death rate for people who catch Covid-19, which makes it no worse than WWII. This is the world where God permits both.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
What is the point of this post?
You seem to change your entire thought processes from day to day, hour to hour and minute to minute.
Which Second am I talking to now?
Is this due to the ebb and flow of pharmaceuticals that the doctor has you on?
There is zero substance to any opinion you have on any topic because you have no core values and you are a walking self-contradiction machine.
It leaves us wondering that of all of the people who used to post here vs. the 8 or so that still post, why are we still stuck with you?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Monday, May 25, 2020 4:56 PM
Quote:Heisenberg recollected a conversation among young participants at the 1927 Solvay Conference about Einstein and Planck's views on religion between Wolfgang Pauli, Heisenberg and Dirac. Dirac's contribution was a criticism of the political purpose of religion, which Bohr regarded as quite lucid. Among other things, Dirac said:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There is zero substance to any opinion you have on any topic because you have no core values and you are a walking self-contradiction machine.
It leaves us wondering that of all of the people who used to post here vs. the 8 or so that still post, why are we still stuck with you?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I cannot understand why we idle discussing religion. If we are honest—and scientists have to be—we must admit that religion is a jumble of false assertions, with no basis in reality. The very idea of God is a product of the human imagination. It is quite understandable why primitive people, who were so much more exposed to the overpowering forces of nature than we are today, should have personified these forces in fear and trembling. But nowadays, when we understand so many natural processes, we have no need for such solutions. I can't for the life of me see how the postulate of an Almighty God helps us in any way. What I do see is that this assumption leads to such unproductive questions as why God allows so much misery and injustice, the exploitation of the poor by the rich and all the other horrors He might have prevented. If religion is still being taught, it is by no means because its ideas still convince us, but simply because some of us want to keep the lower classes quiet. Quiet people are much easier to govern than clamorous and dissatisfied ones. They are also much easier to exploit. Religion is a kind of opium that allows a nation to lull itself into wishful dreams and so forget the injustices that are being perpetrated against the people. Hence the close alliance between those two great political forces, the State and the Church. Both need the illusion that a kindly God rewards—in heaven if not on earth—all those who have not risen up against injustice, who have done their duty quietly and uncomplainingly. That is precisely why the honest assertion that God is a mere product of the human imagination is branded as the worst of all mortal sins.
More at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Dirac#Religious_views
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Monday, May 25, 2020 7:03 PM
lol
So... what? You decided to wake up this morning and quote another elitist cunt who thinks he has all of the answers in the universe?
He certainly seemed rather sure of himself. Usually those types hide behind the word "theory" so they have an out when they're wrong.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Monday, May 25, 2020 7:44 PM
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Monday, May 25, 2020 7:55 PM
Quote:6ix, you have made it clear many times that you are the anti-social justice warrior. Both State and Church want you to believe that a kindly God rewards—in heaven if not on earth—all those who have not risen up against injustice, who remain quiet and uncomplaining. That is precisely why the honest assertion that God is a mere product of the human imagination is branded as the worst of all mortal sins.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
So... what? You decided to wake up this morning and quote another elitist cunt who thinks he has all of the answers in the universe?
He certainly seemed rather sure of himself. Usually those types hide behind the word "theory" so they have an out when they're wrong.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Monday, May 25, 2020 8:09 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you have made it clear many times that you are the anti-social justice warrior. Both State and Church want you to believe that a kindly God rewards—in heaven if not on earth—all those who have not risen up against injustice, who remain quiet and uncomplaining. That is precisely why the honest assertion that God is a mere product of the human imagination is branded as the worst of all mortal sins.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
So... what? You decided to wake up this morning and quote another elitist cunt who thinks he has all of the answers in the universe?
He certainly seemed rather sure of himself. Usually those types hide behind the word "theory" so they have an out when they're wrong.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Anybody who is sane is anti social justice warrior.
As for religion, everybody has their own. There doesn't have to be a benevolent bearded dude in the clouds and a scary horned demon welcoming you with fire for it to be a religion.
In your religion, Trump is the Devil, Texas Republicans are his minions, FDR is God, SJWs are his warriors and Obama was a Saint.
Do yourself a favor and stop talking to me as if I was a believer. I'm not.
I'm just disgusted by people who think they have all of the answers to life and of things they couldn't ever possibly know while sharing the same oxygen I breathe.
I do believe in karma though. You're just about due to be fucked after all the fucking you've done to get where you are.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Monday, May 25, 2020 10:46 PM
Quote:Bush and Trump are fools. One quick example: Bush killed 1 nuclear treaty, Trump killed 3 and he is building more nukes. Republican Presidents depend on God to protect them from their own dangerous decisions:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
In your religion, Trump is the Devil, Texas Republicans are his minions, . . .
1) On 13 December 2001, George W. Bush gave Russia notice of the United States' withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.
2) New START
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_START#Future
Vladimir Putin inquired about extending New START. President Trump attacked the treaty, claiming that it favored Russia and was "one of several bad deals negotiated by the Obama administration".
3) Open Skies
www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/politics/trump-open-skies-treaty-arms-co
ntrol.html
President Trump has decided to withdraw from another major arms control accord, he and other officials said Thursday, and will inform Russia that the United States is pulling out of the Open Skies Treaty, negotiated three decades ago.
4) Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/08/02/what-does-the-demise-of-the-i-n-f
-treaty-mean-for-nuclear-arms-control-intermediate-nuclear-forces-new-start-strategic-arms-limitation-nonproliferation-trump-russia-arms-control-explained/
The U.S. military is seeking funding and authorization to begin developing intermediate-range missiles that otherwise would have been barred by the INF Treaty.
Trump says US will beat out Russia and China with 'super duper missile'
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/15/super-duper-missile-us-trump-m
ilitary
“You take the fastest missile we have right now,” Trump said. “You heard Russia has five times and China’s working on five or six times, we have one 17 times and it’s just got the go-ahead.” God knows what an idiot Trump is.
“Three years after entering office, the Trump administration lacks a coherent set of goals, a strategy to achieve them, or the personnel or effective policy process to address the most complex set of nuclear risks in US history,” a group of arms control experts wrote in a report this month by the disarmament group, Global Zero. “Put simply, the current US administration is blundering toward nuclear chaos with potentially disastrous consequences.”
www.globalzero.org/blundering-toward-nuclear-chaos-2020/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:10 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Bush and Trump are fools.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
In your religion, Trump is the Devil, Texas Republicans are his minions, . . .
Yeah. You say that... but tomorrow, or quite possibly even some time today you're going to talk about how evil he is from the other side of your mouth.
He can't be an evil fascist overlord and be an idiot at the same time whenever it suits your ever-shifting narrative and core beliefs.
Pick one.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:28 PM
Quote:A leader can be more than one thing. For example: Adolph Hitler was the Allies' secret weapon against . . . Germany.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. You say that... but tomorrow, or quite possibly even some time today you're going to talk about how evil he is from the other side of your mouth.
He can't be an evil fascist overlord and be an idiot at the same time whenever it suits your ever-shifting narrative and core beliefs.
Pick one.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Hitler’s seemingly unerring political, military, and diplomatic judgment fed a messianic conviction of his invincibility. When mixed with dictatorial power and a growing propensity to react to strategic differences with towering rages, the result proved a fatal brew—one that had the ironic effect over time of turning Hitler into one of the Allies’ most effective weapons. At almost every point where an important decision was required, the Nazi leader could be counted on to make the one that inadvertently benefited the Allied cause, and helped to doom his own. A complete catalog of Hitler’s failures as a war chief could fill a thick volume; a dubious honor roll of the worst of them follows:
www.historynet.com/hitlers-greatest-blunders.htm/3
Also www.google.com/search?q=Hitler's+blunders+during+WWII
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