new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Futures Hug The Flatline As Traders Try To Make Sense Of Latest Coronavirus Updates
Is China restarting supply chains, as it vowed it would, or is it pretending to do so amid fears that pandemic is spreading out of control?
Dudes - OF COURSE the virus has never been under control! Or, as Ellie said in Jurassic Park "You never had control, that's the illusion!"
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/10/coronavirus-latest-updates.html
1:35 pm: Gottlieb says screening and fist bumps over handshakes will help protect against coronavirus
Coronavirus is spreading in Hong Kong, Thailand, and Singapore. Community spread is suspected in other nations. Models suggest that for every person who traveled into the U.S. infected with coronavirus, and who was successfully diagnosed and quarantined, maybe three more arrived undetected. It was only toward the end of January that we started to even look for sick travelers. Singapore, where community spread seems to be taking route, has about as many travelers arriving from China as the U.S. does — around 3 million a year. It’s understandable that small outbreaks might become evident in that small and dense island nation of 5.7 million before they can be spotted in the U.S. But if one assumes that the virus was also imported into U.S. communities in low numbers in early January, and is now replicating, more cases could emerge. — Gottlieb
10:34 am: WHO officials say 15% of all patients get pneumonia
The World Health Organization’s Dr. Sylvia Briand told reporters the disease produces mild cold symptoms in about 80% of the cases they’ve seen so far. About 15% of the people who have contracted the virus have ended up with pneumonia, with 3% to 5% of all patients needing intensive care. — Kopecki
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-coronavirus-spread-outside-of-ch
ina-is-at-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-says-who-chief-2020-02-10
‘The detection of a small number of cases may indicate more widespread transmission in other countries; in short we may only be seeing the tip of the iceberg.’
Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, World Health Organization
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I can really see that google has jinked its search engine (even on duckduckgo) because when I do a web search for coronavirus w/ duckduckgo I get page after page of officialdom links - mostly to the CDC.
So, searching with gibiru, I get far more actual news.
I'm glad to note we're seeing at least SOME mention of the pandemic potential of asymptomatic/ weakly symptomatic infectious people in the general population. But what took them so long?
BTW, in case anyone is wondering why I keep posting updates - I can tell you it's not out of fear, or even anxiety. Things related to medicine is an area I've been interested in, and following, for as long as I can remember (ever since I was well under 5, sitting on the floor with a nursing textbook on my lap, looking at the pictures). And as you may have noticed, I've been drawing conclusions, and making observations and predictions the whole time - and also testing them against subsequent news. And ...
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IIRC, one day last week it was announced that the first case in America was released from the hospital, and still none of the other cases resulted in fatality.
Then the next day, it was announced the only known American with the case in Wuhan has died, never being allowed to escape.
Quite the contrast.
Regarding testing, has there been any word of a practice of taking samples which cannot be tested now, due to lack of kits, and then having them later to test retroactively and learn about how this virus works/spreads/presents in the population?
I'm assuming all tested samples are destroyed - such as this 80-yeaar-old who went to the hospital before boarding the cruise ship. I forget if he/she has died.
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Yes, they also take iirc nose swabs and mouth(??) swabs for later testing, to help them develop a timeline of infection and potential infectious route. (BTW an entire Chinese family of 9 was infected by one family member after they all shared a hot-pot meal together, so saliva transmission might also be possible.) I imagine they could be doing these kinds of samples serially, even though I've seen nothing about that. I wouldn't be surprise if they also took serial blood samples to test for the presence of virus and titer (concentration) of antibodies over time. I believe they want to later compare test results to who's symptomatic, who's being held for itinerary reasons, who's positive, who's negative. I'm sorry that I can't address specifically what they're doing irl aside from the swabs, but I can imagine what they would be doing at a minimum by what I would be doing, if I was them.
In my experience, normal routine medical samples are disposed of after anywhere between 24 hours and a month. They're stored appropriately in either a biohazard frig or freezer in case there's a problem that needs to be resolved with re-analysis. But research samples are often stored in liquid nitrogen (historically in -80C /dry ice temperature/ freezers) and held for long periods of time.
But that's the US/ CDC.
ETA: What they're doing in Japan or China I couldn't say.
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I would trust Japan to do the reasonable, sensible thing.
Not China. They've got 1.4 Billion people to whittle down.
I think I heard of one person dying ooutside China, in Phillipines.
Did I miss any other deaths outside China?
If I understand correctly, Japan does not have abundant housing or space for such quarantine zones or facilities. Cruise ship is likely their best option for holding 4,000 people.
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JSF, I do try to answer your questions and I believe in general your i-net connection is bunk (not just to fff), but I can't devote a whole lot of time to running down things you'd like to know or seem to want definitive confirmation/ refutation for. Sorry about that.
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Coronavirus death toll tops 1,000 as U.S. confirms 13th case - Axios
https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-latest-developments-8b8990c4-6762- 494a-8ee0-5091746bda9b.html
15 hours ago ... A person evacuated to San Diego from China was confirmed by the CDC Monday night to be the 13th novel coronavirus case in the U.S., as the death toll rose to ..
https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-latest-developments-8b8990c4-6762-49
4a-8ee0-5091746bda9b.html
Under investigation: 37 U.S. states report 398 (cumulative total) patients under investigation, of whom 68 are pending and 318 were found negative, the CDC said Monday. The CDC has begun shipping to state and local health authorities diagnostic tests that provide results in four hours.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
IIRC, one day last week it was announced that the first case in America was released from the hospital, and still none of the other cases resulted in fatality.
Then the next day, it was announced the only known American with the case in Wuhan has died, never being allowed to escape.
Quite the contrast.
I'm wondering why in 2020 anybody would trust the media to tell us the truth about anything anymore.
Expect nothing more but further confusion on this issue, to the point of driving you to insanity if you allow it to. You've got not one, not two, but now dozens of countries and their various ideological governments, and their Legacy Media outlets spreading both information and disinformation at the same time. The two biggest proven liars, China and the United States, leading the pack.
At this point, all you can really do is hope that this was a huge nothing burger like most of these things end up being in retrospect.
The only thing we have learned in the last few weeks is that if there ever was a truly deadly outbreak, something on an extinction level event, that everybody getting paid the big bucks who is supposed to prevent that from ever happening is absolutely terrible at their jobs and probably aren't even competent enough to work along side me stocking shelves overnight.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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With a 2.5% fataltiy rate, this would not be an extinction-level event. It would be just the old and pulmonary-compromised people (like me) who would be sickled off the end of the population-curve.
Now, if this were Ebola (60-90+% fatality rate, and the last big scare) ... THAT would be a near-extinction-level event!
What an outbreak of NOCOV-19 across the world would do is disrupt economies immensely, as people "hunkered down" and tried to reverse-quarantine. Since most people don't have the resources (either food or money) to stay at home for anything more than a day or two ... doomed to failure.
Curiously, the Mormons would probably fare well. Apparently they have this "thing" about storing food at home and institutionally (in the Church) for emergencies.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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