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Seattle Has Figured Out How to End the War on Drugs

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 4:04 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Maybe so. Prison/jail time is not a solution. It doesn't cure addiction..



It's not supposed to. It's supposed to keep them from shitting ALL OVER THE STREETS and leaving used needles everywhere and limit the spread of diseases which are at epidemic levels on the west coast right now. Not to mention the crime that comes with an untamed population of drug addicts. I'm sorry they have a disease, but allowing them to inflict the rest of the population with their filth isn't fair and isn't the answer, either.

NOT taking them to jail causes its own problems.


They estimate there are 150,000 vagrants on S.C. streets.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7396585/Californias-homeless-
crisis-engulfs-capital-Sacramentos-people-confront-naked-junkies.html

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 5:10 AM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


There is no testing for weed that is legitimate, so they won't be able to test for driving while high since you could have smoked 3 weeks ago and you will still come up dirty.

Allergic reactions to weed don't count. Peanuts are great. People die from peanuts.

All of those studies about people driving high and killing somebody are flawed. Those people were also drunk or on another substance at the same time.

You're an idiot.





I see every study that doesn't say weed is the best thing ever you are still disagreeing with out of hand, just like Chump does with "fake news", and because science is haaaarrrrd, man

I'm sure the families of the two people who died would say they counted, but then again, YOU ARE A NARCISSIST so no one else counts in your world.

And, I'm guessing you don't know this, but people who drive high quite frequently admit to driving high BECAUSE THEY ARE HIGH. Yes, your own words may be used against you....SURPRISE!


I'm STILL less of an idiot THAN YOU. I've never been high and I've never even been drunk. Never needed to be... That makes me five wasted years smarter than you or kiki



Why is it always about "who is better" with you?

You like to call everybody else a narcissist all the time, but you really seem to think that you're the best thing ever and you really seem to enjoy getting into pissing contests everyday.

Just sayin'

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Why is it always about "who is better" with you?

You like to call everybody else a narcissist all the time, but you really seem to think that you're the best thing ever and you really seem to enjoy getting into pissing contests everyday.

Just sayin'



You called ME an idiot twice in one post.

I'm pointing out HOW I'm not the idiot here and once again TRUTH HURTS YOU.

I don't call everyone a narcissist, just narcissists. And you are one. I've never been more sure about anything in my entire life.

If you don't want to get into a pissing contest, YOU SHOULD ZIP UP YOUR PANTS AND WALK AWAY

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 2:33 PM

We were all having a rational conversation in here for once.

Then you showed up, Nilbog.

Just go away.

Nobody here wants you around anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 8:25 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Nobody here wants you around anymore.




Can't get through a single post without trying to speak "for everyone".

Narcissist Playbook!

NO conversation with you is rational

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 9:50 PM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Can't get through a single post without trying to speak "for everyone".

If you're speaking for 'families' you absolutely don't know, couldn't mention a single name from, and wouldn't recognize on the street if they came up to you and said hello ... does that count as being from the 'Narcissist Playbook!' too?
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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
I'm sure the families of the two people who died would say they counted, but then again, YOU ARE A NARCISSIST so no one else counts in your world.

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 9:51 PM

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Seattle courthouse drowning in waste, but cleaning it up would be… racist?

When two Seattle, Washington judges asked the local authorities to clean up garbage and human waste from the homeless camp outside their courthouse, one council member worried that power-washing the sidewalks might be racist.

The King County courthouse in downtown Seattle is located near the social service centers and several homeless shelters. A tent city has sprung up in the little park outside. There have been several assaults on courthouse employees, and even two attacks on jurors In May and June, leading to citizens summoned for jury duty to voice concerns about their safety.

Judges Laura Inveen and Jim Rogers, backed by King County Sheriff John Urquhart, asked the county to do something about it, the Seattle Times reported last month. Among their requests was a daily power-wash of the sidewalks, which “reek of urine and excrement.”

Council member Larry Gossett, however, objected because power-washing “brought back images of the use of hoses against civil-rights activists,” according to the Times.

Seattle is trying to figure out how to clean poop off their streets but A Democrat Councilman doesn’t like the idea of using a pressure washer hose because it reminds him of hoses used against civil rights activists...

You can’t make this stuff up. Insane. https://t.co/fxqdvmRYa2
— Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) August 27, 2019

High-pressure water hoses were used by police in Birmingham, Alabama against civil rights protesters back in 1963. They have also been used to wash sidewalks in most American cities on a daily basis ever since, without being accused of racism.

But this is 2019, when everything is racist – the New York Times says so – and anyone who doesn’t call it out is assumed to be an enabler, according to the rules of the “woke” cancel culture. So, the sidewalks of Seattle must remain covered in human waste, lest someone get offended.
Also on rt.com Complaints soar as San Francisco drowns in human waste

While it was conservative pundits who brought up this month-old item from the local crime blotter to national attention, calling it a perfect illustration of “peak liberalism,” the notion that garbage and excrement somehow represent social justice ought to be offensive to pretty much everyone.

“Gossett’s concern here is nothing short of insane,” wrote Kat Timpf in National Review. “What else are you going to do — not wash them? Because I really, really reject the idea that leaving sidewalks covered with human bodily waste is the less offensive move in this (or any) situation.”

Timpf was not alone in that sentiment, as legions of social media users had a field day with the councilman’s claim. Would using water hoses to put out fires be racist? Or tying a boat to a dock, since that involves making a noose? Make sure you don’t use brooms, either, because that would be offensive to witches!

“This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard,” one commenter wrote on Twitter. “And they will all wonder how Trump was re-elected,” added another.


https://www.rt.com/usa/467415-seattle-courthouse-excrement-racist/

I think the original article implies that Seattle has scaled back its war on HOMELESS drug addicts.

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A 2017 peer-reviewed study found that drug users assigned to LEAD were 58 percent less likely to be rearrested, compared with a control group. Participants were also almost twice as likely to have housing as they had been before entering LEAD, and 46 percent more likely to be employed or getting job training...

... outside the courthouse in downtown Seattle where Satterberg has his offices, drug users continue to be homeless and feed their habits.

You’ve got a guy shooting heroin on the street...

There was never a "war on drugs" in the homes of suburbanites or rich urbanites, who snort, swallow, inject, or smoke whatever they want in the privacy afforded by their four walls. The "war on drugs" has always been about urban poor, and e

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 9:53 PM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Maybe so. Prison/jail time is not a solution. It doesn't cure addiction..



It's not supposed to. It's supposed to keep them from shitting ALL OVER THE STREETS and leaving used needles everywhere and limit the spread of diseases which are at epidemic levels on the west coast right now.



"epidemic levels on the west coast right now"

Isn't that proof that incarceration doesn't work?

Fight the source instead and don't just throw people in a hole. They won't stay in there forever/will come out eventually - then what?

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Not to mention the crime that comes with an untamed population of drug addicts. I'm sorry they have a disease, but allowing them to inflict the rest of the population with their filth isn't fair and isn't the answer, either.



Definitely no perfect answer. If it were me, I would throw Dealers in a hole and close it over. Profiting from someone else's life threatening addiction should be their life in prison. Same goes for the makers.

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
NOT taking them to jail causes its own problems.



It sure does - drug addiction is a BEAST. No easy answer.

I know someone who has been addicted to opioids for many years. A tale of great woe and frustration. Once they were hooked you could just see them circling the drain. Everything that was tried only bought them a little more time until that craving took over again. No kind of rehab has worked. No jail time has worked. Getting them jobs and support and they still lie and steal from family to get that high. A lot of people gave up including parents and family. The drug never gives up.

There are other drugs to fight the cravings and maybe that's another part of a big solution. Prisons just make it worse imho.

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Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:20 PM

I think methadone figures into Portugal's success.

ETA: methadone (75%), bupropion and naltrexone (balance)

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Friday, August 30, 2019 1:17 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

Can't get through a single post without trying to speak "for everyone".



I think it's logical that if someone dies from an allergic reaction to smoking a little weed, they probably have a family member that's pretty bummed about that.

What planet do you come from that that ISN'T logical??

Oh, wait, you were just trying to stretch a conclusion again... Go find something to do, stupid.

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