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Elections 2020, Hey Jack, I Was Right. Trump And The Republicans Lost Big Time

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Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:07 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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I believe that there's a subclass of this new aggressive white nationalist movement, and I put it to white men who are OUTRAGED! that their specialness just hasn't been rewarded in a manner they deem appropriate! They're built head to toe out of frustrated entitlement.
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Originally posted by JACK:
posted without the least bit of irony or self-recognition



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I know full well who I am.

I'm not going to be the one regretting my behavior in the first half of 2020 when this is over.

You're going to have a pretty hard time looking into a mirror though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:53 AM

Meh.

I've been posting facts.

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Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:17 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
SECOND, I believe that there's a subclass of this new aggressive white nationalist movement, and I put it to white men who are OUTRAGED! that their specialness just hasn't been rewarded in a manner they deem appropriate! They're built head to toe out of frustrated entitlement.

Of course very few people are appropriately rewarded in this society for their contributions. And I'm sorry to see that the only people who seem to be outraged are white males. And it's too bad that they want to make themselves whole by taking away from others.

But in a system where everybody but the people who make money from owning are getting royally screwed (that would be everybody who needs a paycheck), I suppose it's inevitable somebody would take issue at the way the system is treating them.

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Originally posted by SECOND:
I never find arguments about the "system" persuasive.

If you had a system running 24/7/365 for a 100+ years, that consistently gave you poor to unacceptable results 99.9% of the time, no matter WHO the operators were, I'd think you'd have a crappy system.

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Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:23 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Meh.

I've been posting facts.



No.

No you haven't.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, April 28, 2020 3:13 AM

Elections 2020

Joe Biden. He's the new and improved Hillary!

NOW! White AND male! Older! More incoherent! With even MORE baggage!



The ads write themselves.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
SECOND, I believe that there's a subclass of this new aggressive white nationalist movement, and I put it to white men who are OUTRAGED! that their specialness just hasn't been rewarded in a manner they deem appropriate! They're built head to toe out of frustrated entitlement.

Of course very few people are appropriately rewarded in this society for their contributions. And I'm sorry to see that the only people who seem to be outraged are white males. And it's too bad that they want to make themselves whole by taking away from others.

But in a system where everybody but the people who make money from owning are getting royally screwed (that would be everybody who needs a paycheck), I suppose it's inevitable somebody would take issue at the way the system is treating them.

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Originally posted by SECOND:
I never find arguments about the "system" persuasive.

If you had a system running 24/7/365 for a 100+ years, that consistently gave you poor to unacceptable results 99.9% of the time, no matter WHO the operators were, I'd think you'd have a crappy system.

From where I'm sitting, I don't see a problem. What could possibly be wrong with a multi-billionaire running the country? He was super-successful before being elected and he has been doing a super job ever since! And just because he has a problem paying his taxes and takes his tax-dodging all the way to the Supreme Court, what is the problem with that? I don't see one.

www.scotusblog.com/2020/04/justices-ask-for-more-briefing-in-trump-tax
-returns-cases
/

"Today the justices asked the parties to the congressional-subpoena cases and the federal government, which filed a “friend of the court” brief supporting Trump, to file supplemental briefs addressing whether the political-question doctrine applies to the cases – that is, whether courts should stay out of the fight over the subpoenas (for Trump's tax returns) because it is fundamentally a political dispute between the branches of government. If the justices were to conclude that the doctrine applies, they could dismiss the cases without ruling on the merits of the dispute – which might be a particularly appealing outcome for some justices in the lead-up to the presidential election. Such a decision could have mixed results for Trump: Without a ruling in his favor, he might not be able to block the accountant or lenders from turning over the records, but on the other hand Congress would not be able to enforce a subpoena if the companies holding the records opted not to comply."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:36 AM


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
If you had a system running 24/7/365 for a 100+ years, that consistently gave you poor to unacceptable results 99.9% of the time, no matter WHO the operators were, I'd think you'd have a crappy system.

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From where I'm sitting, I don't see a problem.


Maybe you don't see a systemic problem, but a lot of people do. It's the solutions they're divided on.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
If you had a system running 24/7/365 for a 100+ years, that consistently gave you poor to unacceptable results 99.9% of the time, no matter WHO the operators were, I'd think you'd have a crappy system.

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From where I'm sitting, I don't see a problem.


Maybe you don't see a systemic problem, but a lot of people do. It's the solutions they're divided on.

America had to go to war in order to pass the 13th Amendment abolishing slavery. That war only killed around a million. No problem. THE SYSTEM WORKS! And that was Lincoln as President. What happens when the lunatic in the White House says whatever pops into his head during a global pandemic, and then goes on to demonstrate his malignant narcissism, ignorance, pathological lying, and obvious desperation in an attempt to save face, making matters worse. It is the direct result of electing a man who, while being both unfit and incompetent, is valued because he speaks his mind, unfiltered.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 28, 2020 7:06 AM

You think the problem is Trump. But Obama got far more people killed around the globe. I guess Obama was a far more successful psychopath. YAY OBAMA! You done good!

That's not to say Trump is fine. In his press conference, riffing about UV light and disinfectants, I believe he was playing out a fantasy role. Demonstrating his brilliance to a press corps audience while experts pretended to take him seriously, as if he was contributing as their peer. I felt kinda' embarrassed for him. Nothing good can ever come out of playing out your fantasies in public.

But if that's as far as his personal pathology goes, I'll take that over Obama as a warmongering, people-droning, job-destroying, secretly vengeful, toady of the global system that serves the elite, any day.

Sadly though, Trump's administration's faults aren't limited to Trump's personal pathology. Many in the administration who are a good part of the backbone of the traditional MIC are jonesing for a war with Iran NOW! (Maybe they see his shelf-life might be limited and they're hoping to carry out their agendas before then.) There's that systemic problem again!

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Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You think the problem is Trump. But Obama got far more people killed around the globe. I guess Obama was a far more successful psychopath. YAY OBAMA! You done good!

That's not to say Trump is fine. In his press conference, riffing about UV light and disinfectants, I believe he was playing out a fantasy role. Demonstrating his brilliance to a press corps audience while experts pretended to take him seriously, as if he was contributing as their peer. I felt kinda' embarrassed for him. Nothing good can ever come out of playing out your fantasies in public.

But if that's as far as his personal pathology goes, I'll take that over Obama as a warmongering, people-droning, job-destroying, secretly vengeful, toady of the global system that serves the elite, any day.

Sadly though, Trump's administration's faults aren't limited to Trump's personal pathology. Many in the administration who are a good part of the backbone of the traditional MIC are jonesing for a war with Iran NOW! (Maybe they see his shelf-life might be limited and they're hoping to carry out their agendas before then.) There's that systemic problem again!

I checked my government book and it says very clearly that the President does NOT have the power to declare war. That is Congress's power, and yet the Pentagon, which doesn't seem to be under control of Congress, keeps going to war no matter who is President. Why doesn't Congress cut the Pentagon's budget in order to get control? How did this nonsense become standard practice? Why don't citizens either force their Congressmen to vote on authorizing wars or else not reelect their Congressmen? It truly is a mystery what is going on inside the heads of a majority of American voters/citizens/tax-payers who allow Congress to keep letting this happen decade after decade since June 4, 1942, when the Senate approved a resolution declaring war with Hungary, the most recent Declaration of War.

Official Declarations of War by Congress
www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/h_multi_sections_and_teasers/WarDecl
arationsbyCongress.htm


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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