Trump grilled over shutdown, border wall
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:They have peanut butter in Russia?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Hey, thanks.
You just reminded me to make myself a grilled peanut butter sandwich. It was delicious.
I thought you guys just ate beets.
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Trump has steadily painted himself into a corner on the issue after turning down an offer early in 2018 of $25 billion in border security funding.
Trump threw away his best chance to get funding for a border wall by effectively killing a bipartisan bill on February 14, 2018. A group of 16 senators, including Republicans Susan Collins from Maine and Virginia Democrat Tim Kaine, unveiled a new bill that assigned $25 billion in funding for border security, including physical barriers and fencing, as well as a path to citizenship for the Dreamers, immigrants brought to the US as children without documentation.
The deal was a compromise between Republicans and Democrats that could have broken the deadlock over the issue in Congress. It would “represent the most significant change to immigration law in the past thirty-five years,” said South Carolina senator Lindsey Graham, one of the bill’s sponsors.
Late that evening, however, the Department of Homeland Security put out an unusually political, aggressively worded, and often misleading statement that ripped into the plan, calling it a “mass amnesty for over 10 million illegal aliens, including criminals.”
Graham criticized the DHS for acting like a political entity, not a government agency, “Who the hell wrote this,” he said, calling the statement “poisonous.” Then Trump tweeted his support for the DHS rather than for the Senate’s compromise.
After the DHS statement dropped, Republicans and Democrats in pro-Trump states peeled away, apparently afraid that voting for a bill the president opposed would hurt them in the 2018 midterms. It failed to get the 60 Senate votes it needed in a Feb. 15 vote, winning just 54; a hardline Trump-backed alternative was even less popular, with just 39.
More at https://qz.com/1491561/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The Dems will cave and give Trump some if not all the money he wants, the only people who care about this shut down are the swamp people and their whores in the MSM. Trump knows this and is enjoying driving them bat shit crazy, they've pick another fight with a guy who loves to get into fights, they haven't learned that by now? Chuck and Nancy will cave and say they had to give in to save the country from this madman.
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Originally posted by whozit:
The Dems will cave and give Trump some if not all the money he wants, the only people who care about this shut down are the swamp people and their whores in the MSM. Trump knows this and is enjoying driving them bat shit crazy, they've pick another fight with a guy who loves to get into fights, they haven't learned that by now? Chuck and Nancy will cave and say they had to give in to save the country from this madman.
Damnit Whozit... I think you're right.
But, hopefully for me, there's a small % that Chuck and Nancy will *this time* let him hang himself and the GOP. There are 2 main stories right now in the MSM: the shiny new Dems in Congress and the Lunatic in Chief. The market is wobbling, so he can't cling to that. How much longer will Reps risk their jobs with an unindicted Co-Conspirator to a felony? I believe almost every Rep knows he's guilty as sh*t and it's just a matter of time before they haul his @ss away - do they want to be connected to him then? Timing is critical.
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Quote:The IRS is not issuing refunds. That will pinch Trump voters. If they realize that those refunds could be fixed with a stroke of Trump's pen, but he won't pick up the pen, there will be trouble for Trump.
Originally posted by whozit:
The Dems will cave and give Trump some if not all the money he wants, the only people who care about this shut down are the swamp people and their whores in the MSM. Trump knows this and is enjoying driving them bat shit crazy, they've pick another fight with a guy who loves to get into fights, they haven't learned that by now? Chuck and Nancy will cave and say they had to give in to save the country from this madman.
On the other hand, Democrats are being hectored to give Trump's 2020 Campaign a gift of $5 billion. Stroke of the pen versus $5 billion gift. I think the Democratic leadership understand that Trump will get something billions of times more valuable than what Trump will give in return, so the leadership won't give it to him or else they will look like they capitulated to a bully in exchange for nothing valuable.
www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-what-closed-open-affected-exp
lained-post-office-irs-national-parks-2019-01-05/
IRS won't issue refunds during shutdown.
If the shutdown continues into the tax filing season, the IRS could recall additional staff, according to a union official. The agency still won't issue refunds, however. The IRS issued 102 million tax refunds last year with a total value of $285 billion, according to eFile, a tax software site.
www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-delay-irs-tax-filing-and-refu
nd-brings-chaos-just-before-tax-filing-season/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by whozit:
The Dems will cave and give Trump some if not all the money he wants, the only people who care about this shut down are the swamp people and their whores in the MSM. Trump knows this and is enjoying driving them bat shit crazy, they've pick another fight with a guy who loves to get into fights, they haven't learned that by now? Chuck and Nancy will cave and say they had to give in to save the country from this madman.
Damnit Whozit... I think you're right.
But, hopefully for me, there's a small % that Chuck and Nancy will *this time* let him hang himself and the GOP. There are 2 main stories right now in the MSM: the shiny new Dems in Congress and the Lunatic in Chief. The market is wobbling, so he can't cling to that. How much longer will Reps risk their jobs with an unindicted Co-Conspirator to a felony? I believe almost every Rep knows he's guilty as sh*t and it's just a matter of time before they haul his @ss away - do they want to be connected to him then? Timing is critical.
There are elections next year. Many Senate republicans are vulnerable and Nancy won't fold. Today all Trumps top people were in a meeting with nothing but Nancy and Chucks staffers. Get it, all Trumps top people sitting across from staffers. Do I need to say it again? Oh hell, nothing but staffers people.
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Mike Pence's talks with Democratic congressional staffers fail to break the deadlock now entering its 15th day.
Senior Trump administration officials met Democratic congressional staffers, but failed to break a deadlock over a proposed border wall and end a two-week-old partial US government shutdown.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/01/mike-pence-leads-working-group-
government-shutdown-190105175604732.html
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In the first 5 minutes of that rambling "speech" he contradicted himself, I don't know, how many times? And then the Wall coyotes making a "left" turn and then a right turn. Or was it the other way around?
Come on, out with it, who really was able to understand that whole fucking mess? You have linguistic professors reaching for Extra Strength Excederin.
What was that thing about people coming here learning and then leaving that
are sought after by High Tech firms? That's partially true, but aren't those the very laws that we need to reform? Immigration Reform isn't going to get done by itself.
As Bugs Bunny would say..."What a maroon!"
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The IRS is not issuing refunds. That will pinch Trump voters. If they realize that those refunds could be fixed with a stroke of Trump's pen, but he won't pick up the pen, there will be trouble for Trump.
Originally posted by whozit:
The Dems will cave and give Trump some if not all the money he wants, the only people who care about this shut down are the swamp people and their whores in the MSM. Trump knows this and is enjoying driving them bat shit crazy, they've pick another fight with a guy who loves to get into fights, they haven't learned that by now? Chuck and Nancy will cave and say they had to give in to save the country from this madman.
Gee...
If only people were to start claiming more allowances/dependents up front so they didn't have to wait for their own hard earned money every April.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Why do I suspect this will not appear in the Libtard Predictions thread?
Originally posted by whozit:
The Dems will cave and give Trump some if not all the money he wants, the only people who care about this shut down are the swamp people and their whores in the MSM. Trump knows this and is enjoying driving them bat shit crazy, they've pick another fight with a guy who loves to get into fights, they haven't learned that by now? Chuck and Nancy will cave and say they had to give in to save the country from this madman.
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