This is Why Trump is a SCUMBAG!
POSTED BY: SHINYGOODGUY
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 7, 2026 22:00
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SHINY this got buried under REAVERFAN's endless posts about something stupid, but I wanted to make sure you didn't miss it ...
Quote:To clarify, comparing "who does what" between illegals and citizens without a CONTROL GROUP is like looking for a drug's effectiveness without a control group. You have no idea what the drug (or the presence of illegal aliens) does unless you can compare it to a group where NO drug is administered (or no illegal aliens are present). Doing the kind of paper that they did is, in scientific terms, extremely dishonest and would constitute scientific fraud.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SHINY, where do you live? Do you live in Southern CA? Because I do, along with about 3 million of my favorite illegal aliens, and I can tell you that YES, ILLEGAL ALIENS TAKE AMERICAN JOBS.
What they do ... and believe me, I've had a first-hand view of the process ... is turn low-paid, low-skilled jobs into even LOWER-skilled, LOWER-paid jobs. Nannies who can't speak English to their charges or call 9-1-1 if necessary; construction workers who have no idea how to use anything more complicated than a shovel because... yanno ... English. So we have a bunch of half-assed work done by half-assed people whose only chip they can bring to the table is, yanno .... CHEAP AND EXPLOITABLE! So they drive wages down below what a citizen would accept, a citizen who would do a better job for more money.
These "static" comparisons don't capture the effect that massive numbers of illegal aliens have on an economy. If the person who did the paper REALLY wanted to find out the effect, they would have compared "who did what" between areas where there were a lot of illegal aliens (like here) versus where there are much fewer. But I don't think they wanted to do an honest job, so they did what they did.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quit feeding the troll. ;)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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ACLU OBTAINS DOCUMENTS SHOWING WIDESPREAD ABUSE OF CHILD IMMIGRANTS IN U.S. CUSTODY
https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-ab
use-child-immigrants-us-custody
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Quote:You mean my systematically destroying your every argument? You're welcome!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SHINY this got buried under REAVERFAN's endless posts about something stupid, but I wanted to make sure you didn't miss it
I destroyed your "objection" already. You really are left with nothing. Again.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62479&p=2
Do you feel the burning shame? Do you feel stupid, yet? LOL!
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Originally posted by HEYSTUPID:
ACLU OBTAINS DOCUMENTS SHOWING WIDESPREAD ABUSE OF CHILD IMMIGRANTS IN U.S. CUSTODY
https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-ab
use-child-immigrants-us-custody
HEYSTUPID, from your own link ...
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New Report Is Based on Thousands of Government Documents Obtained Through the Freedom of Information Act That Detail Horrific Stories
The report is based on over 30,000 pages of documents dated between 2009 and 2014
So HEYSTUPID, who was President then? Do you not even READ your own links?? Seriously, dood, what's up with that?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:Wow. Your reading comprehension is as pathetic as your IQ.
So HEYSTUPID, who was President then? Do you not even READ your own links?? Seriously, dood, what's up with that?
Crushed. Too stupid to see it. Too dishonest to admit it. I own your weak ass, totally.
What's it like to be an idiot and not know it? Tell us, pussy.
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I bring certifiable facts, you keep saying "But... But... Obama!"
That's not an argument, pussy. So weak. So feeble minded.
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"I ... certifiable"
Well, certifiable IS a word I'd use for you, too!
You linked an article about how in OBAMA's administration there was widespread abuse of immigrant children.
And then you claimed it made you right.
I'm just highlighting what a nut-job you are.
At this point, I can't imagine why anyone would bother reading your posts, except to have a good laugh.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Who the fuck was this prick/cunt spewing venom? I want to send him/her a nice letter to say hi.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Last night Rachel Maddow finally took a break from her relentless warmongering toward Russia, Syria and North Korea to have a pretend cry about the plight of immigrant children on her hit MSNBC show.
It was arguably the climax of a loud nationwide outcry against a federal policy of separating parents from their children when they are arrested for illegally crossing the border from Mexico into the United States, and the following day President Trump signed an executive order suspending that policy while congress comes up with some less draconian legislation.
And of course the entire thing was phony from top to bottom. The policy Trump's political opponents have been blaming on the current administration was actually bipartisan and several administrations in the making, and as with many US policies simply grew progressively more depraved with each new president. The executive order leaves the debate over many, many immigration issues still unresolved, including the fact that it just means families will now be imprisoned together under Attorney General Jeff Sessions' new "zero tolerance policy", and the fact that thousands of families will still remain separated.
And of course the entire furor only became a mainstream issue because midterm elections are coming up and the "Russia, Russia, Russia" platform of the last year and a half hasn't exactly energized the Democratic party's base. And of course that soulless bitch Maddow, who will cheerfully help inflame tensions between nuclear powers in order to give her ratings a bump, was 100 percent acting throughout the entire scene.
But you know what? I'll take it.
I don't normally comment on US immigration policy. My haters are always whining that I, an Australian, focus so much on American politics, but believe it or not I do have a strict personal code for the sorts of things I do and do not write about. I focus on the US because it is clearly the focal point of the transnational power establishment which uses its military and economic might to bully the rest of the world into supporting omnicidal, ecocidal plutocratic agendas, but as a strong proponent of sovereignty I do try to stay in my area and only write about things which directly or indirectly impact my part of the world. I don't write about local US politics, I stay out of the gun control debate, and I don't tell people in another country what their immigration policy should be. Plus an Australian criticizing any other country for cruel immigration policy would be laughable.
That said, I think I can safely say from within my sovereign boundaries that if the Democratic Party were to spend spend June through November campaigning on immigrants' rights rather than on starting World War 3, the rest of the world will breathe a huge sigh of relief.
Trump-induced amnesia has erased much of the memory of this, but Democrats haven't always been so goddamn terrifying. They've always been phony, and they've always been the other half of America's oligarchic military-industrial complex problem, but before they lost their marbles in 2016 they did at least try to pretend to be vaguely progressive sometimes instead of basing their entire platform on attacking political opponents for trying to get along with Russia or North Korea. A reversion to the way things used to be, when Rachel Maddow was just a garden variety partisan hack instead of a psychotic amalgamation of all the worst aspects of Glenn Beck, Alex Jones and Joseph McCarthy, would be a welcome relief.
Immigration has been an on-again, off-again pet issue of the so-called "Resistance" since Trump took office, but only enough to score a few political points with a cutesy sound byte here and there. Never before has immigration policy reform been so aggressiveNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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In the meantime, do you want to know how I know the whole RUSSIA!!! topic is going nowhere?
You know, it's funny....Ha! Ha! But, wait, I forgot what I was going to say
too many distractions.........ah, yes, BULLSHIT! I rest my case.
The only ones even bringing up the above topic...is you.
Obama again!? Really!? Don't you guys have another song? It's like you guys get a fucking boner every time anyone mentions, well, anything and you
come out with Obama. Oh, of course you bring Hilary out of mothballs just
so you don't get bored....oh! too late!
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My god, you guys really CAN be led around by the nose, can't you??? You have the attention span of a goldfish, and that's a insult to goldfish everywhere!
Well, so much for intelligent debate. Wow, what a fucking group of douchebags you are. You, keeks and company keep bringing that little
subject up, yet here you are in all your stupidity hurling insults
(I admit, they are childish and rather lame, but there you have it).
Guys, nobody here pays attention to your inane insults, much less gives
a Flying Fuck about them. So dispense with the pleasantries. Get to the
point, ha!, like that's gonna happen. "attention span of goldfish?"
Come on, come up with something really good and juicy:
Here: You fucking floating turd/cunts, pull the broom out yer asses and
use the brains you find at the end of the stick, maybe, just maybe an
original idea will be stuck on it.
See, creative. avant-garde. Oh wait, I need to remind myself who I'm
talking to.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In the meantime, do you want to know how I know the whole RUSSIA!!! topic is going nowhere?
Because here you all are, spittle flying about separated families under Trump (when Obama actually separated MORE families) exactly when Horowitz is testifying about the FBI and DOJ.
My god, you guys really CAN be led around by the nose, can't you??? You have the attention span of a goldfish, and that's a insult to goldfish everywhere!
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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