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Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:09 PM
Quote:As soon as Friday, the Supreme Court could announce that it will hear Trump v. Pennsylvania, a case examining the Trump administration’s rules allowing virtually any employer to deny birth control coverage to its employees.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
But you're a loser in life, and you'll never be able to grasp what it means to be working from facts.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
The case reignites a legal conflict over the rights of employers who object to contraception on religious grounds. This conflict raged throughout much of the Obama administration, then briefly simmered down after Justice Antonin Scalia’s death temporarily stripped conservatives of the Supreme Court majority they needed to expand the rights of religious employers.
The Trump administration’s rules permit employers to ignore the requirement to provide birth control coverage to their employees if the employer expresses either a religious or a “moral” objection to contraception — erasing the old rule that religious objectors may not undercut the rights of people who do not share their beliefs.
More at www.vox.com/2020/1/14/21059931/supreme-court-birth-control-religious-l
iberty-pennsylvania-little-sisters
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:52 PM
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
If you meet the requirements ( slightly to the right, middle and liberal ) and you have an interest in starting a discussion say so.
T
Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
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Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:59 PM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You mistake "bitching" for not enjoying myself. I like Republicans (but only the rich ones) because we share values. I dislike Trump because he lives up to a poor person's stereotype of a rich person. He is the ultimate clown. The poor people who defend Trump are even funnier than he is. I'm laughing at their delusions about their "moral" superiority and their irreplaceable place in the Texas economy. They think they are essential. They are stupid to believe it. Stupid people aren't paid well and a very low Federal minimum wage guarantees things will stay that way for them, until they get a clue. I expect most won't support raising the minimum.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your life sounds "amazing".
You should probably stop bitching all of the time and maybe you'll enjoy it more.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Republican Views on the Minimum Wage
www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-minimum-wage/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
That's cool. At least we know that you enjoy yourself by being an awful person.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:32 PM
Quote:6ix, are you feeling discriminated against? Many Trump voters do. At least the ones not rich:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's cool. At least we know that you enjoy yourself by being an awful person.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Polls find that 55 percent of voters disapprove of the job he is doing, which roughly coincides with the percentage of voters who say he is ripping the country apart, and does not respect minorities. To be blunt, they think he’s a bigot and they don’t like a bigot as their president.
Nevertheless, unlike Democrats, Republicans simply don’t see Trump’s views and performance on race negatively — or maybe they refuse to confess that they see it that way because they don’t want to part ways with him. Eighty-five percent of Republicans approve or somewhat approve of his performance, with 65 percent saying they strongly approve. Tearing the country apart? No way, 68 percent of Republicans say. C’mon. They see Trump — and cheer him! — when he rips into Democrats, the media and anyone who criticizes him (such as the business leaders who quit his advisory councils). How can Trump supporters hoot and holler when Trump rips their foes and yet still claim that he is a great unifier?
One suspects that a high percentage of these Republicans know quite well how divisive Trump is, but they don’t want to think of their choice for president as someone who divides the country.
You see, a very large percentage of Republicans refuse to acknowledge Trump’s overt bigotry and divisiveness — or any other glaring character flaws. It’s not unusual for those who voted for a candidate to refuse to confess to their error or the candidate’s flaws.
When it comes to Trump, there is, however, something besides just voter denial and loyalty going on. A very large percentage of Republicans are convinced that minorities have an advantage over whites in this country. By every statistical measure, we know that is false, yet a plurality (40 percent) of Republicans, 38 percent of conservatives and 40 percent of white evangelicals are convinced that whites are the victims in society.
And that makes perfect sense. Trump’s core campaign message was about white grievance, as he sought to convince mostly working-class voters that their livelihood, their status and their cultural dominance were stolen from them by Democrats, “globalists,” elites and those who won’t say “Merry Christmas.” It’s only natural that the visceral connection that Trump made with them is hard to break. For these people, whenever Trump says or does something regarding minorities that others find horrifying, they see this as evidence that he is fighting for them and leveling the playing field (remember they think they’re the victims).
These voters are convinced that they’ve been done wrong, and it’s the fault of Democrats -- people who don’t look or live the way they do. This is identity politics run rampant, and Trump has perfected it.
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/08/31/republicans-wont
-acknowledge-trump-is-a-really-bad-person/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:45 PM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, are you feeling discriminated against? Many Trump voters do. At least the ones not rich:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's cool. At least we know that you enjoy yourself by being an awful person.
Polls find that 55 percent of voters disapprove of the job he is doing, which roughly coincides with the percentage of voters who say he is ripping the country apart, and does not respect minorities. To be blunt, they think he’s a bigot and they don’t like a bigot as their president.
T
Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 5:53 PM
Quote:The biggest selling point of Medicare for All is that it’s simple. Bernie and Liz should tell people that it means if they get sick, they just show their M4A card to any doctor or hospital and they get treated, full stop. And no one can take it away.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
But you're a loser in life, and you'll never be able to grasp what it means to be working from facts.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
Amy Klobuchar’s moderate case against Medicare-for-all in two words: The Senate.
All of the Republican Senators and some Senate Democrats, including those who would lead the committees that write health care legislation, are NOT on board with single-payer. (Sanders supporters generally respond to these arguments by saying they don’t think they should be compromising on their ideal plan before a new president has even been elected. But the Senate is the place where good ideas ALWAYS die, unless either the Democrats or the Republicans have a super-majority of 67. The extra 7 votes above the 60 needed to override a filibuster allows for some stubborn old fool Senators to be ignored when passing good legislation. Thank Senator Joe Lieberman, a semi-Democrat, for no public option in Obamacare. There were only 60 Democratic Senators at the time Obamacare passed.)
Explanation of Public Option Vs. Single Payer
www.factcheck.org/2009/12/public-option-vs-single-payer/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 8:16 PM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, are you feeling discriminated against? Many Trump voters do. At least the ones not rich:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's cool. At least we know that you enjoy yourself by being an awful person.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Polls find that 55 percent of voters disapprove of the job he is doing, which roughly coincides with the percentage of voters who say he is ripping the country apart, and does not respect minorities. To be blunt, they think he’s a bigot and they don’t like a bigot as their president.
Uh huh.
#DemDebatesSoWhite
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:27 PM
Quote:The Debates rules are biased against Wealth, not skin color; for the 7th debate, Bloomberg met polling criteria but not the fundraising criterion, as he is not currently asking for donations.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
#DemDebatesSoWhite
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_debat
es#Qualification_7
Why didn’t Cory Booker catch on? It was not because he is black.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/13/21063982/democratic-primary-
2020-cory-booker-drops-out
On Friday, I sat down with Sen. Cory Booker for 90 minutes. It was, simultaneously, one of the most inspiring and maddening interviews I’ve done with a presidential candidate. Inspiring because there is a moral radicalism and spiritual generosity to Booker’s politics that set him apart from other politicians. Maddening because when Booker turns his politics outward, they lose clarity. He shies away from drawing bright lines, his answers double back to blur out potential offense. In showing his love, he muddles his message.
There is a moral radicalism to the way Cory Booker lives out his politics. He lived for years in a housing project. He leads hunger strikes. He challenges political machines. He’s a vegan. He has a more ambitious policy vision than is often discussed, but beneath that is a far more radical ethical vision than he gets credit for.
The problem is that while he’s comfortable saying what that ethical vision demands of him, he’s very uncomfortable saying what it demands of the rest of us. In this conversation, I wanted Booker to risk my discomfort. And in his answers, I think you can hear both the remarkable promise of Booker’s politics and some of the challenges that have held back his campaign.
One exchange particularly stood out to me. I was pressing Booker on the way the current political moment rewards confrontation with attention and sharp line-drawing with support. Booker replied:
Barack Obama, God bless him, he played by the Queen’s rules, for lack of a better way of putting it. This president [Trump] is breaking norms and traditions every day to demean, distract, divide, degrade. If I’m the president of the United States, I’m not playing by the Queen’s rules. I will do things from that office people do not expect.
Okay, I asked. Like what?
Booker wouldn’t say. “I’m not going to do that because part of it is the element of surprise,” he replied. To that I reply "BULLSHIT! I'm not voting you."
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Thursday, January 16, 2020 1:03 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, are you feeling discriminated against? Many Trump voters do. At least the ones not rich:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's cool. At least we know that you enjoy yourself by being an awful person.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Polls find that 55 percent of voters disapprove of the job he is doing, which roughly coincides with the percentage of voters who say he is ripping the country apart, and does not respect minorities. To be blunt, they think he’s a bigot and they don’t like a bigot as their president.
Uh huh.
#DemDebatesSoWhite
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:The Debates rules are biased against Wealth, not skin color; for the 7th debate, Bloomberg met polling criteria but not the fundraising criterion, as he is not currently asking for donations.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Uh huh.
#DemDebatesSoWhite
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_debat
es#Qualification_7
Why didn’t Cory Booker catch on? It was not because he is black.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/13/21063982/democratic-primary-
2020-cory-booker-drops-out
On Friday, I sat down with Sen. Cory Booker for 90 minutes. It was, simultaneously, one of the most inspiring and maddening interviews I’ve done with a presidential candidate. Inspiring because there is a moral radicalism and spiritual generosity to Booker’s politics that set him apart from other politicians. Maddening because when Booker turns his politics outward, they lose clarity. He shies away from drawing bright lines, his answers double back to blur out potential offense. In showing his love, he muddles his message.
There is a moral radicalism to the way Cory Booker lives out his politics. He lived for years in a housing project. He leads hunger strikes. He challenges political machines. He’s a vegan. He has a more ambitious policy vision than is often discussed, but beneath that is a far more radical ethical vision than he gets credit for.
The problem is that while he’s comfortable saying what that ethical vision demands of him, he’s very uncomfortable saying what it demands of the rest of us. In this conversation, I wanted Booker to risk my discomfort. And in his answers, I think you can hear both the remarkable promise of Booker’s politics and some of the challenges that have held back his campaign.
One exchange particularly stood out to me. I was pressing Booker on the way the current political moment rewards confrontation with attention and sharp line-drawing with support. Booker replied:
Barack Obama, God bless him, he played by the Queen’s rules, for lack of a better way of putting it. This president [Trump] is breaking norms and traditions every day to demean, distract, divide, degrade. If I’m the president of the United States, I’m not playing by the Queen’s rules. I will do things from that office people do not expect.
Okay, I asked. Like what?
Booker wouldn’t say. “I’m not going to do that because part of it is the element of surprise,” he replied. To that I reply "BULLSHIT! I'm not voting you."
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Uh huh.
#DemDebatesSoWhite
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Thursday, January 16, 2020 10:38 PM
Quote:(Trump denies climate change and Trump added the W76-2 nuke to America's arsenal specifically for assassinating leaders in Iran and N. Korea with "Fire and Fury", Trump's trademark.}
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
But you're a loser in life, and you'll never be able to grasp what it means to be working from facts.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
America Has Built a Global Dystopia
Scheer asks Chomsky a question on many people’s minds nowadays as a variety of human caused factors threaten humanity’s very existence. “Is this the end of time for our species?” he asks. “I reread your book, ‘Hegemony or Survival,’ and firstly, you mentioned there that the typical life of a species is 100,000 years and that we may be coming to the end of this disfavor. And secondly, it’s an open question whether being smart, as we define smart, is an important way of averting disaster and preventing the disintegration of the species.
“The reason it’s a relevant question right at this moment,” Scheer continues, “is because we had the best and the brightest, as David Halberstam had described them, who gave us the Cold War and gave us Vietnam and gave us Iraq and everything else and, you know, gave away the money from Main Street to Wall Street, and all that. And now we have somebody who people like to think of as very crude, boorish, ill-mannered, which is Donald Trump. And we have Trump-washing. Suddenly the smart, liberal people who created much of this mischief are now whitewashed, or Trump-washed, by this buffoon.”
“[‘Hegemony or Survival’] begins with the discussion by the great biologist Ernst Mayr, who [makes the point] that intelligence seems to be a kind of lethal mutation,” Chomsky explains. “If you look through what’s called biological success, what allows the species to survive and proliferate, turns out as you move up the scale of what we call intelligence, capacity to survive declines. So the species that are really very successful are beetles, for example, which have a fixed niche; they never change. Everything changes, the whole world changes, but they stick to their niche and keep reproducing and they’re fine. … As you move up to … bigger mammals—their capacity to survive declines. What about when you get to humans? Well, you could argue that … we are now proving Mayr’s thesis. Not so much for the reasons you mentioned, which are bad enough, but we are racing to destroy the possibility of organized human life. And it’s a cooperation of those who call themselves the best and the brightest, and the Trumpian boors … all racing toward disaster, perfectly consciously, a great testimonial to human intelligence. And that’s only the beginning.”
Chomsky discusses the incredible global failure to address the climate crisis, as well as the nuclear arms race, which are both leading humanity to a precipice that may be impossible to walk away from.
More at www.truthdig.com/articles/noam-chomsky-america-has-built-a-global-dyst
opia/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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