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I hope you're ready to live without A/C when the next Democrat president gets in there and ratifies it for you in 2024.
I've been doing it for years. It's not that bad, most of the time.
This will be entertaining.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You didn't bother to click on the article, did you? There are alternatives to hydrofluorocarbons that are NOT 1,000,000 times worse greenhouse gases than CO2. Even CO2 can be used as a refrigerant for air-conditioning. But it is nice to know that as a Trump voter you gave another example of having very little useful knowledge of what you have strong opinions about. Vote Trump in 2020! He will look after you! (He sure does look after people like me, but I won't vote Trump.)
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I hope you're ready to live without A/C when the next Democrat president gets in there and ratifies it for you in 2024.
I've been doing it for years. It's not that bad, most of the time.
This will be entertaining.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
HFCs: Super Greenhouse Gases
https://eia-global.org/campaigns/Climate/what-are-hydrofluorocarbons
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Nicholas Kristof and Sheryl WuDunn are the authors of “Tightrope: Americans Reaching for Hope,” from which this essay is adapted.
Jan. 9, 2020
YAMHILL, Ore. — Chaos reigned daily on the No. 6 school bus, with working-class boys and girls flirting and gossiping and dreaming, brimming with mischief, bravado and optimism. Nick rode it every day in the 1970s with neighbors here in rural Oregon, neighbors like Farlan, Zealan, Rogena, Nathan and Keylan Knapp.
They were bright, rambunctious, upwardly mobile youngsters whose father had a good job installing pipes. The Knapps were thrilled to have just bought their own home, and everyone oohed and aahed when Farlan received a Ford Mustang for his 16th birthday.
Yet today about one-quarter of the children on that No. 6 bus are dead, mostly from drugs, suicide, alcohol or reckless accidents. Of the five Knapp kids who had once been so cheery, Farlan died of liver failure from drink and drugs, Zealan burned to death in a house fire while passed out drunk, Rogena died from hepatitis linked to drug use and Nathan blew himself up cooking meth. Keylan survived partly because he spent 13 years in a state penitentiary.
Among other kids on the bus, Mike died from suicide, Steve from the aftermath of a motorcycle accident, Cindy from depression and a heart attack, Jeff from a daredevil car crash, Billy from diabetes in prison, Kevin from obesity-related ailments, Tim from a construction accident, Sue from undetermined causes. And then there’s Chris, who is presumed dead after years of alcoholism and homelessness. At least one more is in prison, and another is homeless.
We Americans are locked in political combat and focused on President Trump, but there is a cancer gnawing at the nation that predates Trump and is larger than him. Suicides are at their highest rate since World War II; one child in seven is living with a parent suffering from substance abuse; a baby is born every 15 minutes after prenatal exposure to opioids; America is slipping as a great power.
We have deep structural problems that have been a half century in the making, under both political parties, and that are often transmitted from generation to generation. Only in America has life expectancy now fallen three years in a row, for the first time in a century, because of “deaths of despair.”
“The meaningfulness of the working-class life seems to have evaporated,” Angus Deaton, the Nobel Prize-winning economist, told us. “The economy just seems to have stopped delivering for these people.” Deaton and the economist Anne Case, who is also his wife, coined the term “deaths of despair” to describe the surge of mortality from alcohol, drugs and suicide.
The kids on the No. 6 bus rode into a cataclysm as working-class communities disintegrated across America because of lost jobs, broken families, gloom — and failed policies. The suffering was invisible to affluent Americans, but the consequences are now evident to all: The survivors mostly voted for Trump, some in hopes that he would rescue them, but under him the number of children without health insurance has risen by more than 400,000.
The stock market is near record highs, but working-class Americans (often defined as those without college degrees) continue to struggle. If you’re only a high school graduate, or worse, a dropout, work no longer pays. If the federal minimum wage in 1968 had kept up with inflation and productivity, it would now be $22 an hour. Instead, it’s $7.25.
More at www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/opinion/sunday/deaths-despair-poverty.html
A $1 raise in minimum wage is associated with a drop in suicide rates of between 3.5 to 6% in people with a high school education or less. (Source: https://neurosciencenews.com/minimum-wage-suicide-15423/ )
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You didn't bother to click on the article, did you? There are alternatives to hydrofluorocarbons that are NOT 1,000,000 times worse greenhouse gases than CO2. Even CO2 can be used as a refrigerant for air-conditioning. But it is nice to know that as a Trump voter you gave another example of having very little useful knowledge of what you have strong opinions about. Vote Trump in 2020! He will look after you! (He sure does look after people like me, but I won't vote Trump.)
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I hope you're ready to live without A/C when the next Democrat president gets in there and ratifies it for you in 2024.
I've been doing it for years. It's not that bad, most of the time.
This will be entertaining.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
HFCs: Super Greenhouse Gases
https://eia-global.org/campaigns/Climate/what-are-hydrofluorocarbons
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Why would I click on the article? You consistently put articles on the board and you never once take the time to put them in quotes and it looks as though you're trying to pass them off as your own work. Not one single thing you plagiarized in your post had anything to do with alternatives. It was all "Orange Man Bad", so coming from the source I just assumed that was the gist of the article, since that's the only thing that's been on your mind for three years.
So if there's this magic stuff that works so well, why aren't we already using it. It's not Trump's fault. It's probably because it doesn't work.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:The average house air conditioner is not using the alternatives to hydrofluorocarbon refrigerants because HFCs are $1.00 cheaper per pound. In the industry I worked in for the first 30 years of my career, petrochemicals, we didn't go for cheap, we used the best. I swear to God, 6ix, you are such a simpleton with delusions about your moral superiority and your work ethic. But that makes you the same as every other Trump voter I know. Keep on believing your falsehoods, you big whinny baby. That reminds me of Trump. I'll check on him! What is he doing this hour? He is doing exactly what you do all the time: complementing himself as superior to any Democrat. What an asshole he is. Please vote for him, 6ix. I tripled my net worth in the first 3 years of Trump. If he goes 8 years, I'll be a multi-billionaire, but I sure won't vote for that creepy dummy.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why would I click on the article? You consistently put articles on the board and you never once take the time to put them in quotes and it looks as though you're trying to pass them off as your own work. Not one single thing you plagiarized in your post had anything to do with alternatives. It was all "Orange Man Bad", so coming from the source I just assumed that was the gist of the article, since that's the only thing that's been on your mind for three years.
So if there's this magic stuff that works so well, why aren't we already using it. It's not Trump's fault. It's probably because it doesn't work.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216365925701705730
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The average house air conditioner is not using the alternatives to hydrofluorocarbon refrigerants because HFCs are $1.00 cheaper per pound. In the industry I worked in for the first 30 years of my career, petrochemicals, we didn't go for cheap, we used the best. I swear to God, 6ix, you are such a simpleton with delusions about your moral superiority and your work ethic. But that makes you the same as every other Trump voter I know. Keep on believing your falsehoods, you big whinny baby. That reminds me of Trump. I'll checked on him. What is he doing this hour? He is doing exactly what you do all the time: complementing himself as superior to any Democrat. What an asshole he is. Please vote for him, 6ix. I tripled my net worth in the first 3 years of Trump. If he goes 8 years, I'll be a multi-billionaire, but I sure won't vote for that creepy dummy.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why would I click on the article? You consistently put articles on the board and you never once take the time to put them in quotes and it looks as though you're trying to pass them off as your own work. Not one single thing you plagiarized in your post had anything to do with alternatives. It was all "Orange Man Bad", so coming from the source I just assumed that was the gist of the article, since that's the only thing that's been on your mind for three years.
So if there's this magic stuff that works so well, why aren't we already using it. It's not Trump's fault. It's probably because it doesn't work.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216365925701705730
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Who's whining?
You're supposedly the richest guy on the board that's raking in millions of extra tax breaks right now and you're the biggest crybaby here.
If you hate Texas so much, fucking move already. We all know how much Nilbog hates where she lives, but she doesn't have a billion dollars to move to California where she thinks she'd be a lot happier. Supposedly, you do. Stop wasting all your time on this board and enjoy some of that money. Maybe do a few nice things for people with it so you don't have to feel so guilty that you have it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I love Texas! No income taxes. No rules for people like me. Republican politicians kissing my ass because I'm rich. What is not to like?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who's whining?
You're supposedly the richest guy on the board that's raking in millions of extra tax breaks right now and you're the biggest crybaby here.
If you hate Texas so much, fucking move already. We all know how much Nilbog hates where she lives, but she doesn't have a billion dollars to move to California where she thinks she'd be a lot happier. Supposedly, you do. Stop wasting all your time on this board and enjoy some of that money. Maybe do a few nice things for people with it so you don't have to feel so guilty that you have it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I love Texas! No income taxes. No rules for people like me. Republican politicians kissing my ass because I'm rich. What is not to like?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who's whining?
You're supposedly the richest guy on the board that's raking in millions of extra tax breaks right now and you're the biggest crybaby here.
If you hate Texas so much, fucking move already. We all know how much Nilbog hates where she lives, but she doesn't have a billion dollars to move to California where she thinks she'd be a lot happier. Supposedly, you do. Stop wasting all your time on this board and enjoy some of that money. Maybe do a few nice things for people with it so you don't have to feel so guilty that you have it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Your life sounds "amazing".
You should probably stop bitching all of the time and maybe you'll enjoy it more.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You mistake "bitching" for not enjoying myself. I like Republicans (but only the rich ones) because we share values. I dislike Trump because he lives up to a poor person's stereotype of a rich person. He is the ultimate clown. The poor people who defend Trump are even funnier than he is. I'm laughing at their delusions about their "moral" superiority and their irreplaceable place in the Texas economy. They think they are essential. They are stupid to believe it. Stupid people aren't paid well and a very low Federal minimum wage guarantees things will stay that way for them, until they get a clue. I expect most won't support raising the minimum.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your life sounds "amazing".
You should probably stop bitching all of the time and maybe you'll enjoy it more.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Republican Views on the Minimum Wage
www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-minimum-wage/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:So far repeated Republican attempts to destroy the Affordable Care Act have failed. In 2012 the Supreme Court rejected claims that the whole law was unconstitutional. In 2017 a Republican-controlled Congress narrowly failed to repeal Obamacare. And a variety of narrower efforts to undermine health reform and send insurance markets into a “death spiral” have fallen short: Markets seem to have stabilized, and one by one, states that initially rejected Medicaid expansion have been relenting.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
But you're a loser in life, and you'll never be able to grasp what it means to be working from facts.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
The latest attempt is a lawsuit claiming that the 2017 tax cut, which reduced the penalty for not having insurance to $0, made the entire Affordable Care Act unconstitutional. The law suddenly becomes constitutional if the penalty was a penny or more. The Trump administration has joined the suit and a partisan Republican judge has indeed ruled that the A.C.A. as a whole should be struck down.
Clearly, this case is headed for the Supreme Court. But Trump doesn’t want it heard until after the election.
The Republican states on Friday agreed with Trump’s Department of Justice. “The lawfulness of the act is undoubtedly a matter of the utmost national importance, but the current petitions do not justify immediate, emergency review by the court,” said their brief, brought by the Republican attorney general of Texas and elected Republican officials in 17 other states. A group of Democratic-led states, which entered the case to defend the law, have asked the Supreme Court to rule right away. Their brief, filed last week, emphasized the major stakes of the case.
The Supreme Court could accept the case at this stage if four justices agree it is ripe for legal review. It would take a five-justice majority for the case to be considered on the “expedited basis” that would set up a ruling by the end of the court’s current session in June — before the 2020 election.
The entire case hinges on the A.C.A. being constitutional if the penalty for not having insurance is a penny or more, but unconstitutional if the penalty is $0. It is not a difficult, complex, or subtle case to decide. It doesn’t need a hundred pages of excruciatingly detailed legal reasoning to come to a conclusion, unless the Supreme Court Justices are blowing smoke in people’s faces to obscure the Court’s politics. Did a one-line change in the Tax Code of 2017 end Obamacare? Yes or No? If the one-line did end Obamacare, that really should have been mentioned when the bill was debated or else that was not what the 2017 Tax Code does.
More at www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/upshot/obamacare-lawsuit-delay-sought-trump
-republicans.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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