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KIKI posted the question Why would anyone believe our spooks? After all, it IS their job to lie.
Do you recall that the CIA says it does not spy internally?
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Inquiry by C.I.A. Affirms It Spied on Senate Panel
An internal investigation by the C.I.A. has found that its officers penetrated a computer network used by the Senate Intelligence Committee in preparing its damning report on the C.I.A.’s detention and interrogation program.
The report by the agency’s inspector general also found that C.I.A. officers read the emails of the Senate investigators and sent a criminal referral to the Justice Department based on false information, according to a summary of findings made public on Thursday. One official with knowledge of the report’s conclusions said the investigation also discovered that the officers created a false online identity to gain access on more than one occasion to computers used by the committee staff.
The inspector general’s account of how the C.I.A. secretly monitored a congressional committee charged with supervising its activities touched off angry criticism from members of the Senate and amounted to vindication for Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, the committee’s Democratic chairwoman, who excoriated the C.I.A. in March when the agency’s monitoring of committee investigators became public.
A statement issued Thursday morning by a C.I.A. spokesman said that John O. Brennan, the agency’s director, had apologized to Ms. Feinstein and the committee’s ranking Republican, Senator Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, and would set up an internal accountability board to review the issue. The statement said that the board, which will be led by a former Democratic senator, Evan Bayh of Indiana, could recommend “potential disciplinary measures” and “steps to address systemic issues.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/01/world/senate-intelligence-commitee-
cia-interrogation-report.html
I guess they haven't spied on Trump, either.
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HOW THE NSA, CIA, AND FBI LEAK ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE INFORMATION TO OTHER AGENCIES
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U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans
A secretive U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration unit is funneling information from intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone records to authorities across the nation to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans.
Although these cases rarely involve national security issues, documents reviewed by Reuters show that law enforcement agents have been directed to conceal how such investigations truly begin - not only from defense lawyers but also sometimes from prosecutors and judges.
The undated documents show that federal agents are trained to "recreate" the investigative trail to effectively cover up where the information originated, a practice that some experts say violates a defendant's Constitutional right to a fair trial. If defendants don't know how an investigation began, they cannot know to ask to review potential sources of exculpatory evidence - information that could reveal entrapment, mistakes or biased witnesses....
The unit of the DEA that distributes the information is called the Special Operations Division, or SOD. Two dozen partner agencies comprise the unit, including the FBI, CIA, NSA, Internal Revenue Service and the Department of Homeland Security. It was created in 1994 to combat Latin American drug cartels and has grown from several dozen employees to several hundred.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805
So, to apply this to the current situation: The "investigation" by a group of disinterested third-party techies into the "pinging" of Trump Tower server by Alfa Bank (Russia) might not have begun with some random curiosity into a detail so fine it would be overlooked by .... everybody ... but by a tipoff by the NSA/ CIA. The information thus leaked would cause this group to create a plausible story as to why they looked into this "to begin with", and then re-create the same information by another pathway.
FWIW, I thought their story sounded implausible.
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When all else fails ... an indirect threat against Trump and his family ...?
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Secret Service laptop containing Trump Tower evacuation and floor plans stolen
A laptop with highly sensitive information was stolen from a Secret Service agent's car Thursday morning in Brooklyn and has not been found, according to two senior New York law enforcement officials.
The officials said the laptop, which was highly encrypted and contained floor plans and evacuation protocol for Trump Tower, cannot be traced or erased by officials remotely, leaving the information at risk of being discovered.
The agent described the incident as a compromise of national security, according to one of the officials.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/17/politics/missing-secret-service-laptop/
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So, the point about stealing the laptop: Of course, all intelligence agencies have access to Secret Service information. But now that that information has been let loose "into the wild" then ANYone can be accused of assassinating Trump or killing his family members. It creates "plausible deniability" which both Trump and his advisors would recognize. Even the theft itself is plausibly deniable.
What's interesting is the role of the Secret Service officer herself from whom the laptop was stolen. Either it was incredible carelessness on her part: leaving the car unlocked in her driveway with the laptop inside - in which case she becomes the "fall guy", or gal - or the locked car was expertly hacked. I doubt we'll ever read the details.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, the point about stealing the laptop: Of course, all intelligence agencies have access to Secret Service information. But now that that information has been let loose "into the wild" then ANYone can be accused of assassinating Trump or killing his family members. It creates "plausible deniability"
Oh shit, SIG is trying to plant the seed that the CIA stole the laptop, and is now free to kill Trump.
You truly are the dullest apple on the tree.
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The leak of the existence of a "transcript" of Flynn talking with Russian Ambassador was intended to smear Flynn specifically and the Trump administration generally with BUT RUSSIA!
The Senate committee which is looking into this is turning the tables on those deep-state actors who released this information, and is investigating their illegal activities as well.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, the point about stealing the laptop: Of course, all intelligence agencies have access to Secret Service information. But now that that information has been let loose "into the wild" then ANYone can be accused of assassinating Trump or killing his family members. It creates "plausible deniability"
Oh shit, SIG is trying to plant the seed that the CIA stole the laptop, and is not free to kill Trump.
You truly are the dullest apple on the tree.
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SIG says I'm a deep state troll.
Right - was there any "Deep State" talk during the election? Nope! Now that they are closing in on Trump, they are in reverse gear trying to smear the US intelligence community. Sig is so transparent. Sadly, she realizes that such blatant hypocrisy carries very little downside on this board.
Yep G... Hey, I had a type O and you quoted G. I meant now free, not, not free.
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Right - was there any "Deep State" talk during the election? Nope!
YEP! There was!
I have been posting for quite some time now that some of Hillary's State Department activities- upending Ukraine and destroying Libya and the false flag chemical attack in Ghouta - came as a surprise to Obama. That there was CIA-aided gun-running through Benghazi that Obama knew nothing about. That there is a war going on between different intelligence agencies ... as exemplified by the letter of protest from 50 DIA analysts about having their analyses of the Syria strategy turned into "happy news", only to be answered by a letter of protest from 50 State Department (i.e. CIA) employees who wanted a more "kinetic" approach to Syria.
I have pointed out, time and time again, that the USA is no longer a democracy, but that in matters of importance where the oligarchs and the people part ways, the oligarchs get their way. And have cited the paper many times as evidence.
I have even mentioned CHRISISALL's comment more than once- which has stuck with me for years - that the reason why Obama was such a foreign-policy weenie was because he got a threat written on a napkin early on ... something about "think of your family".
WE have been talking about the deep state for years. I guess you're just late to the party.
Quote:WITH WHAT? Either there is proof, from (illegal) surveillance or there's just bullshit. MANY people ... even Hillary's former ally and presumed choice to head the CIA, Mike Morell, said there's no "there" there.
Now that they are closing in on Trump
So what's your point? More BUT RUSSIA! ? Good grief!
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Quote:Oh, so I didn't mention it that one time.
Nope! When Comey revealed the Weiner emails (utter nothing) were you raising deep state objections? NOPE - GSTRING
Big fucking deal.
I DID discuss the FBI potentially versus the CIA. The "grunts" versus the politicos. YOU may have plugged your ears and chanted Nyah nyah nyah I can't hear you but it WAS discussed.
There is no doubt that WE have been talking about the deep state- by whatever name you care to call it- for years.
The petrodollar reason to invade Iraq and Libya. The pipelinestan reason to destroy Syria.
Good lord, son, what the hell are you smoking?
Yanno what?
I don't care. Go take your happy-pills, smoke whatever you want, drink whatever you want, bury yourself in FB, jack off in a corner, jump into your bubble ... do whatever it is that you do to remain a brainless lump of self-comforting human flesh.
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