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Yahoo Poll

POSTED BY: rhuttner
UPDATED: Friday, July 2, 2004 18:46
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Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:21 PM

http://tv.yahoo.com/ has a poll: Q: What cancelled series would you like to see pull a "Family Guy" and return to the air?

Firefly is currently in 8th place at 4%
Angel is in the lead with 22%

Come on Browncoats, lets get that ranking up.

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Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:27 PM

We're getting pummelled. Whether it's because we just found out about this poll, or because so many of us realize that a return to t.v. is a lost cause.....I dunno. Either way, I voted.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:29 PM

Am I the only one that thinks it's REALLY wrong of Futurama to be that far ahead of Firefly in the polls? *sigh* Well, I've cast my vote.

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Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:33 PM

I voted and it's now at 5%, Angel still at 22%. We can do this, people!!

Mal-licious

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Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:40 PM

keepin' it on top...

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:54 PM

again...

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:18 PM

I voted!!! Everyone should!!! Thanks :-)

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Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:45 PM

I accidentally voted for Farscape, and it won't change the totals when I revote for firefly. D'OH!!!

Can we start a poll about what shows we think we should replace with Firefly or others from the list?



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Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:59 PM

bump

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:13 AM

ok, everyone should vote (Firefly's only gotten 322 votes so far)

let's get Joss the number one and number positions!

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zark1976:
I accidentally voted for Farscape, and it won't change the totals when I revote for firefly. D'OH!!!




Haa haa haa. Lemmie guess, you live in Florida? And it wasn't even a butterfly ballot either....huh.

ducks and runs for cover Hee hee hee.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:34 AM

Well, I just voted and it's up to 7%. Still got a ways to go.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:38 AM

Fox doesn't know a good show even when it comes along and lines their pockets does it?

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:49 AM

well i am a Official Browncoat but i would still have to say angel..iam sorry , i know firefly is over on tv but though us it is getting a fifty million dollar movie...a lot better then the budget for any show..it is higher than a show,and I would like to see the Angel story to end (Properly) in all its glory..

"lets go to work"

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:29 AM

Poll at 490 and 9% tied for fifth... get the message to other 'coats. Let's GO people!

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:35 AM

Looks like I was vote 491 for Firefly. Still at 9%, but with the highest votes of all the other 9%ers.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:36 AM

I've voted

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:17 AM

Voted. Firefly is at 10% with a few more votes than Dark Angel also at 10%. 585 to 583.






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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 4:14 AM

bump

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 4:25 AM

cmon now. theres NO WAY im gonna let farscape, futurama and angel beat firefly. browncoats unite!

-Soul Rebel-

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 4:30 AM

Firefly is at 11% with 656 votes.

That puts it in 4th place.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:16 AM

I voted, still at 11% but going strong- Bump, even-

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He looked bigger when I couldn't see him.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 8:25 AM

40 more and we're beating Futurama and into 3rd. Wasn't this poll on IMDb last week?

"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:08 AM

Superior numbers.

At the moment Firefly's 4 votes behind Futurama, 247 behind Farscape, and 612 behind Angel.

This poll doesn't mean much since it's probably cookie based, which means somebot could flood it.

The IMDb poll at http://www.imdb.com/poll/results/2004-06-23 is user based, which makes it a little less "Diebold"ish.
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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:12 AM

i just voted. 775 votes now

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:39 AM

I'd sure like to see Sports Night back on the air as well. But since one of the stars is working elsewhere, I'd say it's not going to happen.

Funny, I have the second pair of DVDs in my briefcase as I type. Over lunch, if I finish my book, I crank up a DVD, and Sports Night is my current series.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:52 AM

I agree that Sports Night is a great show, but it did get two full seasons, and most of those others got at least that much air time as well, and of course Angel got five years and Farscape four.

Firefly, Freeks and Geeks & The Tick are the ones that were yanked the quickest. Of course you can say I'm not being very objective about it, but IMO Firefly is the one on the list that had the most potential to be classic but wasn't given a chance.

Also, I just voted for it a second time, so there's no reason we can't get its numbers up much higher.




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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:00 PM

I voted for our beloved Firefly as well. Looks like we are rising a bit in the voting:

Firefly 11% 794 votes

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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LIZ
Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:28 PM

i just voted: 12%, 3rd place, 815 votes.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:09 PM

12% 850 votes

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:38 PM

Wednesday, 9:30 am: FF at 12%, 887 votes.

I'm going to go tell the guys at AR15.com to hit it.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:17 PM

I voted


Angel 21%
Farscape 15%
Firefly 12%
Futurama 11%
Dark Angel 9%

Come on everyone, vote!!!!!!

Am I a Lion?... No, I think I'ma tellin' the truth.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:43 PM

We're up to 13%!

Keep the votes a'comin!!

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:47 PM

bump

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 4:49 PM

I voted but we were still at 13%.....we can do this!!! Go go go go browncoats!!

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:04 PM

I voted.

Firefly: 13%
Angel: 24%
Sports Night: 7%
Freaks & Geeks: 7%
Boomtown: 6%
Futurama: 10%
Farscape: 15%
The Critic: 2%
Dark Angel: 9%
The Tick: 2%

I do kinda feel sorry for Dark Angel.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:37 PM

bump

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:04 PM

There's a few great shows on that list. I really do despise network execs!!!

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:31 PM

OK. Being the IT Geek that I am, I took my lunch break and remoted into 32 computers on my network and voted for Firefly. It was at 13% when I started, now it's at 14! hehehehe!!!

Freedom - Peace - Serenity

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:32 PM

Firefly 14% 1348 votes
Angel 25% 2477 votes
Sports Night 7% 739 votes
Freaks and Geeks 6% 672 votes
Boomtown 6% 648 votes
Futurama 10% 988 votes
Farscape 14% 1441 votes
The Critic 2% 221 votes
Dark Angel 9% 875 votes
The Tick (live-action) 2% 212 votes

standings after my vote.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:54 PM

I just sent an email to everyone in my office (about 120 peeps) and asked them to make my day and vote for Firefly.

Firefly 14% 1403 votes
Angel 25% 2558 votes
Sports Night 7% 752 votes
Freaks and Geeks 6% 683 votes
Boomtown 6% 657 votes
Futurama 10% 1005 votes
Farscape 14% 1478 votes
The Critic 2% 223 votes
Dark Angel 8% 886 votes
The Tick (live-action) 2% 215 votes

Only 75 away from Farscape now

Freedom - Peace - Serenity

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:16 PM

Just voted...Firefly's in third place now (14%, 1491 votes), behind Farscape (15%, 1625 votes) and Angel (26%, 2833 votes)

Is this posted at the 'Versal Boards? OB? SerenityMovie.net?

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:41 PM

OK. Firefly has 1564 as of right now. I know I am responsible for 142 votes (me and co-workers) Thants 9% of the vote . Does that seem right to you? Let go people VOTE!

There are more of us out there than this. I know it!

Freedom - Peace - Serenity

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 1:14 AM

It looks like the Angel fans are on a crusade. They're numbers are increasing faster than ours.

I'm not too surprised - Angel was just cancelled, and since Firefly has been off the air approx. 2 years, I'd say we're doing o.k.

Of course I'd still like to see Firefly kick ass.

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 1:26 AM

i can take another joss whedon show beating firefly but god not farscape! not when firefly is far superior to that show. at least beat farscape. actually i havent checked in awhile. are we beating farscape? haha.

-Soul Rebel-

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 3:33 AM

THIRD PLACE!!!
Keep voting, so we get at least to second place!
BTW Farscape beating FF




polgara

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 3:45 AM

Did any of those shows in the list have as few episodes as Firefly?


SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 6:06 AM

Firefly's a close third now, trailing Farscape by 60 votes.

I loved Farscape, but it had a good run, and the miniseries should make up for the abrupt ending.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 6:33 AM

bump

Firefly in third by 61 votes to Farscape


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Thursday, July 1, 2004 6:36 AM

We're still third, but now at 13% (1849 votes). Farscape is 14% 1910 votes, Angel has leapt forward again at 28% 3897 votes.

Come on Browncoats!

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 10:27 AM

voted?

disappointed you can't vote again?

try installing a different browser on your computer and using that. it let me vote from the same machine with both ie and opera, and i haven't got around to getting hold of mozilla or anything else yet.

get downloading. get voting :)

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 1:26 PM

ANGEL is now at a whopping 30%, 4500 or so votes...more than double the votes for Firely!

Come on Browncoats!!

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 2:19 PM

Firefly is at 2nd place with 2010 votes!

Angel has 4442
Farscape has 1994

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 3:06 PM

Voted.

Firefly 13% 2027 votes
Angel 30% 4517 votes
Futurama 10% 1525 votes
Farscape 13% 2024 votes

Let's stay ahead of Farscape, Browncoats! The top two should be Whedon shows!

"I left my heart in Serenity Valley"

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 3:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eviltobz:
voted?

disappointed you can't vote again?

try installing a different browser on your computer and using that. it let me vote from the same machine with both ie and opera, and i haven't got around to getting hold of mozilla or anything else yet.

get downloading. get voting :)

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I'd rather win by fair means thanks all the same. If the site think we have cheated Firefly could be disqualified.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 3:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wren:

I'd rather win by fair means thanks all the same. If the site think we have cheated Firefly could be disqualified.



I agree. This kind of piling-on at tvshowsondvd.com got caught. Voting was stopped twice and votes were removed, to the embarrassment of the fans of Wonderfalls. If there's enough fan interest in Firefly -- and why shouldn't there be? -- then we should make enough of an impact. I don't think we need to chase Angel either.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 3:43 PM

I think 13% is pretty impressive, considering the relative audience sizes of the shows - that a show so few have had a chance to see should do so well might just turn some heads!

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 3:59 PM

Quote:

I'd rather win by fair means thanks all the same. If the site think we have cheated Firefly could be disqualified.
This isn't a contest we can win or a test we can cheat on.

It's about creating new fans. The only reason we should vote for "Firefly" on polls such as this is in the hopes that people ignorant of the show will glance at the poll, see the big numbers for 'Firefly', and get curious. The more fans we can create, the better the movie will do, and hopefully we can ensure our BDHs will be around for a long time.

Vote and vote OFTEN.

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 4:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tiger:
Quote:

I'd rather win by fair means thanks all the same. If the site think we have cheated Firefly could be disqualified.
This isn't a 'contest' we can win or a 'test' we can cheat on.

It's about creating new fans. The only reason we should vote for "Firefly" on polls such as this is in the hopes that people ignorant of the show will glance at the poll, see the big numbers for 'Firefly', and get curious. The more fans we can create, the better the movie will do, and hopefully we can ensure a long history for our BDHs.

Vote and vote OFTEN.

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.



Tiger is correct. We must raise awareness about the show and convert as many new fans as we can.

As for the poll, here are the results as of 11:55 EST:

Firefly 13% 2062 votes

We are tied for 2nd place % wise w/ Farscape, though we have a mere 15 more votes than they do. We are well behind Angel though.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 4:38 PM

Huh, how long this poll been on?

FF 13%
Angel 30%
Sports Night 6%
F&G 6%
Boomtown 5%
Futurama 10%
Farscape 13%
The critic 2%
Dark Angel 8%
The Tick (Live) 2%

Need more browncoats.

But, to be honest, there are more Angel fans than FF fans. And FF is number 2 in ranking! (2076 for FF vs. 4675 for Angel) Need 3k votes to push FF over, assuming no one else votes significantly for Angel.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 5:00 PM

Voted for Firefly, but all those good shows. Most of which were from Fox.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 5:06 PM

Well, right now we're beating Farscape for second place by only about 20 votes. I don't know if we'll catch up to Angel, but pulling a second sure isn't bad when one show is dominating the poll. Just get some more in there and we'll have a solid second place finish.

-Psychic, though? That sounds like
something out of science fiction.
-We live in a space ship, dear.
-So?

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 5:40 PM

bump

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:37 PM

bump

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 10:31 PM

We're about 70 votes ahead of Farscape right now, and that's translating into a percentage point (we're at 13%, Farscape is at 12%).

Personally, I'd like to see a "fair" poll myself, just because I'm curious. I'm really confused what people like about Farscape (and yes, I saw the entire series on DVD). Do they get excited when Dargo fires his sword? Do they think the pale cat-chick is sexy? What?

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Friday, July 2, 2004 12:11 AM

Current results as of 8:00 pm 7-1-04 eastern time:

Firefly: 13% 2276
Angel: 31% 5399
Farbehindscape: 12% 2192

Oh, and BTW, Borders had 3 copies and I lined them all up in front of the others. All in a prominent row.

Mal-licious

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Friday, July 2, 2004 3:16 AM

Farscape has taken the number 2 slot from Firefly...

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Friday, July 2, 2004 8:22 AM

......and now the poll is something about TV dads. So, Firefly ended up third? Oh, well. Hey, that's pretty good for a show that only aired, what?, 11 eps 2 years ago? I'm kinda proud.

Mal-licious

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Friday, July 2, 2004 6:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skydance:
I'm really confused what people like about Farscape (and yes, I saw the entire series on DVD). Do they get excited when Dargo fires his sword? Do they think the pale cat-chick is sexy? What?

Can't/won't speak for anyone else, but what I liked was the "back to SF basics" feel of Farscape.

I mean, looking at most SF (yes, even including Firefly), the SF elements are used as set-dressing. The stories are about individuals --about people, living in a "real" world.

Farscape had bits of that (the D'Argo/Chiana/Jothyn triangle, Aeryn/John, Crais and Scorpius' redemptions, etc), but it went back to "golden age" SF in a way that most shows don't. The aliens actually played a role by their alienness --especially in S4 when they got back to Earth and got a chance to comment outright (something that even original Trek could only do obliquely) on the problems/contradictions of human society.

Also, John Crichton was what every geek wishes he was. On one hand, he's a brilliant physicist (Farscape-1's wormhole-making engine was his own invention) and a sci-fi geek (he compares a planet to Dagobah, and recognizes a Star Trek TNG reference when it drops into his lap), but he's also the dopy star quarterback and "The Right Stuff"-style astronaut.

Thirdly, it belongs to that "alternate" school of SF.

See, when SF writers start out, we're told in no uncertain terms what we can and cannot do. We cannot write aliens. No matter how hard we try, we are simply not capable of describing anything outside the realm of human thought/experience. And even if we succeed, no one will want to read/hear/see it.

There are some who accept this, and go on to write brilliant character studies of humans living in a hostile world (Firefly), or of allegorical aliens manifesting from the human psyche (Star Trek), or archetypal myths playing out in space (Star Wars).

Then there are people like me, who take that "Law" as a direct challenge. We try to outdo each other with the most out-there, inhuman aliens we can create. We write first-person narratives from the perspective of a barnacle, and romances between species who are sexual cannibals, and stories of "gods" who are just really good programmers. . .

Typically, us "wierdos" end up working mostly in text and selling to pulp magazines. Eventually, we'll graduate to novels, and maybe manage to sell screenrights to someone who'll revise us into mediocrity and cast the latest Big Name to star. If we want to hit it big, we have to "streamline" our writing into what's "normal" and "interesting."

Farscape, to me, marks the first time any of "us" have managed to create a TV franchise.

When I first saw "Bad Timing," I didn't realize that the cancellation had caught them by surprise; I thought the out-of-the-blue cliffhanger was intentional. It was just such a perfect slap in the face to the "traditional" SF community. The two most human characters were gone, inexplicably. Everyone wanted to know more --the story was not over!

But there're no humans. Who wants to hear a story about a bunch of random aliens? The end.

Plus, I consider "Revenging Angel" (a.k.a. "The Looney Tunes Episode") to be equal to "Hush" (Buffy's silent ep), "Once More With Feeling" (the Buffical), and "Smile Time" (Muppet Angel) as some of television's greatest works of self-satirical art.

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