Yahoo Poll

POSTED BY: rhuttner
UPDATED: Friday, July 2, 2004 18:46
VIEWED: 19227
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IANING

Thursday, July 1, 2004 5:00 PM

Voted for Firefly, but all those good shows. Most of which were from Fox.

ARDEN

Thursday, July 1, 2004 5:06 PM

Well, right now we're beating Farscape for second place by only about 20 votes. I don't know if we'll catch up to Angel, but pulling a second sure isn't bad when one show is dominating the poll. Just get some more in there and we'll have a solid second place finish.

-Psychic, though? That sounds like
something out of science fiction.
-We live in a space ship, dear.
-So?

TIGER

Thursday, July 1, 2004 5:40 PM

bump

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BRITCHICK

Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:37 PM

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SKYDANCE

Thursday, July 1, 2004 10:31 PM

We're about 70 votes ahead of Farscape right now, and that's translating into a percentage point (we're at 13%, Farscape is at 12%).

Personally, I'd like to see a "fair" poll myself, just because I'm curious. I'm really confused what people like about Farscape (and yes, I saw the entire series on DVD). Do they get excited when Dargo fires his sword? Do they think the pale cat-chick is sexy? What?

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MALICIOUS

Friday, July 2, 2004 12:11 AM

Current results as of 8:00 pm 7-1-04 eastern time:

Firefly: 13% 2276
Angel: 31% 5399
Farbehindscape: 12% 2192

Oh, and BTW, Borders had 3 copies and I lined them all up in front of the others. All in a prominent row.

Mal-licious

TIGER

Friday, July 2, 2004 3:16 AM

Farscape has taken the number 2 slot from Firefly...

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

MALICIOUS

Friday, July 2, 2004 8:22 AM

......and now the poll is something about TV dads. So, Firefly ended up third? Oh, well. Hey, that's pretty good for a show that only aired, what?, 11 eps 2 years ago? I'm kinda proud.

Mal-licious

CYBERSNARK

Friday, July 2, 2004 6:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Skydance:
I'm really confused what people like about Farscape (and yes, I saw the entire series on DVD). Do they get excited when Dargo fires his sword? Do they think the pale cat-chick is sexy? What?

Can't/won't speak for anyone else, but what I liked was the "back to SF basics" feel of Farscape.

I mean, looking at most SF (yes, even including Firefly), the SF elements are used as set-dressing. The stories are about individuals --about people, living in a "real" world.

Farscape had bits of that (the D'Argo/Chiana/Jothyn triangle, Aeryn/John, Crais and Scorpius' redemptions, etc), but it went back to "golden age" SF in a way that most shows don't. The aliens actually played a role by their alienness --especially in S4 when they got back to Earth and got a chance to comment outright (something that even original Trek could only do obliquely) on the problems/contradictions of human society.

Also, John Crichton was what every geek wishes he was. On one hand, he's a brilliant physicist (Farscape-1's wormhole-making engine was his own invention) and a sci-fi geek (he compares a planet to Dagobah, and recognizes a Star Trek TNG reference when it drops into his lap), but he's also the dopy star quarterback and "The Right Stuff"-style astronaut.

Thirdly, it belongs to that "alternate" school of SF.

See, when SF writers start out, we're told in no uncertain terms what we can and cannot do. We cannot write aliens. No matter how hard we try, we are simply not capable of describing anything outside the realm of human thought/experience. And even if we succeed, no one will want to read/hear/see it.

There are some who accept this, and go on to write brilliant character studies of humans living in a hostile world (Firefly), or of allegorical aliens manifesting from the human psyche (Star Trek), or archetypal myths playing out in space (Star Wars).

Then there are people like me, who take that "Law" as a direct challenge. We try to outdo each other with the most out-there, inhuman aliens we can create. We write first-person narratives from the perspective of a barnacle, and romances between species who are sexual cannibals, and stories of "gods" who are just really good programmers. . .

Typically, us "wierdos" end up working mostly in text and selling to pulp magazines. Eventually, we'll graduate to novels, and maybe manage to sell screenrights to someone who'll revise us into mediocrity and cast the latest Big Name to star. If we want to hit it big, we have to "streamline" our writing into what's "normal" and "interesting."

Farscape, to me, marks the first time any of "us" have managed to create a TV franchise.

When I first saw "Bad Timing," I didn't realize that the cancellation had caught them by surprise; I thought the out-of-the-blue cliffhanger was intentional. It was just such a perfect slap in the face to the "traditional" SF community. The two most human characters were gone, inexplicably. Everyone wanted to know more --the story was not over!

But there're no humans. Who wants to hear a story about a bunch of random aliens? The end.

Plus, I consider "Revenging Angel" (a.k.a. "The Looney Tunes Episode") to be equal to "Hush" (Buffy's silent ep), "Once More With Feeling" (the Buffical), and "Smile Time" (Muppet Angel) as some of television's greatest works of self-satirical art.

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