More Great Second Amendment Moments from America

POSTED BY: Magonsdaughter
UPDATED: Sunday, November 21, 2021 18:20
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
1. The purpose of guns is to maim or injury, or to threaten to maim or injure

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Hmm.

The purpose of the guns I own is generally to make holes close together in a piece of paper from far away. Occasionally it's to harvest wild game for my freezer. Sometimes certain of them are used to pulverize clay disks thrown onto the air. I have on occasion maimed tin cans and bowling pins. The people I know who own guns use them for pretty much the same things.

If the folks you know who own guns only use them to maim or injure actual people, perhaps you should associate with different folks.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


The issue isn't the purposes of those 2 things, it's the number of deaths each are involved.

A guns, as River puts it, is just an object. It doesn't mean what you think. The 2nd Amendment wasn't madness upon conception, it's the country which has gone mad.

Which means we need the 2nd Amendment now, more than ever.

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So purpose doesn't matter? Would you describe a dirty bomb in someone's garage as just an object? If I had a rocket launcher, do you think the that would be considered 'just an object'?

The evidence seems to squarely rest with more guns in circulation, more deaths, and certainly more unregulated guns = more deaths. But again, it's clear that 'truthiness' is more important to you than evidence, so it's pointless having this conversation, or any conversation with you.

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Truthiness ? You're gonna toss out some lame term from a comedian and put that up against the US Constitution and the 2nd Amendment ?

I'm dealing w/ absolute morons.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Well if you're not a gun wielding maniac, you're just UN American, it would seem.

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Spoken out of pure, concentrated ignorance.

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Originally posted by GEEZER:

Hmm.

The purpose of the guns I own is generally to make holes close together in a piece of paper from far away. Occasionally it's to harvest wild game for my freezer. Sometimes certain of them are used to pulverize clay disks thrown onto the air. I have on occasion maimed tin cans and bowling pins. The people I know who own guns use them for pretty much the same things.

If the folks you know who own guns only use them to maim or injure actual people, perhaps you should associate with different folks.

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deflection and incredible self absorbtion or as one would say here 'I'm okay Jack'

My own personal rocket launcher is used for hanging washing on. How dare you suggest that it's purpose is anything other than a clothes line. Get it?

Probably not.

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