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Wednesday, August 31, 2022 1:05 AM

So, why not provide money to Iran, to combat drought?

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Hundreds protest over lack of water in Iran's drought-hit west
In the past few months, thousands of people angry over the drying up of rivers have been driven to protest, particularly in central and south-western Iran.


https://www.thenationalnews.com/mena/iran/2022/08/25/hundreds-protest-
over-lack-of-water-in-irans-drought-hit-west
/

Why not North Africa?
Quote:

This 2-year-old is unable to walk. He's one of 6 million on the brink of starvation

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/08/02/kenya-drought-kiley-pkg-in
tl-ldn-vpx.cnn



When I have more time, I'll explain why.



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Wednesday, August 31, 2022 2:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, why not provide money to Iran, to combat drought?

Why not North Africa?

When I have more time, I'll explain why.

A better idea! Why not provide money to U.S. industry to remove CO2 from the air? That way the money stays in the U.S.A.! Indirectly, Iran and North Africa will benefit from better climate without any money being directly allocated to either.

It just so happens that it already happened!

U.S. Congress Passes Historic Clean Energy and Climate Investments

Bill will provide the most ambitious funding ever for tackling climate change.

August 11, 2022

https://www.nature.org/en-us/newsroom/us-house-passes-landmark-climate
-bill
/

No Republican Congressmen voted for this bill. I'm pretty sure no Republican Congressmen would vote to "provide money to Iran, to combat drought" as Signym phrased it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, August 31, 2022 2:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, why not provide money to Iran, to combat drought?

Why not North Africa?

When I have more time, I'll explain why.

A better idea! Why not provide money to U.S. industry to remove CO2 from the air? That way the money stays in the U.S.A.! Indirectly, Iran and North Africa will benefit from better climate without any money being directly allocated to either.

It just so happens that it already happened!

U.S. Congress Passes Historic Clean Energy and Climate Investments

Bill will provide the most ambitious funding ever for tackling climate change.

August 11, 2022

https://www.nature.org/en-us/newsroom/us-house-passes-landmark-climate
-bill
/

No Republican Congressmen voted for this bill. I'm pretty sure no Republican Congressmen would vote to "provide money to Iran, to combat drought" as Signym phrased it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




HUGE lie in that post.



We'll revisit this in 2030 so I can laugh even harder at you than I normally do.




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Wednesday, August 31, 2022 6:02 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

HUGE lie in that post.



We'll revisit this in 2030 so I can laugh even harder at you than I normally do.

The GOP has a NEW plan for climate change. The NEW plan calls for increasing domestic fossil fuel production and boosting exports of US natural gas. That plan increases, not decreases, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, so it won't actually stop climate change but it is different than the GOP's previous plan, which was "Climate Change is a Hoax!" New and improved slogan for the GOP: "CO2 is not a pollutant. It’s plant food. We want more, not less."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/22/republican-party-clima
te-issue


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, August 31, 2022 7:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, why not provide money to Iran, to combat drought?

Why not North Africa?

When I have more time, I'll explain why.

A better idea! Why not provide money to U.S. industry to remove CO2 from the air? That way the money stays in the U.S.A.! Indirectly, Iran and North Africa will benefit from better climate without any money being directly allocated to either.

It just so happens that it already happened!

U.S. Congress Passes Historic Clean Energy and Climate Investments

Bill will provide the most ambitious funding ever for tackling climate change.

August 11, 2022

https://www.nature.org/en-us/newsroom/us-house-passes-landmark-climate
-bill
/

No Republican Congressmen voted for this bill. I'm pretty sure no Republican Congressmen would vote to "provide money to Iran, to combat drought" as Signym phrased it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Another one of your "let's change the topic" ploys?

Well yes, of course!



The reason why Pakistan and not other nations is bc Pakistan managed to oust it's highly popular, independent-minded, uncorrupted Prime Minister Imran Khan, and replace him with a USA bootlicker who will let USA operate drones from Pakistan and do anything the "we" want re: Russia.

The current admin is gasping for support, and the USA wants to funnel $ that way to prop up that admin (and probably pay off a few key people).

Has NOTHING to do with drought... or floods... or climate change. It's just blatant political payoff.

Kind of like the latest legislation.



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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

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Wednesday, August 31, 2022 7:37 AM

Second just keeps digging himself deeper.

He's running out of threads that he hasn't ran away from with his tail between his legs.



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Wednesday, August 31, 2022 4:21 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

The reason why Pakistan and not other nations is bc Pakistan managed to oust it's highly popular, independent-minded, uncorrupted Prime Minister Imran Khan, and replace him with a USA bootlicker who will let USA operate drones from Pakistan and do anything the "we" want re: Russia.

The current admin is gasping for support, and the USA wants to funnel $ that way to prop up that admin (and probably pay off a few key people).

Has NOTHING to do with drought... or floods... or climate change. It's just blatant political payoff.

Kind of like the latest legislation.

Signym, all of your Pakistani political chit-chat is irrelevant to DC. I'm pretty sure the only fact about Pakistan that makes it interesting in DC is 165 nuclear warheads. [1] It would be justice if Pakistan nuked the US because the US is flooding the world with CO2 and causing floods in Pakistan. [3]

If Pakistan simply threatened to nuke the US over CO2, that might be sufficient motivation for the Republicans in Congress to pay for taking CO2 out of the atmosphere, but probably the Republicans would prefer to nuke Pakistan as a cheaper solution. Remember, Trump said "Climate Change is a Chinese Hoax!" [2] It follows that Pakistan is unfairly blaming the US for climate change and floods. [3]

[1] Nuclear Weapons: Who Has What at a Glance
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat

[2] Every Insane Thing Donald Trump Has Said About Global Warming
Well, most of them, anyway!
https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/12/trump-climate-timeline/

[3] Pakistan Blames Climate Change for Deadly Floods
https://www.voanews.com/a/pakistan-blames-climate-change-for-deadly-fl
oods-declares-emergency-/6718394.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, August 31, 2022 7:15 PM

Fuck Pakistan.

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Wednesday, August 31, 2022 8:40 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Pakistan.

The USA dumped every year about 5 billion metric tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere since you were born, 6ix. It is the USA that is fucking Pakistan by dumping its waste into Pakistan's air. But the Republicans in Congress want to continue the free dumping of CO2 forever and never pay for removal from the atmosphere. The total CO2, measured in hundreds of billions of metric tonnes, is flooding Pakistan.

Carbon dioxide emissions from energy consumption in the United States from 1975 to 2021
https://www.statista.com/statistics/183943/us-carbon-dioxide-emissions
-from-1999
/

Since the USA's waste CO2 is hundreds of billions of metric tonnes, and the cost to remove the waste will be more than $1 per tonne, this is a pretty expensive waste treatment problem.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, August 31, 2022 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

The reason why Pakistan and not other nations is bc Pakistan managed to oust it's highly popular, independent-minded, uncorrupted Prime Minister Imran Khan, and replace him with a USA bootlicker who will let USA operate drones from Pakistan and do anything the "we" want re: Russia.

The current admin is gasping for support, and the USA wants to funnel $ that way to prop up that admin (and probably pay off a few key people).

Has NOTHING to do with drought... or floods... or climate change. It's just blatant political payoff.

Kind of like the latest legislation.

Signym, all of your Pakistani political chit-chat is irrelevant to DC. I'm pretty sure the only fact about Pakistan that makes it interesting in DC is 165 nuclear warheads.

Jeezus, you're stupid.

If the USA elite were REALLY worried about enemy - or even frenemy- nuclear warheads, we would be hemorrhaging money into Russia, China, N Korea, India and maybe even Iran (we;re already hemorrhaging money into Israel), and signing (and abiding with) every nuclear control treaty we could manage to wrangle out of every one of them.

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