Gender and Violence and Blame
POSTED BY: Magonsdaughter
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 25, 2026 20:14
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All I'll say is that well-taught martial arts classes are a good thing.
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Interesting insights Hero.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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Quote:Teach all women to depend on each other, not some asshole guy who's going to exact his pound of flesh. SOME of those women would LOVE to be major ass-kickers. I'm all for division of labor, and besides, I'm too old to be an ass-kicker. If they will do the ass-kicking for me, I will be the herbalist and gardener and computer-builder. (I'm learning!)
Conclusion: it happens everywhere. Alternate conclusion: teach all women to kick major amounts of ass.
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Quote:Interesting, but it is not the possession of a gun in and of itself I conjure, rather the mentality that unacceptable shit will not be tolerated, and the choices that stem from it (as well as a perceptible attitude that is recognizable to predators as 'risky').
Originally posted by Hero:
I have NEVER met a women who owns a firearm who has been the victim of Domestic Violence.
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Quote:No you're not. Well, you may not want to get into regular weekend bar fights, but to old for Tai-Chi? Balderdash.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
besides, I'm too old to be an ass-kicker.
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
All I'll say is that well-taught martial arts classes are a good thing.
Guns, not fists. I've had victims with self-defense backgrounds. They don't fight back or if they do fight back the Defense claims she started it and the poor fella was defending himself from the girl gone wild...also known as the 'bitch be crazy' defense.
Yep, the 'bitch' family of defenses. Lie, crazy, deserved it...and the 'bitch, what you talkin bout' defense where they argue that not only did it never happen, the fella has an alibi and has no fracking idea what the hell this is all about.
I regret the use of the term 'bitch' but its a legal term of art in this context.
As for guns...I've had the cases where the girl shoots the 'bastard'. Then we get into the 'son of a bitch deserved it' defense...also known as battered woman syndrome. I like battered woman syndrome because I can use it to explain to a Jury why the woman stayed with a repeat abuser or why she is changing her story on the stand. This past year has seen a lot of science become available for the using battered woman against an abuser rather then in defense of a female charged with murder. I'm urging our local abuse agencies to look into this from the female on male perspective to explain why men don't report abuse.
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Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012
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Quote:The POINT of a martial arts is that you will probably not need to use it, or if you do, not to the extent of 'beating up' someone.
Originally posted by Hero:
Guns, not fists. I've had victims with self-defense backgrounds. They don't fight back or if they do fight back the Defense claims she started it and the poor fella was defending himself from the girl gone wild...also known as the 'bitch be crazy' defense.
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Women stay with abusers because they don't have other options (or they don't see that they have options), not because they "can't" beat up (or shoot) their partners. Sometimes the barriers are financial, sometimes the barriers are cultural, and sometimes psychological, sometimes legal, but rarely is abuse about not knowing martial arts or how to use a gun.
In fact, for a better example of male violence, you might want to look at child abuse. Is blaming the child a realistic approach? Would teaching the child how to use a gun be the correct remedy?
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Quote:No, but me learning martial arts put an end to family violence in MY house. And no fight was even necessary.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Would teaching the child how to use a gun be the correct remedy?
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I agree with Chris, you are never too old to deliver a much needed ass kicking.
There's a reason why a common expectation of martial arts masters is of a little old man, half bowed over with arthritis. No reason it can't be a little old woman either.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeverMessWithGranny
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