Guns, Guns, Guns.
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Frem and Wulf came by their PTSD honestly;
Hello,
I wonder what a dishonest method of having post traumatic stress would be?
And I wonder if, when someone has something bad happen to them repeatedly, and to the people around them repeatedly, it can grow beyond someone's individual trauma and be considered an observation about the world?
I worry that people continuously dismiss Frem's 'problem' as being the product of his special pain, rather than acknowledging that he lives in a world where these sorts of things have happened with an appalling sense of the routine... and that HIS world is part of OUR world, not some construct of his imagination and not some inconvenient psychological tick.
--Anthony
Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz
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Quote:Son, I grew up in the house of PTSD, not only from my dad but also my husband. They both lived through indescribable horrors - my dad especially- that would prolly top anything you have to offer on the topic. And I can't tell you the number of times I've been told that the reason for all the craziness is because of "them". It can sound pretty convincing. Heck, parts of it are even true.
And I wonder if, when someone has something bad happen to them repeatedly, and to the people around them repeatedly, it can grow beyond someone's individual trauma and be considered an observation about the world?
Quote:Drive down any average street, in any city. The world you live in is quite often the world you choose to live in. Are you looking to score? Then you'll only see one thing. Are you looking for your boyfriend? You'll see something else. Traffic engineer? Bicyclist? Looking forward to going home? Dreading going to school? Autistic? A child going to the mall to see Santa?
I worry that people continuously dismiss Frem's 'problem' as being the product of his special pain, rather than acknowledging that he lives in a world where these sorts of things have happened with an appalling sense of the routine... and that HIS world is part of OUR world, not some construct of his imagination and not some inconvenient psychological tick.
The world presents a multivariate experience. We humans filter what we are trained to see, according our past experience. Frem's experience is part of the larger whole, but it is not the whole thing.
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The problem with accepting men as more violent - by nature- and women as more nurturing- places women in the "second class citizen" category permanently, and children are even lesser than that. So sayeth biology.
But woman have a strength that men don't have (as much, it needs to be beaten into them during moments of high stress) and that is the natural act of cooperation. The minute women became isolated from each other and divided up into men's homes, they lost the capacity to think and organize differently. Perhaps we need to revive the Beguinage
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At the start of the 12th century, some women in the Low Countries lived alone and devoted themselves to prayer and good works without taking vows. At first there were only a few of them, but in the course of the century, their numbers increased. This was the age of the Crusades, and the land teemed with widowed women—the raw material for a host of neophytes. These single women tended to live on the fringe of towns, where they attended to the poor. About the beginning of the 13th century, some of them grouped their cabins together to form a community, called Beguinage.
The Beguine were not nuns; they did not take vows, could return to the world and wed if they chose, and did not renounce their property. If one was without means, she neither asked nor accepted alms, but supported herself by manual labour, or by teaching the children of burghers. During the time of her novitiate, she lived with "the Grand Mistress" of her cloister, but afterward she had her own dwelling. If she could afford it, she was attended by her own servants. She was bound to her companions by having the same goals in life, kindred pursuits, and a community of worship.
They had no mother-house, nor common rule, nor common general of the order; every community was complete in itself and fixed its own order of living
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Son
Hello,
Hello Daughter. I trust this is some religious/spiritual thing, and not that you are talking down to me in a dismissive fashion. We are all Sons and Daughters of the Universe or some such?
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I grew up in the house of PTSD, not only from my dad but also my husband. They both lived through indescribable horrors - my dad especially- that would prolly top anything you have to offer on the topic. And I can't tell you the number of times I've been told that the reason for all the craziness is because of "them". It can sound pretty convincing. Heck, parts of it are even true.
So it seems you grew up in a world of people you considered to have a damaged perception of reality. People whose reasoning and vision of the world you found untrustworthy.
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We humans filter what we are trained to see
Yes, this is probably true of all of us. At times, I feel that anyone whose perception of the world differs from your own is dismissed. Everyone who thinks differently is sick or fooled or damaged or deranged. It might be true sometimes, but I don't think it's true as often as you think it is. If we filter the worlds we look upon, I wonder what filter you apply.
--Anthony
Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz
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Quote:Trustworthy sometimes, but not all the time
So it seems you grew up in a world of people you considered to have a damaged perception of reality. People whose reasoning and vision of the world you found untrustworthy.
Quote:Often what I find is true but incomplete.
Yes, this is probably true of all of us. At times, I feel that anyone whose perception of the world differs from your own is dismissed. Everyone who thinks differently is sick or fooled or damaged or deranged. It might be true sometimes, but I don't think it's true as often as you think it is. If we filter the worlds we look upon, I wonder what filter you apply.
My personal goal... one which I will never achieve before I die... is to filter as little as possible. It is something that I'm really horrible at. But when people "see" things that I don't see.... come up with insights that are so unexpected but ring so true they change my mental landscape .... well, that's a privilege. I realize quite often that the reason why I didn't "see" the same thing.... although the same evidence was laid in front of me... was because the connections between that data crossed assumptions which are so automatic they impose their own organization, even when it doesn;t make any sense.
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But woman have a strength that men don't have
Hello,
Ah, the ability to endure childbirth, no doubt.
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and that is the natural act of cooperation.
I see.
--Anthony
Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz
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I find it as unlikely that men don't have strength in cooperation as I do that women do not really have physical strength.
None of this, none of the history and actions of either gender makes sense if this were true. Ultimately the genders are more similar than they are different.
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Therez a well established cauzation and correlation between testosterone and violent behavior.
Gender differencez in co-operation iz an interesting subject. Woud we still be living in cavez if women didnt force greater levelz uv co-operation on men?
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Originally posted by JO753:
Therez a well established cauzation and correlation between testosterone and violent behavior.
Strange but True: Testosterone Alone Does Not Cause Violence
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-test
osterone-alone-doesnt-cause-violence
Hello,
Violence is more complicated than you think.
--Anthony
Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz
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^Friggin' yes.
People need to stop quoting all those old 1950s to 1970s evolutionary psychology studies that they made their conclusions based on what they expected to find. It's all junk science.
Estrogen can also increase aggression and violent tendencies. (Insert PMS joke here) But it's only tendencies, it's not direct causation for either testosterone or estrogen. Which is to say, personality and environment are the big drivers, not inherent chemical makeup.
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