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Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:25 AM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
dear lord, how do you work the 'ignore' function on this site?



Hello,

It's a fucking chore scrolling through all that bullshit, ain't it? If I drank, it'd drive me to it.

--Anthony




Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz


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Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:49 AM

Love it, Anthony :)

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Saturday, July 28, 2012 8:35 AM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
I think that's what the problem is with MOST of you. You still wanna believe that people are good natured and WANT to be good. Newsflash! They aren't!
The vast majority of people that stay straight do so because of FEAR. Because inside we are all little outnumbered kids who do what they're told and are afraid to step outside the line. People in general DON'T QUESTION because they simply DON'T WANT TO. (How 'bout Santa Claus for starters, let alone religion... )


I call bullshit.

For example, the incredibly destructive, yet obviously ludicrous MYTH that we're all raging pyschos kept in check by force, almost always offered by someone with an agenda being the one holding that leash, it's bullshit, and it was bullshit all the way back through history, the divine right of kings, and people who claimed to be the voice of god.
And yet you don't fucking question THAT, do you, just chug-chug-chug the kool-aid and then flame people trying to tell you it's poison, of course.

Firstoff, if we needed government to civilize us, how the hell did we build civilization in the first place, hmmm?
But if you want real, hard core, practical proof - one trip to the grocery store utterly fucking proves it.

First there's the roads and highway - people do not obey those rules out of fear, out of concern for punishment, they do so because cooperation is the ONLY WAY IT WILL EVER WORK EFFECTIVELY, and despite the occasional asshat, it *does* work, because they cooperate, because they CHOOSE to cooperate, it's a hard-wired part of our nature which is what allowed us to conquer our environment and build civilization, duh.
Case in point, construction and those shitheads who try to rush down the shoulder and dart in cause they think themselves more important, most of the time there's also some folk who move their cars out onto the shoulder, taking a small risk, for NO gain to themselves, and block these uncooperative fuckheads - not really a selfish act that, is it ?

And then you get to the store, and again, the general rule, the DEFAULT, is cooperation at the register line, people CHOOSE to play along, cause it's the only way it can work effectively, plus you often have folks (and I happen to be one of em) who will wave someone with less items in ahead of them... and so on and so forth.

NONE of this would be possible if that bullshit myth of selfishness held an ounce of water, not without a fuckton of armed goons, anyways.
Beyond that, there's the work of Perry and other noteable scientists who've completely PROVEN it, beyond doubt - humans are HARD-WIRED for cooperation and empathy, those vanishingly rare few who are not are genetic misfires, who only "succeed" because they've managed to sell that bullshit myth enough to put them on top of the heap since few people QUESTION it, and fewer still are willing or able to blow it to hell when presented to them.

Mind you, we've KNOWN this, a lot of us, since 1754 via Rosseau, and refined in 1902 by Kropotkin.
http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/kropotkin/mutaidcontents
.html


So it's not us that are the cause of tragedy and carnage, it's you.
So long as you hold so dear to a complete fiction which is in my opinion the very core of most of todays evil, you are not in any way the solution because you are part of the problem.

And of course, so quickly do you dismiss this electronic world as irrelevant despite having witnessed it's effects upon society, the way the razor of truth can be applied to political and social lies, astroturfing exposed, smear campaigns destroyed - and so easily do you dismiss that which you know has meaning, perhaps because now that you've pulled off the mask, you wish that what has been witnessed can be unseen.

Nope, not happening.

-Frem

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Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:59 AM

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The former graduate student accused in the Colorado movie theater shooting was being treated by a psychiatrist at the university where he studied, according to court papers released on Friday.

Defense attorneys for James Holmes, 24, made the disclosure in a court motion, which sought to discover the source of leaks to some media outlets that Holmes sent the psychiatrist a package containing a notebook with descriptions of an attack.

The motion says the package contained communications between Holmes and Dr Lynne Fenton that should be shielded from public view.

A message left with Fenton's office was not immediately returned. The package was seized by authorities Monday after it was discovered in the mailroom at the University of Colorado, Denver. It's unclear if it was sent before the attack early last Friday.

Calls to Holmes' lawyer, Daniel King, were referred to the head of the Colorado State Public Defender's office, Douglas Wilson, who was out of the office and did not immediately return a message seeking comment.



from The Guardian



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Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:32 PM

Frem you believe what you wanna believe. People have good days and bad, but there is a reason they make laws for just about everything, and a reason jails are full to bursting.

Anthony, ask just about any person in the medical field and they will all say they fairly hate humanity, but still would like to help even though it's pretty much useless.

Magons, it's called setup for insanity. He planned this crap for months, you don't think he spent just as much time planning a way out for his stupid self?

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Saturday, July 28, 2012 3:38 PM

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Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:05 PM

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
there's the work of Perry and other noteable scientists who've completely PROVEN it, beyond doubt - humans are HARD-WIRED for cooperation and empathy


Yep, it's very prevalent in countless brain functions.


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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
So for most people, whether it is easy or not, whether it is profitable or punished, it's STILL A CHOICE, and they CHOSE this path, which limits my sympathy for them.


I don't disagree on any particular point. And clearly, even someone with the rarified brain anatomy of a psychopath can actually be a decent human being, a scientist working on questions that could better society.
You made a point about psychotropic drugs, and I definitely agree that their use should be limited. I'm hoping that, someday, I can do research that will find better, safer methods for rebalancing the brain chemistry that can be thrown off-kilter by, oh, so many things. A few such things are already known, but it would be thrilling to discover more. I'm also going to operate on a platform that no drugs should be prescribed without an actual diagnostic test of a patient's chemical state. I had a neurotransmitter test that changed my life, and it was painless and pretty affordable, particularly weighed against the benefits it gave me. I don't think a few sessions with a psychiatrist (which probably would have cost the same) would have yielded anything like the same results. (No, I didn't go on any drugs; there's a reason I know that effective alternatives exist.) I'm also opposed to children being on drugs that seriously effect their chemistry while it's still developing. There are instances where it might be necessary to medicate a child (I'm talking things like chronic epilepsy or other serious conditions that could lead to injury or death) but the prevalence of child medication for "behavioral disorders" is heartwrenching to me, and it's out of control. Yeah, maybe it really is a disorder, but I think it often isn't. Even if it is, a lot of things stabilize after puberty, and that chance should be given. Just feeding a kid the right food can have a profound impact, and that should be the first resort. Concentrated nutrients in supplemental form should be the next one, though some of those can impact chemistry to the point where I'd be hesitant. Serious, intense drugs should only be a resort if someone's life is literally at stake.


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:13 PM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
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The former graduate student accused in the Colorado movie theater shooting was being treated by a psychiatrist at the university where he studied, according to court papers released on Friday.

Defense attorneys for James Holmes, 24, made the disclosure in a court motion, which sought to discover the source of leaks to some media outlets that Holmes sent the psychiatrist a package containing a notebook with descriptions of an attack.

The motion says the package contained communications between Holmes and Dr Lynne Fenton that should be shielded from public view.

A message left with Fenton's office was not immediately returned. The package was seized by authorities Monday after it was discovered in the mailroom at the University of Colorado, Denver. It's unclear if it was sent before the attack early last Friday.

Calls to Holmes' lawyer, Daniel King, were referred to the head of the Colorado State Public Defender's office, Douglas Wilson, who was out of the office and did not immediately return a message seeking comment.



from The Guardian




Hello,

I wish with all my heart that the psychiatrist had seen that document in time to alert the authorities.

--Anthony


Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz


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Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:39 PM

On the radio, dispatchers and cops were laughing at the sheeple at first, as they always do every day. The police scanner broadcast proves the cops were incompetently bungling around, not taking the 911 calls seriously, with almost no ambulances available. Only victims who could walk outside the theater were taken to an ambulance, if an ambulance was available. SERIOUSLY INJURED VICTIMS WERE ABANDONED BY POLICE AND LEFT TO DIE. POLICE DID NOT STORM THE THEATER AND SHOOT THE SHOOTER NOR RESCUE THE VICTIMS. Police cowered outside the theater until they were confident the shooter had escaped. There was zero containment of the crime scene and all shooters were allowed to leave. PROFESSOR James Holmes was sitting calmly in his white car closest to the theater exit, but was intoxicated and unaware of his surroundings, and was NOT wearing the police uniform and gas mask of the shooter, and was NOT in possession of any guns used in the shooting. The actual shooter was described by eyewitness survivors as 6 inches shorter than Professor James Holmes. Professor James was paid a $176,000 grant from Obama for mind control research and previously worked for Pentagon's DARPA, whose father is a PhD computer programmer with Pentagon's DARPA scheduled to testify to Congress about the LIBOR bank theft of $350-TRILLION dollars.



POLICE SCANNER LOG

5:23 Shooter still inside Theater 9 (cops cowering in fear outside)

6:40 Searching for suspect in gas mask

7:00 A suspect in gas mask from white car going back into theater

10:20 A shooter in a blue plaid shirt

12:00 Multiple shooter suspects

14:50 Magazine found from rifle

16:00 Searching for suspects with red backpack and black uniform

19:00 Clearing theater looking for shooters

24:50 2 shooters with gasmask and red backpack

25:50 Looking for suspect

31:30 Looking for suspect in police helmet with long gun

38:00 Check suspect's car with bomb unit

45:22 Check white vehicle tag 119ROC (James holmes) "Be sure we're not looking for anybody else"

56:30 Secure suspect's vehicle (James Holmes)

1:10:30 Tennessee vehicle tag Hyundai Accent suspected bomb (not James holmes)

1:12:20 Tennessee tag "clear" (Corryton) TN

AT NO TIME WAS THERE ANY DESCRIPTION OF THE ARREST OF JAMES HOLMES, NO NAMES NOR NUMBERS OF ANY POLICE OFFICER WHO ARRESTED JAMES HOLMES, NO DESCRIPTION OF WHAT JAMES HOLMES WAS WEARING, NO BACKGROUND CHECK OF JAMES HOLMES BY DRIVER LICENSE NUMBER, NO ANNOUNCEMENT TO OTHER COPS THAT THE ALLEGED SUSPECTED SHOOTER WAS UNDER ARREST, NO DESCRIPTION OF THE WEAPONS RECOVERED AT THE CRIME SCENE. DURING A REAL ARREST THE OFFICERS WILL NAME ALL THESE EVENTS IN THE RADIO TRANSMISSIONS.

http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2012/07/dark-knight-rising-for-new-w
orld-order.html

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Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Frem you believe what you wanna believe. People have good days and bad, but there is a reason they make laws for just about everything, and a reason jails are full to bursting.



Yeah, it's called MONEY.

Jailing Americans for Profit: The Rise of the Prison Industrial Complex
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-w-whitehead/prison-privatization_b_
1414467.html


And as usual, the first targets were juvies, something brought to light by that whole kids-for-cash scandal, which was never invested deeply enough, and the charges restricted to financial matters only since all involved didn't seem to give a shit that lives were destroyed, only that someone didn't get their cut.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal

The so-called justice system is complicit in this because of overlegislation, to the point where the average american unknowingly commits an average of three felonies a day.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574438900830760
842.html


Again, this myth, and much of government, is in fact the problem, yet masquerades as a solution, often to problems they created on purpose to begin with.

I offer in return, THIS, which when you seriously think about it, explains a whole damn lot.

Why Does the World Feel Wrong?
http://www.strike-the-root.com/91/groves/groves1.html
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Our battle for liberty appears not just as a conflict between those who want freedom versus those who want control, but instead as the battle between normal people and the psychopaths. I have found incredible explanatory power of our world within the psychopathic hypothesis: The world feels wrong because psychopaths run it. In a country trained to discount and ridicule all ideas more than a standard deviation from the average, coherent explanations of observable social phenomena don't get much press. Without understanding physical laws, we would never have gained the massive improvements in our quality of life from technological developments. Similarly, without understanding our social systems, we will never escape from the tyranny unleashed on us by psychopaths. We should spread the word and explore this rich vein of thought with vigor.

And HOW they wind up running it has a lot to do with people buying into that idiotic myth that humans are raving beasts in need of "control", and it just ain't so.

-Frem

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