George Lucas loses his mind
POSTED BY: OPPYH
UPDATED: Monday, October 24, 2011 00:35
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I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I was fed up with Star Wars in 1983 with the appearance of the Ewoks in RotJ. If he issued the first two films of the original trilogy on blu-ray, without the added scenes and FX, just remastering of the original prints, I'd buy them. Otherwise, I'm done with it.
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Speaking of Angry fanboys, check out what Simon Pegg Tweeted:
"Always loved Vader's wordless self sacrifice. Another Shitty, clueless revision like Greedo, and young Anakin's ghost. What a fucking shame."
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Originally posted by OPPYH:
"Always loved Vader's wordless self sacrifice."
Absolutely.
Blinking Ewoks are fine.
But more yelling... not so much.
I guess I'm done too.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Speaking of Angry fanboys, check out what Simon Pegg Tweeted:
"Always loved Vader's wordless self sacrifice..."
I'm no director, but I know what I like. The scene and Vader's actions screamed his thoughts, with out him having uttered 1 word. It was exactly as Luke had described, of the conflict with in him. The INTERNAL struggle Vader was dealing with, up until that pivotal point.
This ? It's comic book material, and patently lame comic book material at best.
Lucas should have just let the whole thing be, after the originals, and started off on an an entirely new saga. He has a universe of characters to pull from , and he easily could have taken up the story of any number of different heroes or villains, across the Empire, or the Republic, at almost any time period.
What a colossal waste.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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I have no problem with Lucas re-editing the original trilogy into a musical, with a new character called Lorge Gucas delivering a 10 minute pitch for toys, while turning Darth Vader into a compulsive bed-wetter. Just as long as we get the original films made available in the best possible format.
As for me buying this? Noooooooooooo. I'll watch the deleted scenes on YouTube and that'll be that.
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I really don't understand the flack that Lucas gets over this kind of thing. Nobody should be taking these things that seriously.
I'm a fan of Simon Pegg, but I'm really tired of his ranting and raving about what Lucas has done to Star Wars. Lets see what Pegg does for cinema 40 years hence? Dude needs to chill.
And of course Lucas should learn not to over tweak these things but it's his endeavour. Fella can do what the hell he likes with it.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Im about 10 years past getting upset over this kind of thing. I have several versions of the films now. Hell, the best version of ANH Ive seen is a fan-edit (Adywan's excellent ANH Revisited).
So, Im just not going to get bent out of shape. I think all those sad people who claimed Lucas "raped their childhood" shocked me into a sense of perspective where it just doesn't matter.
Im curious to see what's changed. I'll probably like some changes, and dislike others, and then move on.
So far - I don't mind the "Nooo!" I think it works here better than in ROTS, where it is really bad. I don't like the altered Kryatt ragon. The revised Han/Greedo shootout still has Greedo shoot first, but just barely, and it works for me. The blinking Ewok eyes are cool.
I do enjoy seeing some of the meltdowns people have, though.
I've seen the Adywan fanedit and it is good although I personally prefer ADigitalMans edits of all six films. He makes Phantom Menace pretty watchable (although there are better versions). There's a hell of a lot of fanedits out there of the six films and people should go looking for them as I'm sure they'll find one they like. And I'm sure HD versions will appear at some point as well.
I have to agree with you on the caring part as well. I'm past caring as I accepted long ago that he would keep releasing these films and keep making changes. I do think he should just leave them alone and be done with it but they're his movies so fair enough, he can do what he wants. He doesn't owe anybody anything. None of the changes drastically alter the story so it really doesn't bother me, most of them are cosmetic or not necessary. Some of the changes definitely don't work well for me (if at all) and I can understand folks not liking them but getting as worked up about it as they do isn't going to change anything in the bigger picture.
The 'raped my childhood' line always makes me laugh at the folks who say it, they need to get a grip with reality and realise what they are actually dealing with - a series of movies. However bad people think the PT is it's still just a series of movies and there are far worse/inferior movies out there, even allowing for individual taste.
At the end of the day different fans want different versions, like the purists who only want the 'true' original versions. I can see some merit to that argument but what if you saw the '78 version of Star Wars and not the '77 version. Should that also be released too?
As for Vader's new 'dialogue' in Jedi it falls into the category of 'not necessary' for me. I'll save judgement on the other changes until I've seen them.
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Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
I really don't understand the flack that Lucas gets over this kind of thing. Nobody should be taking these things that seriously.
Agreed again.
Unfortunately so many fanboys feel that they have some kind of ownership to the SW universe because it was 'a life-changing event' for them or just because they have spent so much time, effort and money on it. So when Lucas makes these changes or doesn't release the exact version of the film that the fanboy wants they feel outraged, like it's a personal attack on them or something of theirs.
Personally I do think enough is enough and that he's mucked around with them too much but it's up to him. I'll still be getting the Blu-rays. It'll be worth it to see them in HD.
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Agreed again.
Unfortunately so many fanboys feel that they have some kind of ownership to the SW universe because it was 'a life-changing event' for them or just because they have spent so much time, effort and money on it. So when Lucas makes these changes or doesn't release the exact version of the film that the fanboy wants they feel outraged, like it's a personal attack on them or something of theirs.
Personally I do think enough is enough and that he's mucked around with them too much but it's up to him. I'll still be getting the Blu-rays. It'll be worth it to see them in HD.
Indeed Lwaves. My own slant on it is that he should leave it alone too, but I know how difficult that can be. I do creative things every day as part of my job and because I'm often under a deadline I have to let it go sooner than I'd like. Often with some of the better ideas left out. Which really eats at you. So if I get a bit of spare time I'll give it another crack and present it again... But it's kinda done it's thing by then and it falls flat. Even if it's better than what was originally done. Fact is it did the job the first time.
I imagine it's similar for Lucas but of course on a grander and more profound scale. He must have so many little things that bug the hell out of him in terms of his own stuff that he can't help but try and implement the odd change here and there. It's probably the same preoccupation that drove him to such standards with the first set of films.
But I think the people who rally up and attack him with comments about how he raped their childhood need to take a moment and try undertake a project themselves. If they feel that strongly and angry about it they should use that to make their own creative endeavours. Much of art is born out of a reaction to what came before it.
Anyway. Chances are Lucas will have Star Wars reimagined in whatever new technology is out there waiting in the wings. It's his schtick. I'm actually surprised he hasn't done the retro 3D thing with them yet.
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Nope. Something's just not right with her smile. Best repaint the Mona Lisa again.
And again and again and again and again and again ad infinitum...
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