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My 10 year old in some FF related trouble

POSTED BY: JustDavid
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 21:57
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TOMTBA2004

Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:40 AM

ok, i didn't realize that chinese was so much like spanish. Sentences could partially change meaning depending on the situation (which is all you had to say) But the main thing i was saying and where i first got the translation from was that, the girl wacthed the show (and it is used as a "Holy s***" kinda way.) she took it from that and said it to a person but thinking it from the show. which would make no sense..Get what i am thinkig?

Ps. if you don't mind me asking how old are you and what nationality? I think it is kinda funny to people discussing the proper way of chinese and not being of the origin ourselves.

Have a nice day

TOMTBA2004

Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:41 AM

JASONZZZ

Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:19 AM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Quote:
Originally posted by BlazingBug:
"The true secret of giving advice is, after you have honestly given it, to be perfectly indifferent whether it is taken or not, and never persist in trying to set people right."--Hannah Whitall Smith
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Agree with you 100%
Wouldn't have it or take it any other way...
Thanks for quoting them.

Then I said, "Yet you persist." I don't know how much more clear I can make it.

I think you misunderstand quite a bit, let me sum it up and following me if you please.

I have explained time and again that the "parenting" tidbit about the cursing (which was simply that in my situation, I would model an alternative behaviour in addition to explain that cursing should not be done next time) was offered and that's it - take it or leave it. I certainly didn't obsess on it. So, I do agree with BlazingBug and his quotes absolutely.

However, what I do not agree with is the attitute of "I am not gonna listen to your yammering b/c I didn't invent me". My opinion is this completely NIH (Not Invented Here) attitude is complete lunacy.

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

I said:
"""
I will only comment on this, because quite frankly, I find your other ramblings... well... ramblings.
"""

Which you couldn't even quote properly. I didn't show you anything because I didn't feel the need too. I still don't. Which is clear by what I had written. Then you proceed to insult my intelligence and scold me?!?

I para-phrased that time. I would have been more careful had I wanted to quote. Since I didn't feel that you had taken the care to explain yourself. IAC, was that phrase really worthwhile to quote in complete accuracy. I think I got your drift in a shorter phrase. Anyways, I had all the important morsels that you wanted to impart - did I not? I didn't insult your intelligence. But I meant what was in there - seems you ran out of words or thought and decided to attack me with some meaningless yammering instead. I stated it so.

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

Let me say this. I am not a self prescribed intellectual. I am just good at what I do. I don't think that just because I get good grades. See below for my thoughts on grades.

I gathered that you would be an intellectual from here.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=4715&m=56449#56420

About midway down. I don't think it was out of context. I quoted a complete thought there.

"Those that are intellectuals will act out if they are not challenged. So, then this would make the problem worse. That is what it was with me, among others."

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

I think I am good because I have been mistaken for a 2nd year student by many other students when I was in 1st year and chosen for a summer research position after that 1st year. The research I did, how another student entering his graduate studies put it, "What someone would be doing after there 3rd or 4th year." This year I had a prof offer to go around and promote me to the other profs doing research because his grant ran out. Otherwise I'd be working for him.

I have been told by those above me (way above me with regards to education) that I impress them, pretty much no matter what I have done. I have been the best cook at the "restaurant" where I worked when I cooked. When I went to school to become a programmer I was one of the best that was there. When I was in the IT industry I was one of the best programmers in the shop that I worked at (Didn't start that way, but ended up that way.). I have been among the best students in Physics when I was there and as for Math... the profs seem to think I am good as well. If fact one has stated that directly to me.

Does any of this require logic. Clearly, all of it does.

Does any of this make me an intellectual? Maybe, maybe not. To me, it just makes me good at thi

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JASONZZZ

Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:39 AM

Hi Tomtba:

I am glad now that you can use the phrase "Ta ma de" with full confidence of what it could be.

I am interested in finding out more about your thoughts on and maybe some comparative examples on how Spanish can do the same. I believe many languages exhibit the same type of behavior - those linguists on the board might like to share a bit on what this type of deal is called in linguistic terms.

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Originally posted by Tomtba2004:
ok, i didn't realize that chinese was so much like spanish. Sentences could partially change meaning depending on the situation (which is all you had to say) But the main thing i was saying and where i first got the translation from was that, the girl wacthed the show (and it is used as a "Holy s***" kinda way.) she took it from that and said it to a person but thinking it from the show. which would make no sense..Get what i am thinkig?

Ps. if you don't mind me asking how old are you and what nationality? I think it is kinda funny to people discussing the proper way of chinese and not being of the origin ourselves.

Have a nice day

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SIGMANUNKI

Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:11 AM

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
I gathered that you would be an intellectual from here.

Sarcasm or not, can't tell b/c the tone of your previous messages had become hostile. And below as well.

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Not sure why you felt the need for the dissertation on that part of your background.

You insulted my intellect. It was an attempt to display that not only do I have one, I have what some think to be a damn good one. As in, not just my opinion. Nothing more.

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
I don't think it's honorable to abandon this conversation now, you have drawn me into this and invested quite a bit of time.

I am rather charged right now. Give it a couple weeks and I'll see where I am then. If you're still interested and I'm ok with it we can discuss the finer points through the message system at our user profiles. And if you do, restate your arguments here. I will have forgotten them by that time.

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
So if you are no longer continuing this, then I take to mean that:

0. you can dish out challenges and hack apart other's statements, but you are unwilling to accept like challenges.
1. you have nothing else you could offer - either revisions or further examples.
2. you find nothing further to accurately challenge the basis of my offering.
3. you would just rather be happy sitting at the top of your various pyramids and would rather either not provide mentorship or would rather not be challenged at all.

Funny you only pick the degrading options.

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"An airport gives a good cross section of the mentally unstable, doesn't it." -Me
"Also, I can kill you with my brain." -River

WHOODAHN

Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:29 AM

Isn't it fun to watch a simple thread take on a mutated life of it's own?

I feel like I just watched a new Fox reality series titled "Who's the Best Parent"

SERGEANTX

Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:30 AM

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Originally posted by WhooDahn:
Isn't it fun to watch a simple thread take on a mutated life of it's own?

On what do you base your definition of "fun"? Mutations require a genetic variable which you have failed to provide. Please explain.

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I feel like I just watched a new Fox reality series titled "Who's the Best Parent"

I don't know how you feel you are qualified make an observation like this. You've failed to support your position.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

ZORIAH

Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:03 AM

Gives Sigmanunki a virtual hug.

Jasonzzz: Here's me sharing a little tidbit. I'm sorry but from your very first post your tone came across to me as a little proscriptive, didactic and superior. You have asserted that was not your intention, that you were merely offering up your opinion, engaging in discourse. While it was not your intention to sound like you were taking some kind of moral high ground and implying that Justdavid's methods of upbringing were lacking compared to yours - that is the impression I got from your posts.

I do not think that anyone here wants to or condones bringing up a child without guidance and support, however we may disagree on the best approach to achieve the most positive outcome.

Therefore I think that *unsolicited* advice on child-rearing that springs from an implication of perceived shortcomings should be avoided here. If Justdavid had asked for tips or advice on the situation with Leita then I would have no problems with your responses, however I feel that this thread that started out as a cute anecdote about a father and daughter has turned into an unwarranted lecture.
Just my thoughts.

WHOODAHN

Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:36 AM

Exactly

SIGMANUNKI

Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:28 PM

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Originally posted by Zoriah:
Gives Sigmanunki a virtual hug.

My first virtual hug

And thanks to yourself and Whoodahn.

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"An airport gives a good cross section of the mentally unstable, doesn't it." -Me
"Also, I can kill you with my brain." -River