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Only there weren't any lies on my part.
There never are.
I'm not surprised you gleaned exactly nothing from my post.
You seldom do.
"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."
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And I sse it degenerated from there. Why does anyone here try to communicate with him? Just ignore the posts and go on your way.
1. The point was that "all Muslims know what it is", not that all didn't want it built. You repeated it: "Muslims KNOW what this mosque is , and what it stands for." That statement is pure bullshit.
The rest is, too...saying we're ignoring the threat of terrorism: what do you think we should be doing that you would consider NOT ignoring it? Ranting and raving and talking rabid hate and posting terrorist actions does exactly what? Well, besides showing an excessive obsession with FOCUSING on islamic terrorism. NOT being obsessed with it is not ignoring it.
As to calling people on their statements, Raptor makes a science out of overblown claims that "All" this or "all", and does it for nastiness sake. I see nothing wrong with calling him on claims such as that, JMO. MY opinion, nothing more.
And I'll ask the following, but again, it's not judgment of anyone, or saying what people "should" do, it's just my curiosity and confusion on what I see here: Why does anyone try to communicate with Raptor and those like him? You just get dragged into his mud puddle, where he keeps you with his back-and-forths for as long as he possibly can. Who benefits? Why bother? Why not go from Righteous' last post, which is when things really DID stop being adult, and discuss the reality put forth in that post?
Always blows me away when I come here after a time away, how nearly everything degenerates into the puddle of filth that it is so easy for Raptor to trip people into.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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Why does anyone here try to communicate with him? Just ignore the posts and go on your way.
Careful Niki - you've tried the same communication, even after swearing it off, and I bet you'll get around to doing it again. Don't berate others for taking their turn at bat, especially when Rappy leaves a fat one hanging over home plate. Of course I'm gonna swing at that sucker and put it over the wall.
Still, for the most part I do not engage Raptor directly. I know it's a waste. But I will discuss his posts with other people as I have here.
So why do I bother? Why not ignore him entirely? Because lies, especially lies repeated over and over by an intelligent and determined person, will fester and spread if left unchallenged. (Look at the death panel thing.) If this ridiculous vitriol has no counter point, it becomes the message that other posters and lurkers take away from this site.
I may not post often, and even go weeks without checking in, but I consider myself part of this community. I want any Muslim visiting this site to know that (by the majority of Browncoats at least) they will be judged by who they are and what they say, and not by what a very few insane assholes did nine years ago.
I have very little power over what's happening *out there* in the cowering, racist armpits of America, but I'll try to keep my own zones clean of the insanity. If that means smacking the Rap occasionally, so be it.
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Originally posted by Niki2:
And I sse it degenerated from there. Why does anyone here try to communicate with him? Just ignore the posts and go on your way.
I'm not the one degenerating the conversation. Story is. Again w/ the " ignore him " whine. And yet, here you are, NOT ignoring me. Dear god in heaven, here we go again ?
Quote:That statement is factual. I even backed it up, to which you still ignore it. So, I ask you..why should I even bother backing up my remarks with anything if all you're gonna do is dismiss them, out of hand ? Waste of my time, and shows how disingenuous you truly are.
1. The point was that "all Muslims know what it is", not that all didn't want it built. You repeated it: "Muslims KNOW what this mosque is , and what it stands for." That statement is pure bullshit.
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The rest is, too...saying we're ignoring the threat of terrorism: what do you think we should be doing that you would consider NOT ignoring it? Ranting and raving and talking rabid hate and posting terrorist actions does exactly what? Well, besides showing an excessive obsession with FOCUSING on islamic terrorism. NOT being obsessed with it is not ignoring it.
Or, you could start by calmly and honestly admitting there is a problem, and stop trying to play the equivocation game, by lumping the jihadists in w/ the mentally deranged , or angry Americans, upset at Obama's social agenda.
That'd be a nice start.
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As to calling people on their statements, Raptor makes a science out of overblown claims that "All" this or "all", and does it for nastiness sake. I see nothing wrong with calling him on claims such as that, JMO. MY opinion, nothing more.
No, YOU and your Lefty comrades overblown the claim, so you can weasel out of having to discuss the actual issues.
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And I'll ask the following, but again, it's not judgment of anyone, or saying what people "should" do, it's just my curiosity and confusion on what I see here: Why does anyone try to communicate with Raptor and those like him? You just get dragged into his mud puddle, where he keeps you with his back-and-forths for as long as he possibly can. Who benefits? Why bother? Why not go from Righteous' last post, which is when things really DID stop being adult, and discuss the reality put forth in that post?
Now this is precious, coming from you.
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Always blows me away when I come here after a time away, how nearly everything degenerates into the puddle of filth that it is so easy for Raptor to trip people into.
I'll tell you why. Because the Lefties like yourself are consumed with hatred and vitriol of things not coming from your utopian, PC world view. Anyone who says anything to the contrary to your belief system, you accuse of being 'racist', ignorant, anti - immigrant, or what ever you can think to grab from your short list of scapegoats and diversionary tactics.
And the beautiful irony of it all, is how 'diverse' and 'tolerant' you folks claim yourselves to be.
hi-larious.
"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."
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So why do I bother? Why not ignore him entirely? Because lies, especially lies repeated over and over by an intelligent and determined person, will fester and spread if left unchallenged. (Look at the death panel thing.) If this ridiculous vitriol has no counter point, it becomes the message that other posters and lurkers take away from this site.
1 - Site for me 1 lie which I've offered.
2 - Since you brought up the 'death panel' point, which never was one of MY issues, I'll respond anyway.
ObamaCare will, undeniably, result in top down, bureaucratic panels which will determine who gets treatment, and who does not. There won't be anything CALLED a "death panel", which is the only way anyone can state that there won't BE death panels, in the most technical sense. But the end will result will be, for all intents and purposes, a Federal Gov't body which will be in charge of who does or does not receive care...aka - a death panel.
'The decision is not whether or not we will ration care — the decision is whether we will ration with our eyes open."- Dr. Donald Berwick, President Obama's nominee to head the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services
It's not a lie. Call it semantics if you wish, but under no circumstances is that a lie.
You simply don't like Americans realizing what is going on here. You'd prefer everyone stay in the dark, not to ask questions, sit down, and just shut up.
"(I)t takes a long time to do the necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together to control the people." - Rep. John Dingell (D-MI)
And here I thought WE THE PEOPLE were in charge, Mr Congressman.
Just another CRAZY idea from us racist Americans, huh?
"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."
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If I said I came to these forums to learn more about the issues... well I wouldn't be lying, but I wouldn't be telling the whole truth either. It's amusing watching... or I guess reading the fights, and every now and again I read something that makes me think.
I agree with rappy (though perhaps not so much his aruement method) that Islam seems a mite more dangerous than most religions nowadays , probably because there just isn't enough good examples of Islam speaking out against the bad. Or maybe there are but we never hear about it, that's possible.
Sure there's some unsavory Christian, Jewish, and probably folk from most every religion, but I don't hear about them killing cartoonist because they can't take a religious joke either. I wonder if there is a reliable statistic as to acts of terrorism and how many are islamic terrorist. Or terrorist of other religions, that'd be interesting.
Anyway, I'll consider an opposing view point with an intelligent argument ('specially if they can provide examples). But when we get back into name calling and 'but these people did this' I don't take it seriously.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Shifting the goals posts, then.
"What I really meant was...."
You are such a douchebag, Rappy.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
You are the douchebag in this thread...even Niki2 is trying to bring it to your attention...
You fucking stupid cunt. How in the world can you sit here and make an asshole of yourself. QUOTE Aur...in the context of which you blather, otherwise shut the fuck up and stop being a skidmark...fucking fag. You smelly little ballsack....come to me cunt...come....I will own your mind...I will own your dreams....You, little prick, may be a bigger score than Kwicko. I look forward to our chats.......
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The effort to show perspective, as in how other religions have done reprehensible things in the past, is all we've been trying to do. And we have certainly said numerous times that Islam is at present the most dangerous, and abhorred their actions. The problem is that we don't do it constantly and we recognize that all religions can be, and HAVE BEEN prostituted through history. It's Islam's turn right now, as it was others' before and will be others' again. That does not make all Muslims bad, and our saying the above is what is being characterized as all the negative things you see; that we are "ignoring" the threat, that we feel "fuzzy warm" about terrorists, and on and on and on, in the most derrogatory terms possible and overblowing our position out of recognition. That's the crux of it. The argument (because it rarely reaches the civility of a "debate") has been going on ever since the New York Community Center stuff began...probably before, I dunno.
I'm happy to listen to opposing views, but not when what I have written directlly is denied, lied about, and thing are said of me which bear absolutely no relation to reality.
Mal4, I take your point and it's a valid one. I guess what I'm talking about is the back and forth; someone clearly explains, he says something only slightly related--or not at all--or denies, name calls, etc., etc. and it goes ON, same stuff, back and forth, and yeah, it even snags me sometimes. I try not to let it and I guess it hits me in the face when I've been away a couple of days and then watch it happen in a thread.
We posted statistics on terrorism...if I remember correctly, in America Muslims accounted for fully 6% of terrorist activities...Hispanics were way ahead with something like 24%; it's been a while, I can'tremember exactly.
There are also tons of examples of good Muslim activities, charitable actions, really wonderful things. I posted just a few, in detail, and links to lists of myriad others. It means nothing. You're right; we don't hear about them. It's not "news": "If it bleeds, it leads". But every terrorist act is covered in gory detail, and some people just eat it up.
So it's not quite the impression you get, Trader, of what's been happening here. Just to let you know.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off
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Originally posted by whozit:
So um....their next step is to fly airplanes into buildings, treat woman like 2nd class people, kill gays, censor Hollywood? Do ya think Christians will cheer when they do this? When the these people you defend take power do you think they'll let you live?
Why not, Christians cheer when they do it now. Plenty of Christians treat Women as second class, plenty try to censor Hollywood, plenty commit acts of terrorism, plenty cheered at the TV reports of the invasion of Iraq. American Christians cheer just as loudly at a smart bomb hitting a building as middle eastern Muslims do at a plane hitting the world trade centre. Of course it's different when they do the exact same thing...
Reminds me of Blackadder's portrayal of the first world war:
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George: The war started because of the vile Hun and his villainous empire-building.
Edmund: George, the British Empire at present covers a quarter of the globe, while the German Empire consists of a small sausage factory in Tanganyika. I hardly think that we can be entirely absolved of blame on the imperialistic front.
George: Oh, no, sir, absolutely not. (aside, to Baldick) Mad as a bicycle!
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Originally posted by citizen:
Why not, Christians cheer when they do it now. Plenty of Christians treat Women as second class, plenty try to censor Hollywood, plenty commit acts of terrorism, plenty cheered at the TV reports of the invasion of Iraq. American Christians cheer just as loudly at a smart bomb hitting a building as middle eastern Muslims do at a plane hitting the world trade centre. Of course it's different when they do the exact same thing...
" Plenty? " No, they don't. Unless you mean more than a handful as being 'plenty'.
And I don't know ANYONE who 'cheered' at the reports of us invading Iraq. Folks in the Mid East DID cheer and dance in the streets at the sight of the WTC being struck.
Also, a smart bomb hitting a military building is by no means " the exact same thing " as 19 hijackers slitting the throats of female flight attendants, pilots, and then flying commercial airliners full of civilians into civilian buildings,killing some 3,000 men, women and children.
Of course, if you insist that it is, then you'd be forced to agree that Islamic fundamentalists engaged in an act of war on the United States of America, and any retaliation by the U.S.A. was 100% completely justified.
"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."
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