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POSTED BY: AURaptor
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Because he is utterly incapable of looking at religions with anything like objectivity, yet still claims himself to be an "atheist", all the while simply refusing to see the evil done in the name of one religion, and being unable to see anything BUT the evil done by another.
And you're utterly incapable of looking at the violence done in the name of Islam, because it so stands your idiotic view of political correctness on its multiculturalism head. I point out where Gov'ts run by the religion of Islam, there are state sponsored beheadings, stonings, hangings, amputation of limbs, mutiliation of women... and there's NOTHING which comes anywhere close to that which could be viewed as analogous to Christianity.
The only "attempted" comparisons were the CIA, which is a laugh, and events which took place 100's of years ago.
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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Dude.
Instead of trying to have a fruitful discussion about those motivators, you return over and over to the least useful, most simplicistic, most childishly afraid distorted interpretation possible.
Why???
I'm feel no need to ignore that which everyone sees, but is too afraid to admit. Or it may be that many truly don't see the big picture, and blissfully go on about their days, believing what Katie Couric, Keith Olbermann and the rest of the MSM is telling them.
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It's like you're trying to dismantle any trace of complexity (in our world? In human societies?? Complexity? No way!) in order to be able to paint one bright bulls-eye target.
Sure you must be bright enough to understand that by discounting a true understanding of complex problems, you are also ignoring any path to a true solution?
So please, please, please, quit these "A muslim has done something bad. This proves all of Islam is evil" threads.
It's not just me, but former Muslims too, who are saying these things. I'll gladly distinguish between radical Islamo-fascists and 'normal' Muslims, if you acknowledge the vast number of brutal acts done in Islam's name, and stop trying to play tit for tat w/ any other religions as a means to diminish what's actually happening.
I'll freely admit that crazy isn't limited to just one religion. Preacher Jones in FL, the Westboro Baptist cult in KS, and damn near every t.v. evangelist are proof enough of that for me. But by a very large margin, those nuts of other religions are far less likely to take a life. One needs to look at the radicals of Islam, all across the globe, to see that fact.
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Also: Do you personally know any muslims? If the answer is yes, is your relationship with them hostile? Are they violent and evil? If you do not, how about getting to know some in order to gain some insight? None of the muslims I have met in my life (moderate, female muslima in university, mostly, but also mothers at playgrounds, store owners, people I meet through my job) have ever expressed ill intent toward me and instead were polite, friendly, some wickedly funny.
I'm going to take those experiences as equally respresentative about Islam, if not more so.
Or rather, it's got little to do with religion. There are decent people who happen to be religious and there are extremist terrorists who happen to be religious. Which religion each of them claim... pffft, barely relevant.
Anyone who is true to their faith and does not have plans to limit or hinder any of my personal freedoms and rights is o.k. by me. As for knowing any or being friends with any Muslims? Not as of yet. But I have no quota on friends or associates. I feel no desire to reach out to ANYONE simply because they're different. If there are common interests or areas where I happen to share with someone, then I really could care less what color they are, what religion they practice, or any of that superfluous stuff.
As Mal says, we're all just folk, and that's what I truly believe. You do your thing , I'll do mine, and as long as we don't try to get in each others way, it'll all be shiny. You start lobbing off body parts, shooting or blowing up folks , in the name of your god?
Then we've got a problem.
And truth be told, I don't know if this woman's faith had anything to do w/ her killing her co-workers. I just find it curious that she was described as being so spiritual, and then goes off and does something so heinous.
Sure, folks snap, for what ever reason,I get that. But the dichotomy of a 'peaceful', spiritual person going off and killing those who she thinks have wronged her.... instead of praying for them, or asking for strength from god/ allah to deal with life's obstacles... I find curious.
We're constantly told that Islam means 'peace', but it's not that simple. It means to submit, give up, stop struggling, and give yourself to Allah.
I'll pass on that offer, thank you very much.
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Rappy: the mistake you seem so willing, even eager, to make is to scapegoat a single religion. Islam isn't the problem, as has been shown in these threads. You have been given examples of peaceful Muslims. There are Islamic countries which are not violent. You continue to ignore this, which is why you continue to draw a false conclusion.
The extremity and violence that you point out is due to particular circumstances in a particular part of the world, and the unfortunate fact that religion is running the govt in these nations. That is the point of folks here bringing up the bloody history of Christianity: ANY religion, when given full governmental power, will go to that bad place. It is not a unique trait of Islam.
By continuing to see only the bad in a large and diverse group, by blaming millions of people for the actions of a few, you continue to be a part of the problem, not the solution. You also, though you may never see it, subscribe to the very mentality that drives the extremists you hate.
What's that saying? Something about: The things that really get under your skin are the things you don't like in yourself.
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And you ignore the vast number of violent acts which DO take place in the name of Allah.
The violence is NOT " due to particular circumstances in a particular part of the world" , as you try to suggest.
It's in the Philippines, Russia, Spain, England, Netherlands, Africa and of course, right in the good ol USA. Omit the Middle East, and you STILL have Islamic zealots committing more violent acts in the name of their god than all other religions combined.
You claim that I'M part of the problem ? You're IGNORING the problem is what's making it worse. Not me acknowledging it.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And you ignore the vast number of violent acts which DO take place in the name of Allah.
The violence is NOT " due to particular circumstances in a particular part of the world" , as you try to suggest.
It's in the Philippines, Russia, Spain, England, Netherlands, Africa and of course, right in the good ol USA. Omit the Middle East, and you STILL have Islamic zealots committing more violent acts in the name of their god than all other religions combined.
You claim that I'M part of the problem ? You're IGNORING the problem is what's making it worse. Not me acknowledging it.
And you COMPLETELY ignore - and outright DENY - that ANY violent acts are being done in the name of Christianity, anywhere.
You've been shown Uganda, which IS a Christian theocracy, and a damned brutal one at that, and which IS doing horrible things to humans in the name of their stupid god, and which IS being actively funded and pushed along in their religion-driven agenda by the Republican party here at home.
You've been shown, yet you will not see. There's no help for you, because you're truly blind, and too stone-stupid to even realize it.
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Uganda ?
That's the extent of your so called Christian theocratic gov't ? One tribal war in Africa ? Hell,
why not just bring in the Hutu/ Tutsi conflict, while you're at it.
Wow. That really makes the case.
Oh,wait... no it doesn't. Not even a little.
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Instead of facing the hard , cold reality of Islamic based violence, your knee jerk reaction is to first ignore the facts, followed quickly to search for something, ANYTHING to hold up as a means of saying " yeah? but they do it too! ". It's completely nonsensical bullshit. Even IF there were other religions who did anywhere near as much evil and violence as Islam does, what the hell difference would it make ? It doesn't in any way diminish or detract what terrorists do in the name of Allah !!
I find the Left does this routinely, anytime their sacred cows are threatened. You try to divert attention away from the facts by playing this game of equivocation, and there by getting out of having to deal w/ the initial issue.
You just try to create new issues, out of thin air, which leaves the real big problems forever unresolved.
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But you see, I only need post up a single example to refute everything you say. You've been claiming that such things HAVE NOT HAPPENED IN THE LAST 300 YEARS, aren't happening, CAN'T happen. You set yourself up to look like a fucking dumb-ass, and it's just so easy to oblige you and walk you right off that cliff while handing you an anvil.
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.
Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
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I find the Left does this routinely, anytime their sacred cows are threatened. You try to divert attention away from the facts by playing this game of equivocation, and there by getting out of having to deal w/ the initial issue.
Riiiiiigghhhht... And the righties around here would NEVER do that. Naaahhh - they'll just scream "SOCIALISM!" and run away.
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.
Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
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We never yell a single word, then run away. The Left does that, with nonsensical claims of " racism ".
And your " single " example of so call Christian sponsored violence proves MY point , all the more. It's only one, vs a world wide list of Islamo fascism, and it's more cultural than anything. There's simply no valid comparison w/ you example.
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