Three disasters, one cause: profit

POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Monday, June 14, 2010 21:15
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DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, June 9, 2010 10:55 PM

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I've been pointing out for years that we're already a socialist society.

Mike, good point. Of course, its important to remember that our govt will fuck anything it does up. Most large govts will. The swedes are likely to get it right, which is why socialism doesn't kill sweden. It's on large and small states with no stability that i think its really dangerous. Surely, so is capitalism, I'm sure there are some more stable ideas.

Frem,

I don't think that it's stupidity. I think they're being dishonest. In part, it's understandable, people feel so under attack, they defend things they wouldn't normally, but for the manipulative members, it's just dishonesty.

I find the term RWA is fairly objectionable. It has no basis in history and is used to shove all things evil onto the other half of the population. It's propagandistic, and serves authoritarians by giving the other half of the population a free pass, allowing them to be as authoritarian and abusive as they want. I read that book that promoted the term which was posted here. I respectfully disagree with the theory. I've found no difference on the herding or shepherding behaviors of the right and left over the years.

So, surely, I take your point, but I hope you can see that this absolutely goes on across the political spectrum, and that it is just as geared towards misinformation for stealth promotion of authoritarian dystopia on the left as I admit it is on the right.

Also, I humbly suggest that a large amount of what we might tnk of as manipulative operative behavior is actually just circular thought. If you only ever listen to, support and compromise with those who agree with you, and are close to your political perspective, you can head towards filtering out information and idea which come from an alien perspective.

If, on the other hand, you are willing to take the word of those whom you disagree, even in the extreme, like say, Osama bin Laden, then you fail to gain wisdom through a study of his analysis of the situation, even if you are predetermined to disagree with his conclusions.

I would certainly agree that there are a fair number on the right who do this, but I don't think they are operatives or authoritarians, they are just caught in cyclical thought, tot he point where their judicious pondering with the help of like minded folk has rendered them little more than parrots.

I also think it's safe to say that such thought patterns exists in equal quantities on the left as they do on the right.

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, June 9, 2010 10:56 PM

Anthony,

Not necessarily. It's possible to propose an alternative which does not interfere with the current system, and so reaches no opposition.

I live in the middle of a couple of societies that function on a different left. To the east of me are the satmars, conservative orthodox Hasidim. They run their lawn separate system while influencing local govt. to let them be, and get by with minor interference. To the west of me are the amish, and other menonites, who work on their kwn terms by assuaging the capitalist system with productive added value to business. Each works in part to the benefit of one of our extent systems, and by doing so, does not draw fire. Then, internally, each is allowed to do their own thing.

Btw, it wasn't until I got to your post that I realized that everyone, including myself, in their response attacked the govt, as the alternative. I suppose there are number of alternatives, like the two I just mentioned, which are both essentially theocracies.

Curious side note: in both societies, women where full cover clothing, all black in the case of the satmars, and in both, women wear headscarves. The point of this being why do I hear so much about "ragheads?" maybe SC wants to ban Christians from public office. Also, in the middle of a Hasidic colony there was an Islamic cultural resource center. I have to say that someone has balls of steel.

KWICKO

Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Guess what, dummies - it's not looking any better for you this year than it did in '08

The delusion of the day..no, week.... year ?

Who is it looking better for then. Democrats are reeling from blunder after blunder by this administration and their leadership.

Not sure what'll be more priceless come Nov 3rd. Your precious expression that morning because you had no idea, or because you knew, and just didn't want to accept it.

You should go look up the "It's Palin" post from '08. Your words were really hilarious. "McCain just won the election. Game over!"

What's really going to be funny on November 3rd is the expression on your face when you realize that Obama is still President.

Wanna put some money on whether the Democrats keep one or both Houses of Congress? Or did you think that the tea-baggers were going to sweep complete control of Congress from them? That is just PRECIOUS! Hell, the tea-baggers just handed Harry Reid an easy victory by backing a prohibitionist, IN NEVADA of all places! (So much for keeping government out of your business, eh?)

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

CATPIRATE

Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:31 AM

Sig, your right on. Oil has us right by the throat. We have so many problems because of oil. Lately I am just sick of it all.

CATPIRATE

Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:31 AM

Sig, your right on. Oil has us right by the throat. We have so many problems because of oil. Lately I am just sick of it all.

CATPIRATE

Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:32 AM

Sig, your right on. Oil has us right by the throat. We have so many problems because of oil. Lately I am just sick of it all.

That's odd it led me to an error page whoops double post.

KWICKO

Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:52 AM

Cat:

It's a site issue. New server, I think. Just hit the submit ("Post My Response") button ONCE, and trust that the reply made it through.

I think what's happening is that it throws up the error message, so people go back and hit submit again, causing the double-postiness.

Meanwhile, I'm sure Haken is working on it.

I notice the notifications are turned off, which is usually a sign that he's working on stuffs. :)

Meanwhile, we hold.

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

CATPIRATE

Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:51 AM

Thanks Kwicko, I was wondering what was going on. I've been moving around the last 9 months. Just now started posting again.

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:20 AM

Mit be the browser also. The form doesn't have a lock against double submit, which, haken , if your lurking, can be done with a message id as a unique hidden variable, stick it on the form submit.

But now, the new browsers are refresh happy, which is annoying as he'll, because kits of things just auto fail, ESP Ajax pages. Disabling refresh would be nice, I wonder if you can do that from the server side. Anyway, if it reloads the submit page, or you double click the button, it double posts. It hasn't happened to me for a while until recently, I just assumed it s iPad, because it double clicks, and safari reloads.

KWICKO

Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:45 AM

DT, I'm thinking not browser. I've run into the same issues with Explorer, Firefox, and Safari.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:
Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:37 To Fremdfirma:
Yeah, Frem. You miserable piece of shit.
" Daddy, did you plug the hole yet ? "
C'mere, Malia...

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
...oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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