Stand with Arizona
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UPDATED: Sunday, May 16, 2010 21:28
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Quote:Such a foolish question. I'd quite expect it from you.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Are you going to boycott every state that DOESN'T go along with Arizona?
But I'll make this deal with you Kwik. I'll consider Buycotting any state, city, company, or enterprise you boycott. Beyond that I'll allow the free market to work for itself.
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Quote:Kwicko: king of the glittering generality.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
You have such certainty, but you're certainly wrong.
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"So you guys are going to boycott AZ even though as Jongs mentioned, and I agree, it'll probably hurt the low wage and illegals? Seriously, when money gets tight who do you think feels it first?"
Hello,
I agree here. This is why the embargo on Cuba should be lifted. It's not hurting Castro.
If money gets tight in Arizona it will only heighten the hysteria against illegals.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
"You can lose a quark you don't girth." -Dreamtrove's words to live by, translated by Ipad
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:Quote:Such a foolish question. I'd quite expect it from you.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Are you going to boycott every state that DOESN'T go along with Arizona?
Let me guess: YOUR question, though essentially identical, was NOT foolish?
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But I'll make this deal with you Kwik. I'll consider Buycotting any state, city, company, or enterprise you boycott. Beyond that I'll allow the free market to work for itself.
In a free market, am I free to NOT shop where I *DON'T* want to? I thought you didn't like mandates; sounds like you're trying to say that I have to buy Arizonan, even if I don't want to. You are free to buy Arizona, or not, and I should be free to NOT buy from them. You seem to view "free markets" in that uniquely "libertarian" way, in that you feel you should be free to buy from anyone, but I shouldn't be free to NOT buy from those I disagree with.
Hey, maybe you can engineer a big bailout for Arizona when things get really bad because of the boycotts!
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:Quote:Kwicko: king of the glittering generality.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
You have such certainty, but you're certainly wrong.
Isn't that title a glittering generality in itself?
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Ah, my apologies. I read "Glen Birch Society" and wondered ?? Does she mean JOHN Birch?" ...then skipped right over the "right". Mea culpa, Jen.
As far as boycotting, yes, I will. Just as boycotting non-dolphin-safe tuna cost me for years, as I like tuna. Because I can't help it if the Latinos suffer, so will their employers, for one thing. Because if my boycott helps at all, it will help the Latinos. Because I refuse to support something I find so reprehensible.
As said, free market, my decision. The boycott of those bringing in tons more money than I ever could is already hurting them...my little bit follows my conscience.
"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
So you guys are going to boycott AZ even though as Jongs mentioned, and I agree, it'll probably hurt the low wage and illegals? Seriously, when money gets tight who do you think feels it first?
That's why I thanked Jongsie for his support of the boycotts. He claimed that boycotting Arizona would force illegals to leave Arizona. From what he's written, I take it that's what he WANTS to happen. So shouldn't y'all be GLAD we're boycotting Arizona, if you want the illegals gone from there? After all, if it hurts them, that makes you smile, right?
As for who feels it first, I'd wager that the lower-wage hourly LEGAL employees would be let go, so the companies that are hemorrhaging money can replace them with lower-paid illegals who they also won't be paying any taxes on.
If, as Reagan lovers like to believe, money spent at the top goes to the bottom, then NOT spending money on Arizona businesses should impact the business owners first, hurting their bottom line. My guess is they'll take it out on the legal workers before they will the illegal ones, because that saves them more money, and historically the risks and fines are so low that it's worth the risk to them.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
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"You seem to view "free markets" in that uniquely "libertarian" way, in that you feel you should be free to buy from anyone, but I shouldn't be free to NOT buy from those I disagree with."
Hello Mike,
Please confine your slings and arrows to their intended targets.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
"You can lose a quark you don't girth." -Dreamtrove's words to live by, translated by Ipad
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Mike,
Please confine your slings and arrows to their intended targets.
I'm suddenly struck by the urge to start singing Krokus's Ballroom Blitz!.
You'd have to have seen the video to get the joke though.
-F
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Let me guess: YOUR question, though essentially identical, was NOT foolish?
Um..no. Nope. Not foolish. My question, which by-the-by you have not yet answered, was to inquire if you intend to boycott other states when they pass similar measures. You have already stated you will boycott one state: AZ. This makes my question NOT foolish.
Your question however was foolish because it attempted to hijack my interrogative with a new one: who I won't boycott. I can't see why it matters what I personally will-or-won't do since I asked you first, but I'll answer anyway. I'm not boycotting anybody. I will however choose, like many other like-minded people to buycott where I choose. And there are plenty of resources to choose from to do so, such as: http://www.buycottarizona.com/
So will you answer? Will you boycott other states when they pass similar measures? You going to wrap yourself up in a boycott fever and maintain it?
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