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FOX Strategy Really Paid Off...........Idiots

POSTED BY: captaincdc
UPDATED: Saturday, March 13, 2004 00:47
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Saturday, March 6, 2004 4:23 PM

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Originally posted by Drakon:
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Originally posted by rklenseth:

Not a Republican so I frankly don't care. If the Republican Party falls then hopefully that will be a sign that the two party system will end.



This is the scariest, most illiberal thing I have read to date on this thread. I suppose all those who disagree with you will just have to shut up and take it then, huh?

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"



No they don't have to shut up but I believe in the pholisophy of George Washington.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Saturday, March 6, 2004 4:45 PM

What a nice political thread we have going here- And here all I wanted to do was get on and do a little Fox bashing- Nice numbers that you posted, it's no surprise that Fox is going downhill, eventually people get tired of that mindless drivel-
One day, after the reality boom dries up, the network execs are going to take a look around and say, "you mean we need other programs now?" and be Shit Outta Luck- I think it's already starting to happen, and those numbers are the first step-

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Saturday, March 6, 2004 5:24 PM

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Originally posted by Drakon:
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Originally posted by Ghola:
Okay can someone please show me examples of Fox's so called right wing propaganda as that was apparently how this whole tangent got started



Fox is "right wing" only in comparison to most (all?) of the other news networks. I have seen from time to time Fox putting liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans in side by side debates. What has usually happened is the Democrat has, well, argued in an ineffective, even counterproductive manner. Started name calling, bulldozing the other speaker (talking over them at a loud volume so as to drown them out,) etc. They make themselves look bad in a side by side comparison.

The Republican usually comes across as polite, and logical. And that in comparison to the debating tactics ultilized by the Democrats, is highly effective. And if the Republican looks good, you MUST be their shill. Even if it means better ratings than CNN, Fox News is still wrong somehow for allowing both sides to argue an issue side by side.


Um okay so what you're saying is that Fox News is wrong for having both arguments being put side by side. Can you please tell me what's so bad about them showing both sides. Wouldn't it be the responsibility of the person in the debate to present their argument in a calm and polite manner?

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Saturday, March 6, 2004 5:53 PM

Even the beer chugging, knuckle dragging, belching, farting masses are tuning Fox out?

Imagine that......

Nothing that requires any form of intelligence to understand survives being aired on Fox. Including the broken wind.

"My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

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Saturday, March 6, 2004 7:10 PM

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Okay can someone please show me examples of Fox's so called right wing propaganda as that was apparently how this whole tangent got started
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Fox is "right wing" only in comparison to most (all?) of the other news networks. I have seen from time to time Fox putting liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans in side by side debates. What has usually happened is the Democrat has, well, argued in an ineffective, even counterproductive manner. Started name calling, bulldozing the other speaker (talking over them at a loud volume so as to drown them out,) etc. They make themselves look bad in a side by side comparison.

The Republican usually comes across as polite, and logical. And that in comparison to the debating tactics ultilized by the Democrats, is highly effective. And if the Republican looks good, you MUST be their shill. Even if it means better ratings than CNN, Fox News is still wrong somehow for allowing both sides to argue an issue side by side.

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Um okay so what you're saying is that Fox News is wrong for having both arguments being put side by side. Can you please tell me what's so bad about them showing both sides. Wouldn't it be the responsibility of the person in the debate to present their argument in a calm and polite manner?



He wasn't saying FoxNews was wrong, just that the debates tend to be slanted towards the Right based on the actions of the participants. Actually, he was saying that ppl consider FoxNews "right" because they show both sides, and the Democrats chosen for debate are prone to histrionics while the Republicans remain calm and polite. This leads to a reduction in credibility of the Democrat while depicting the Republican as more intelligent and reasoned.

Not that this is TRUE, necessarily, just that it paints that picture for viewers. Haven't watched any debates on that channel, so can't really comment. But the impression I have from others who have watched them is that FoxNews is on the "Right" side of politics. Personally, I try to get information from a variety of sources before deciding, but that can be difficult, at times. Best bet is to use your head and think for yourself (which is antithetical to how many politicans want you to think, ie. "their way").

Submitted for your perusal. Edited for spelling (cause I'm nitpicky).

Jayne: "How big a room?"

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Saturday, March 6, 2004 8:07 PM

Fox News Channel or as I call it the scandal channel because it only covers Laci Peterson and Mr. Jackson and never anything close to real news unlike other real news channels, oh wait thats all "news channels" never mind.

Fox network the one that had Firely has nothing to do with that. What I think is going on with Fox network is this. You see at one time Fox was where original and unique shows were put on this is what made the network special. But over time they got more and more into trash T.V. Now the people that really have the power think folk will only like trash. But the new controlers of Fox have yet to get rid of the old programers of Fox. In other words this is why to this day programs of quality still get signed.

So I believe there is a civil war at Fox the new rulers believe in trash,yet the old school still signes shows of quality. In the madness that is your average corperation. The new school tries to sabotage the quality shows as fast as they can lack of advertising moving them around so they can't get ratings they have more control then the old school Fox executives. And just as fast as the new school Fox scum destroy the good shows and get them off the air. The old school Fox folks sign more.

Just a theory but it would explain why Fox keeps on to this day signing new shows of quality only to later sabotage them.

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Saturday, March 6, 2004 9:32 PM

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Originally posted by captaincdc:
FOX is set to close the key ratings period with major declines in all the major categories: down 21% in households, down 23% in total viewers, down 26% in adults 25-54 and down 29% in adults 18-49. Those dips also mark the largest by any network in each respective category.
That was from www.thefutoncritic.com

Their strategy of getting rid of almost every quality show that actually required the use of a writer really seems to be paying off. They lost a quarter of their viewers in every category during Feb. sweeps. Could not happen to nicer folks I guess. I do hope Wonderfalls is a big hit for them, but I'm afraid they will wind up cancelling it for The Littlest Groom 2.



So, what, is The Littlest Groom 2 not going to be on now?

It definitely couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of ignorant, moronic clowns

They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....

Oh yeah, you, FOX TV!!

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Saturday, March 6, 2004 9:45 PM

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Originally posted by Tallgrrl:
Been listening to Pill-Popper Rush and his cronies, have ya?
Obviously you know absolutely nothing about the media in this country if you think the networks are "spewing" Left propaganda. And the way you spelled politics, with an "o", prooves my point...
Fox has been shilling for the current administration and it's now starting to bite them in the ass. To which I say Yipppeeee!!!!



To all of you who are throwing the political angle into the argument, let's try to keep our eyes on the shiny ball here. The real point of hating Fox is their low-brow programming aimed at the lowest-common-denominator of viewers, their utter hatred of any quality programming, and the willful stupidity they continue to show at every turn. Whether or not they espouse a certain political philosophy or other is completely beside the point. A good friend of mine, and recent Browncoat convert, is the most liberal of bleeding-heart, dyed-in-the-wool, Clintonite-apologist Democrats out there. He makes the damned Socialists running things over on the other side of the pond seem like Pat Buchanan. Obviously, based on my previous statements, which contain more than a slightly Conservative bias, you might conclude that myself and my friend from work agree on absolutely nothing. As a matter of fact we agree on quite a few things. We both agree that "Firely" totally kicks ass. We both agree that Fox is run by ignorant dung-flinging monkeys. We also both agree that we will never see eye-to-eye on politics, but that's ok, and it's utterly irrelevant.

I could go on even more, but I think I made my point. Let's leave the political blustering and posturing for a different board. We need all the fellow Browncoats we can get...

They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....

Oh yeah, you, FOX TV!!

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Saturday, March 6, 2004 10:00 PM

Oop sorry. Let's get this hate back where it belongs.

FOX!!

Jayne: "How big a room?"

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Saturday, March 6, 2004 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by HATEHATEHATEFOX:
...Whatever, I hope your all your sakes that Mr. Kerry will take over come November and you guys can get back to where you were 4 years ago. No deficit, not so many ppl hating you, more of your ppl working, fewer ppl dying violently, fewer ppl homeless and/or without medical aid. Well done, Shrub.

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Nothing is ever so profoundly regretted as a kind act.
Robertson Davies



Ok, now I have one political thing I have to say. You sir, based on your statements in your previous posts, must be from outside the USA. People from other countries, and liberals from the USA, seem to be under the misguided notion that we have to go along with the "recommendations" and "suggestions" of other countries. I, sir, think not. I admit I voted for Bush in 2000, and I also admit I will most likely vote for him again this year. One of the biggest reasons for me voting for him over some Liberal Democrat is he, largely, doesn't feel the need to get a "by-your-leave" from the UN, EU, NATO, or any other organization. IMHO, we in the USA have the right to go with our national interests over the wishes and desires of other nations. What that means, in essence, is that nobody gives a good gorram what some hoodlum warrior chief in Africa who happens to be on the UN Human Rights Commission thinks about how the USA conducts her affairs.

IMHO, I think we in the USA should become totally isolationist, since all we do is piss off every other country every time we do anything overseas. Of course, that would also involve eliminating foreign aid, pulling the thousands of troops we have stationed overseas back to our own borders, and telling the rest of the world to gen hou zi bi diu shi From now on, we could use all the money we save from not sending it out to ungrateful, corrupt international organizations and collapsing military juntas to feed the hungry and shelter the homeless right here in the USA. That would make foreigners and liberals happy. We wouldn't be "interfering" in the affairs of other nations, and we would be fulfilling that do-gooder wish list that all Liberals have handy in their PDAs, in case anyone asks.

Ok, that's enough of my speechifying for now. Oh, and off Fox TV.


They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....

Oh yeah, you, FOX TV!!

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