FOX Strategy Really Paid Off...........Idiots
POSTED BY: captaincdc
UPDATED: Saturday, March 13, 2004 00:47
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First off:
Yay.
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I hope for the sake of the republican part that Bush isn’t reelected. If it isn’t his stupidity or lack of understanding of the American political system it’s the fact that Cheney is taking bribes and was financially helping Iraq back when it was supposed to be illegal.
The White House is in a thin bubble and if given time to pop it could devastate the Republican Party.
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I'm sorry but how American! As if you "owned" the entire concept of liberality and are simply "loaning" it out to other countries.
Where ever did I say anything for you to think that? There are different forms of Liberalism out there and I am wondering from what area you are coming from because there are obvious differences between them.
First of all, you can't own an idea and since you can't own an idea then you can't loan or sell it to someone else.
It seems now that you are judging my character by a few simple words that you took out of context. Just because someone has a different idea than you or doesn't agree with you then don't insult them as I think you were trying to do. And it seems you think you know so much about America and Americans to say such a comment. You have your right to your opinion and I have my right to mine. Don't squash my opinion by demonizing me.
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The concern is that you are NOT getting multiple points of view through your supposed oligopoly. Only a few ppl/corps own the majority of media outlets (papers,radio channels,tv stns) so where oh where is this multiplicity? The verticalization of information allows a very few to manage and manipulate the opinions of the many.
May I point out the nonsensical Monica Lewinski "scandal"? Non-news becomes news if repeated loudly and often enough eventually non-affiliated media outlets will pick it up.
Oh, and you are getting multiple viewpoints from monopolistic government media?
If you don't like what you are seeing, instead of bitching about it then go build a media corporation of your own that would compete with the others. There are ways to get your viewpoint out there. A great example is exactly what the both of us are doing now.
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I think the poster was trying to point out that NO ONE CARES anywhere but in the US. Also, it was a convenient bait and switch to allow your never-actually-elected president a moment's respite from the Democratic campaigning. Which, btw, is ACTUAL news.
Oh, I'm sure that if something similiar was to happen at an event of their own that they would care about it and that their media would make a big deal out of. Considering that the Superbowl is more of an American tradition, it isn't going to effect other people as to what happens.
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In Al Franken's hilarious book, Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, he quotes an independent news analysis company (Pew Charitable Trust Project for Excellence in Journalism) that analyzed the tone of coverage during the 2000 Presidential Campaign between Gore and Bush.
The so-called liberal media was MUCH more positive towards Bush (rep) than Gore (dem).
Bush = 24% Positive, 27% Neutral, 49% Negative
Gore = 13% Positive, 31% Neutral, 56% Negative
So, I guess left wingers are pretty stupid to be publishing all those negative stories about Gore. Dammit, THEY cost him the election!
It depends on what you are defining as Liberal Media or what they are defining it as. And once again, just because some organization puts out some statstics doesn't mean that they are true. Another organization could put out statstics of the same issue and have a completely different result.
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Whatever, I hope your all your sakes that Mr. Kerry will take over come November and you guys can get back to where you were 4 years ago. No deficit, not so many ppl hating you, more of your ppl working, fewer ppl dying violently, fewer ppl homeless and/or without medical aid. Well done, Shrub.
If Kerry is elected, he won't take over until January.
If people hate me because I am American well then that is too bad for them. Without debt then there is no value to things; the deficit might actually work but you can't get money unless you spend it and the government isn't a bank to accumulate money. Whatever money goes into the government should either be used or go back to the people. Oh and by nationalizing health care the government will only be putting out a whole lot of medical businesses o
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Originally posted by christhecynic:
First off:
Yay.
Second:
I hope for the sake of the republican part that Bush isn’t reelected. If it isn’t his stupidity or lack of understanding of the American political system it’s the fact that Cheney is taking bribes and was financially helping Iraq back when it was supposed to be illegal.
The White House is in a thin bubble and if given time to pop it could devastate the Republican Party.
Not a Republican so I frankly don't care. If the Republican Party falls then hopefully that will be a sign that the two party system will end.
Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.
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Fox Sucks! 
Though it saddens me to think that they are prolly making a pretty penny off DVD sales....
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Okay can someone please show me examples of Fox's so called right wing propaganda as that was apparently how this whole tangent got started
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I'd suggest you would take some time to realize that Fox News ( Fair and Balanced ) is a seperate critter from Fox T.V.
The folk at the news channel are doing a kick tushy job, out drawing cable news viewers and leaving CNN, MSNBC in the dust. I have no probs w/ how FOX NEWS is run.
To the pin heads at Fox T.V. programming...... Here's wishing you run into some damn hungry Reavers. Haa haa haa! 
Holy flirking schnitt!
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First off, Fox News, and Fox Entertainment are two different divisions. While I think it is arguable that Fox News is conservative, I think it is only in comparison to say, CNN, MSNBC, and the network news division.
But the news division really doesn't have anything to do with the entertainment network. If the entertainment side goes down, I don't think that will affect the news division much at all.
I note that those who are saying that the other networks are left wing, only make the statement, and dismiss the charge. Usually in a very insulting manner. It is not an effective argument technique. It just comes across as infantile, and convinces the audience that the speaker is, well, protesting too much.
"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"
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Originally posted by HATEHATEHATEFOX:Quote:
What would you rather have, a left wing propaganda machine?
[political debate]
My dear, you are sadly mistaken if you believe there is such thing as a "left-wing" propaganda machine. TV networks are owned by the rich are the rich are inherently conservative. You should read a book called: What Liberal Media?
[/political debate]
Ummm... There are plenty of rich liberals, and there is a thought that some rich folks become liberal out of guilt for simply being rich. You have heard the term "limosine liberal" after all.
Besides which, lets face it, the political left is essentially the same old feudal structure of peasants and aristocrats with a different line of BS to sell to the masses. Anytime you try to organize a bunch of folks to do a particular thing, someone has to take the job of co-ordinator, leader, captain, spokesman or commisar. Its the same game, just in a different language.
So who is best "suited" to be the new leftist leaders? The celebrities, the folks you (think you) know. Usually wealth comes from that, or is a derivative of the fact you are wealthy. Having folks complain constantly that you should feel guilt because you are rich, just aids the limosine liberal kind of mindset.
So, while they may be capitalists on their claw to the top, there is no reason to expect them to stay loyal to that system. In fact, once they have made it, it is all the more reason to destroy that system to avoid competitors. Which means working for different, even if unworkable, models of economics.
"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"
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Originally posted by rklenseth:
Not a Republican so I frankly don't care. If the Republican Party falls then hopefully that will be a sign that the two party system will end.
This is the scariest, most illiberal thing I have read to date on this thread. I suppose all those who disagree with you will just have to shut up and take it then, huh?
"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"
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Originally posted by Ghola:
Okay can someone please show me examples of Fox's so called right wing propaganda as that was apparently how this whole tangent got started
Fox is "right wing" only in comparison to most (all?) of the other news networks. I have seen from time to time Fox putting liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans in side by side debates. What has usually happened is the Democrat has, well, argued in an ineffective, even counterproductive manner. Started name calling, bulldozing the other speaker (talking over them at a loud volume so as to drown them out,) etc. They make themselves look bad in a side by side comparison.
The Republican usually comes across as polite, and logical. And that in comparison to the debating tactics ultilized by the Democrats, is highly effective. And if the Republican looks good, you MUST be their shill. Even if it means better ratings than CNN, Fox News is still wrong somehow for allowing both sides to argue an issue side by side.
"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"
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