FOX Strategy Really Paid Off...........Idiots
POSTED BY: captaincdc
UPDATED: Saturday, March 13, 2004 00:47
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My dear, you are sadly mistaken if you believe there is such thing as a "left-wing" propaganda machine. TV networks are owned by the rich are the rich are inherently conservative.
[rant]
Most democratic politicians that I know of are pretty well to do... the Kennedys, John Kerry, Al Gore... There are a lot of rich out there with nothing better to do than be politically left so that people don't see how really greedy and power hungry they are. The rich feel like they are doing such a good deed trying to help the down trodden and the lower and middle class, yet that have no concept of life other than where they are at.[/end rant]
Jaymes
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Well the Right needs a propaganda machine when the Left has every other major network spewing their propaganda.
This is such a myth.
Still trying to figure out where all these "left wing" media outlets are. Been hearing about them for years but have yet to see them on TV.
All I see on American TV is corporate media. Even PBS is becoming corporatized. Corporate = conservative... because it's all about earning money and not offending your sponsors with "controversidal" content.
If the U.S. REALLY had a left wing media, Janet Jackson's breast would NOT have been an "issue" several weeks ago. Americans would have been accustomed to nudity on TV already (like the Europeans are).
I am an unapologetic left winger who would love to see his views expressed on American TV. I have to watch Canadian and British news to get any progressive news at all.
It's a big wide world out there and we Americans live in a corporate media bubble, y'all.
mattro
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Dear Mr. Davies:
Could you please explain to me how to put those cute emoticons in my responses?
Thank you.
and oh yeah (flips bird at fox)
SHOULDA COULDA WOULDA
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Originally posted by HATEHATEHATEFOX:Quote:
What would you rather have, a left wing propaganda machine?
[political debate]
My dear, you are sadly mistaken if you believe there is such thing as a "left-wing" propaganda machine. TV networks are owned by the rich are the rich are inherently conservative. You should read a book called: What Liberal Media?
[/political debate]
However, I regret my politicization of what should be a celebration of FOX getting its just deserts for cancelling every good show they've gotten their claws into.
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Nothing is ever so profoundly regretted as a kind act.
Robertson Davies
There are left wing propaganda machines just as much as right wing.
And just because you are rich doesn't mean you are Conservative. Most of the left wing ideals came from well to do people and not some poor bastard on the street. And just because someone wrote in a book that there isn't any left wing propaganda machine doesn't make it true. Someone can write a book saying there is and come up with facts just as strong as those found in "What Liberal Media?" And wouldn't "What Liberal Media?" be considered left wing propaganda within itself?
I don't like FOX TV's decision to cancel Firefly but they did. But also must remember it was FOX TV that canceled Firefly not FOX News or any of the other organizations within 20th Century FOX.
Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.
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Nothing is ever so profoundly regretted as a kind act.
Robertson Davies
wow a firefly and RD fan!!! Very Nice to meet you!
bbh
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Well the Right needs a propaganda machine when the Left has every other major network spewing their propaganda.
This is such a myth.
Still trying to figure out where all these "left wing" media outlets are. Been hearing about them for years but have yet to see them on TV.
All I see on American TV is corporate media. Even PBS is becoming corporatized. Corporate = conservative... because it's all about earning money and not offending your sponsors with "controversidal" content.
If the U.S. REALLY had a left wing media, Janet Jackson's breast would NOT have been an "issue" several weeks ago. Americans would have been accustomed to nudity on TV already (like the Europeans are).
I am an unapologetic left winger who would love to see his views expressed on American TV. I have to watch Canadian and British news to get any progressive news at all.
It's a big wide world out there and we Americans live in a corporate media bubble, y'all.
mattro
First of all what Liberalism are you talking about? Socialistic Liberalism or Jeffersonian Liberalism?
How sure are you that you are really getting progressive news from British or Canadian news agency? The BBC is owned and run by the British government. That would make it sort of like a monopoly. At least in America the media oligopoly so you aren't getting the everything just from one entity. Not much better though.
Now you use an example of Janet Jackson's breast being seen at the Superbowl as some sort of right wing agenda. The facts are that the Superbowl is the most watched program on American TV and many, many people thought that what was done was in bad taste. That is their opinion and that opinion was expressed. I don't think this issue has anything to do with left wing or right wing philosophies. I'm sure there are just as many left wing type people who thought it was bad taste as well considering they are tuning in to watch a football game and not to see Janet Jackson's breast. In the end to me it wasn't a big deal and I personally think it was blown out of proportion but there were many people who thought it was a big deal and I reserved the right not to pay attention to the media coverage.
Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.
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Fox News has nothing to do with the other Fox networks. Fox News has its fans with both the poor and the rich.. as does Firefly.
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Yeah, that's so gorram satisfying. I hope they are still conscious when the last drop of blood drains out of their bodies.
Ahem, sorry.
Just watch... Fox will respond to this by adding more crap. You expect rationality from these juvenile creeps? Might as well expect mercy from a Reaver. It just ain't in their nature.
Brace yourself for Forever Eden 4 (they're skipping 2 and 3 to save money), The Littlest Groom All Stars vs. Crazy Animal Races, and The Surreal Life with the maid from The Jeffersons, Girl in Crowd from Episode 26 of "Saved by the Bell", the kid from "Johnny Socko and His Flying Robot, and Two Girls Walking By The Studio That Day.
Yech. I feel dirty.
"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
Mal to Jayne, "Jaynestown"
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Originally posted by Hjermsted:Quote:
Well the Right needs a propaganda machine when the Left has every other major network spewing their propaganda.
This is such a myth.
Still trying to figure out where all these "left wing" media outlets are. Been hearing about them for years but have yet to see them on TV.
All I see on American TV is corporate media. Even PBS is becoming corporatized. Corporate = conservative... because it's all about earning money and not offending your sponsors with "controversidal" content.
If the U.S. REALLY had a left wing media, Janet Jackson's breast would NOT have been an "issue" several weeks ago. Americans would have been accustomed to nudity on TV already (like the Europeans are).
I am an unapologetic left winger who would love to see his views expressed on American TV. I have to watch Canadian and British news to get any progressive news at all.
It's a big wide world out there and we Americans live in a corporate media bubble, y'all.
mattro
First of all what Liberalism are you talking about? Socialistic Liberalism or Jeffersonian Liberalism?
I'm sorry but how American! As if you "owned" the entire concept of liberality and are simply "loaning" it out to other countries.
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How sure are you that you are really getting progressive news from British or Canadian news agency? The BBC is owned and run by the British government. That would make it sort of like a monopoly. At least in America the media oligopoly so you aren't getting the everything just from one entity. Not much better though.
The concern is that you are NOT getting multiple points of view through your supposed oligopoly. Only a few ppl/corps own the majority of media outlets (papers,radio channels,tv stns) so where oh where is this multiplicity? The verticalization of information allows a very few to manage and manipulate the opinions of the many.
May I point out the nonsensical Monica Lewinski "scandal"? Non-news becomes news if repeated loudly and often enough eventually non-affiliated media outlets will pick it up.
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Now you use an example of Janet Jackson's breast being seen at the Superbowl as some sort of right wing agenda. The facts are that the Superbowl is the most watched program on American TV and many, many people thought that what was done was in bad taste. That is their opinion and that opinion was expressed. I don't think this issue has anything to do with left wing or right wing philosophies. I'm sure there are just as many left wing type people who thought it was bad taste as well considering they are tuning in to watch a football game and not to see Janet Jackson's breast. In the end to me it wasn't a big deal and I personally think it was blown out of proportion but there were many people who thought it was a big deal and I reserved the right not to pay attention to the media coverage.
I think the poster was trying to point out that NO ONE CARES anywhere but in the US. Also, it was a convenient bait and switch to allow your never-actually-elected president a moment's respite from the Democratic campaigning. Which, btw, is ACTUAL news.
In Al Franken's hilarious book, Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, he quotes an independent news analysis company (Pew Charitable Trust Project for Excellence in Journalism) that analyzed the tone of coverage during the 2000 Presidential Campaign between Gore and Bush.
The so-called liberal media was MUCH more positive towards Bush (rep) than Gore (dem).
Bush = 24% Positive, 27% Neutral, 49% Negative
Gore = 13% Positive, 31% Neutral, 56% Negative
So, I guess left wingers are pretty stupid to be publishing all those negative stories about Gore. Dammit, THEY cost him the election!
Whatever, I hope your all your sakes that Mr. Kerry will take over come November and you guys can get back to where you were 4 years ago. No deficit, not so many ppl hating you, more of your ppl wor
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I have seen fox network news here in Sydney. It is hi-larious for about 5 minutes and then you just have to flick. And no it is not just me I have yet to meet anyone who can actually watch it. If USA wants to improve its image they should stop broadcasting that rubbish.
When I first saw it I thought it was a comedy channel.
However the quality of the rest of the newsa avaliable is very poor as well, yes I do mean the ABC, BBC, CCN hardily left wing except when compared to fox new.
By the way forget comparing the alliance to the nazi's, here they are compared to the USA.
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