Another SMG movie
POSTED BY: Zicsoft
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 3, 2002 06:48
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I just wanted to dig up a few things to address a topic that has been forgotten about. Please excuse the lateness.
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A 16-year-old girl who has to go out and slay vampires when she'd rather be partying can be flip and over-the-top all the time. A 21-year-old who's just transited from a very literal heaven to harsh, abrasive, painful reality is just a little bit more restrained. Especially when she has to pretend that Everything is Fine. In my opinion, she totally nailed the secretive sense of pain such a person would feel. It's as if she were playing the part as an autist -- a syndrome with a rather similar set of symptoms.
See this is part of the problem. For that portrayal to work you have to make the audience feel your pain, your depression (to really see what I'm talking about I'd recommend the excellent foreign film Blue by the late Krzysztof Kieslowski). Here we saw it portrayed effectively but that's was all as it didn't draw us in and make Buffy's feelings our feelings.
Whether it was the writing (which could well have been the case since I'm not a fan of Noxon's work and the other writers haven't exactly had experience in writing on those topics) or the the performance, I don't know. With Sarah Michelle Gellar doing the work though, I quite frankly expected more. Sarah Michelle Gellar is to TV sad/depress characters what Gene Hackman is to barking authority figures in film, namely one of the best (if not *the* best) in the medium so I expected more.
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Originally posted by FREELANCER:
BUFFY SUCKS
I hated buffy after the fist two episode in the first year!
I was glad when wb said no more and killed her at the end of season 5 ( GOOD RIDENCE) because those no account actor &actresses wanted more money!
Then it got a repreve from upn and was signed for two more season (),so don't wine about SMG makeing bad movies ,thats the sort of actress she is just sucks!!!
I do watch angle ,and its a hundred time's better!
FREELANCE
You know, it's just plain refreshing to be able to discuss film and television with someone who can articulate his thoughts so eloquently and concisely. It's always a pleasure to listen to the opinions, even those that vary from your own, of a person who is so clearly willing to examine the issue from all sides, and take into consideration the views of others while still thinking independently.
Also, the meticulousness of a post is vastly appreciated. When not only the information and content, but details that might seem insignificant to a less sophisticated poster like the spelling and grammar are so carefully monitored to ensure that the post is as coherent and accurate as possible, it just makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
Freelancer, I salute you for your invaluable contribution to this discussion.
Pandora
"Mrs. Krabappel and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies
and the baby looked at me." -Ralph Wiggum
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Originally posted by millernate:
See this is part of the problem. For that portrayal to work you have to make the audience feel your pain, your depression (to really see what I'm talking about I'd recommend the excellent foreign film Blue by the late Krzysztof Kieslowski). Here we saw it portrayed effectively but that's was all as it didn't draw us in and make Buffy's feelings our feelings.
I saw all three movies in the Three Colors series. Blue was definitely the best. But then again, Juliette Binoche is absolutely amazing. If anyone can play restrained devistation, it is she.
But I disagree that SMG didn't have it this season's portrayal of Buffy. This season hit home for me more than any other simply by virtue of her introspection and hidden pain. I have really enjoyed every season of Buffy, but until S6, I never identified with her.
I've been going through the motions,
Walking through the part
Nothing seems to penetrate my heart.
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P.S.
Pandora, You rock.
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Quote:Well, I guess you didn't. But I sure as hell felt it. Her lack of affect, her failure to respond to people.
See this is part of the problem. For that portrayal to work you have to make the audience feel your pain, your depression
And the dialog didn't exactly hide the issue. "Everything here is violent and harsh. Everything I feel. Everything I touch. This is hell." I'm quoting from memory, but I believe that's substantially correct. And boy, does it has have resonance with me! Not to mention that line from the song. "Nothing here is real. Nothing here is right." What do you want, a billboard?
Maybe that's why everybody complained that S6 was "too dark". They set out to portray depression, alienation, dissociation -- and succeeded much too well.
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Quote:Well, I don't think I can ever identify with somebody like that. But Gellar's portrayal of Buffy Ressurrected hit painfully close to home.
Originally posted by bobknaptor:
But I disagree that SMG didn't have it this season's portrayal of Buffy. This season hit home for me more than any other simply by virtue of her introspection and hidden pain. I have really enjoyed every season of Buffy, but until S6, I never identified with her.
And no, I've never crawled out of a grave. Close enough though. You'll forgive me my lack of specifics -- it's pretty personal.
Let me put it another way. SMG ROCKS! NO DISSENT ON THIS ISSUE WILL BE TOLERATED!
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Originally posted by FREELANCER:
I do watch angle ,and its a hundred time's better!
FREELANCE
I would like to know more about this "Angle" of which you speak. I love trying out new shows!
And... how could I have forgotten...
Oh, how one does love the ability to self-censor.
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
This one's for Furyfire...
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Originally posted by FREELANCER:
I do watch angle ,and its a hundred time's better!
FREELANCE
hey freelance, great choice. i luv angle 2. too bad he lost his hair a while back. :( what do u thnk bout the deadman? angle had better watch his back thursday or he could lose.
Once you've been in Serenity, you never leave. You just learn to live there. --Firefly script
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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Well, I don't think I can ever identify with somebody like that. But Gellar's portrayal of Buffy Ressurrected hit painfully close to home.
And no, I've never crawled out of a grave. Close enough though. You'll forgive me my lack of specifics -- it's pretty personal.
Let me put it another way. SMG ROCKS! NO DISSENT ON THIS ISSUE WILL BE TOLERATED!
I had a similar experience with Gellar's season 6 Buffy.
Buffy's forced ressurection mirrored a time in my life where I was (and still am) struggling to hide a part of of life with which I know my friends/family will not be able to deal. I don't want to go into depth... but the feelings she portrayed mirrored so many of my own emotions, and her performance hit me like a sack of bricks.
So, I'll end by saying: Those who don't appreciate Sarah Michelle Gellar as an actress shall incur the wrath of an angry Dylan.
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
This one's for Furyfire...
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