Screw 'em if they hate us
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 09:13
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Originally posted by citizen:
Examples of me saying everything in the world is America's fault would be nice, betcha can't find any.
Well OK, the majority of things.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:Well Ok, you hate the majority of non-Americans.
Originally posted by Geezer:
Well OK, the majority of things.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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"... or at least has never mentioned a positive ... never have a positive thing to say about the country ... add nothing positive to a search for solutions to the problems ..."
Why Geezer :bats eyelashes: you would be describing ... ... ... YOU !
I asked for one, just one cherry-picked stat that shows how great the US is to live in. And it seems you just can't find anything nice to say.
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Quote:*Geezer makes sure the jack in the base of his skull is firmly installed.*
I sure don't hang out with the top 0.01%, and the folks I know - family, friends, etc. - are doing fine. No doubt some people are hurting, but I doubt "most" are.
It's easy to think everyhting is fine if you plug your ears, shut your eyes tight and hum the Star Spangled Banner loudly, but all you're doing right now is demonstrating to everyone on the board how disconnected you are from reality.
Now I know YOU'RE not going to read this, but others will so here are the facts:
Consumer Confidence in America is now -34 Down 7 points from -27 in late January
Only 17% of Americans rate the American economy as excellent or good, which is down 10% from late January. In contrast, over four-fifths of Americans, 83% (up 10%), rate the American economy as not good or poor.
www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2008/737/
US Tax Rebates Not Improving Consumer Confidence 43% view the economy as "poor" whether they've gotten a rebate or not.
www.gallup.com/poll/107449/US-Tax-Rebates-Improving-Consumer-Confidenc
e.aspx
Families have doubled their spending on gasoline from 2001 to 2007 (measured in 2001 dollars)... Median family income in real dollars is, meanwhile, slightly lower now than it was in 2001.
www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/05/up_away.html
Now, here's the kicker... we haven't even begun to pay off our war debt!
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Let's party like it's 1929.
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Lunch time!
What I have to say is actually similar to 6ix. But I have no intention of repairing damage just so the power structure can go comfortably ignoring us peons who somehow continue to “make it work” despite the ever-tightening squeeze. F*ck no.
The FIRST thing I think we need to do is recognize that we have more in common with the Honduran shirt-maker than we do with Sam Walton or Bill Gates. Once we recognize that, we’ll stop trying so hard to export our brand of rapacious monopolism. So, specifically…
We need to get our individual and governmental finances in order. Because our government priorities are so out-of-whack it’s almost impossible to tackle individual finances until the government finances are taken care of.
First:
1) Get out of Iraq NOW I know that Iraq needs rebuilding and needs to be decentralized, and I know that we busted it so we should fix it but the reality is we can’t. We’re tapped out. Since both the EU and China have an interest in seeing Iraq start to pump oil, they should be able to pitch in and help. They probably would, if they knew we were serious about leaving.
2) W/draw our troops from the several hundred or so meaningless installations where they currently reside, like Okinawa and Germany. Do we really HAVE to be everywhere in the world like Big Brother?
3)Stop meddling in foreign governments because we think they’re some sort of “-ist” or another. I know its tough to let go of that security blanket, but our REAL interests should be prosperity, transparency, empowerment, education, and stability. It’s the opposite- poverty, secrecy, tyranny, ignorance and riot- that are our REAL enemies.
4)Raise income tax rates on the top 1% to 40%. (It’s nominally 38% now, but the ultra-wealthy are only taxed at 33% due to various loopholes, while the moderately wealthy actually pay the full 38%).
5)Close corporate tax loopholes.
6)Eliminate corporate personhood, and eliminate their “right” to privacy and “free speech”. Free speech should be exactly that: FREE. The minute you pay someone, it becomes advertising and should have the same truth-in-advert requirements as any other advert.
7)Eliminate pork-barrel legislation. We have plenty of REAL work to do without making shit up.
8)Provide government-funded, single-payer universal health care. Health care is a big drain on our economy; our manufacturing is less competitive because we’re allowing a single segment of the economy (insurances) to bleed everyone else dry.
9)Raise the Federal minimum wage to something that could actually support a person. The reason WHY some people are so strapped is because they simply don’t have enough money.
10)At the same time, conduct an anti-consumption campaign. People should be able to make enough money working to provide for the basics: Food, housing, transportation. People DON”T need big-screen TVs, the latest iPhone, or expensive cars if they can’t afford ‘em. Somewhere, that idea has gotten lost. A wealthy lifestyle is not a birthright.
11)Allow US labor unions to support labor unions abroad, and duck out NAFTA, CAFTA, and GATT.
12) Start healing our inner cities with jobs and good schools. Many people in the inner cities are growing up with PTSD because of household and neighborhood violence.
13) Decriminalize many drugs, end the so-called "War on drugs" and make enough money avilable to provide rehab for everyone who wants it, and decent mental health services for the vets (and other lunatics) who roam our streets.
14) Get serious about securing our borders. There's no reason why WE have to serve as the overflow and relief valve for nations that are corrupt and impoverished.
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Let's party like it's 1929.
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Still waiting for Geezer to have one positive thing to say about the US (that's fairly modern, saying it doesn't have slavery is cheating). Failing that, to come up with a positive solution to a problem.
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Well, in Geezer's defense, we ARE Number One in at least one thing: Military Spending!
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US military spending accounts for 48 percent, or almost half, of the world’s total military spending
US military spending is more than the next 46 highest spending countries in the world combined
US military spending is 5.8 times more than China, 10.2 times more than Russia, and 98.6 times more than Iran.
US military spending is almost 55 times the spending on the six “rogue” states (Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria)
Source:
http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/Spending.asp
Of course, we're also Number One in both numbers of people in prison and percentage of our population in prison.
And we're Number One is number of prisoners to be executed.
Hey, we're really looking good! Why y'all gotta be all negative about stuff? ;)
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Well, drat-doodly-dah my negativity, then.
GO USA !!!!
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Originally posted by WhoDied:Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
They've cut loose and cut the US out of the world's doings. We're less valuable or meaningful to them than last week's news.
I hope your right, and that we take this opportunity to put our house in order.
I, like most, love my country, but like many, am learning to loathe my government. I'm not just talking Bush, but the whole corrupt lot.
What worries me is, while it was the Goths who sacked Rome, it was the slaves who opened the gates.
--WhoDied
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I'm supposed to deliver you to the master now.
There's this whole deal where I get to be immortal. You cool with that?
That's my stance on things and it has been since the beginning I've been here Signy. The only difference is that I don't believe it when you say it. Every word out of your mouth sounds like you feel guilty for living here and you're ashamed of being American.
All I'm trying to say is that it is possible to REALLY love your country and the privelages you were born into and also have major problems with the Status Quo. And to take that the logical step further get off our collective fat asses and do something about it. Anything that has happened in our lives is not anything that our founding fathers hadn't thought of before and did their damndest to structure a government which couldn't do them.
If we let it happen, we deserve what we get. But America bashing everyday is not the answer. I love my country. I know it's flawed, and if it weren't, it would be heaven and I probably wouldn't belong here anyways. But if we don't stand up and be counted and start making changes then what is our worth, really?
And I don't mean by getting our fat asses up long enough on our free time to vote either. Voting is has become the last desperate attempt to have some control in the lives of impotent men.
Fuck the ballot box. Stand and deliver.
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Quote:I bet you'd feel differently about voting would your guy be on the ballot.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
And I don't mean by getting our fat asses up long enough on our free time to vote either. Voting is has become the last desperate attempt to have some control in the lives of impotent men.
Fuck the ballot box. Stand and deliver.
You know I'm right ...
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