Why are the SW Prequels horrible?
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Not my kind of stupid.
In fact you just cost me two minutes of my life and I want them back!
Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.
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Yeah it was stupid. I ain't gonna lie.
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All right, so because apparently the link is to something stupid, I'm going to avoid it and instead answer the question at hand.
Episode 1: Jake Lloyd. Period.
Episode 2: Pretty worthless until the last half hour or so. You know, when the Empire starts to take shape.
Episode 3: Wasn't "bad," but because in order to understand it you have to see the awful first 2, I'll say it's worth avoiding. And when Vader yells "PAAAADMEEEE!" at the end I shook my head in sadness. I used to love you, George Lucas. You slut.
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Yes, that sums it up pretty well. Also, wooden dialogue and direction. Lucas has the amazing ability to take superb actors and turn them into rejects from an Acting 101 class.
Only Ian McDiarmid in "Sith" managed to escape this curse, at least until Palpatine became deformed, and turned into a cackling cartoon.
Alec Guiness distanced himself from the originals because he said he couldn't stand the "bloody awful dialog." While the originals are much better, there are still some howlers there, as well.
The prequels also suffer hugely from having no edge to them, none at all; no Han Solo character to wise crack and add some much-needed humor and cockiness. We had to settle for Jar Jar.
Seriously, everyone is so polite it's like attending an etiquitte class.
One final flaw, is that we already knew how the story would turn out, so there was absolutely zero real suspense. It became an excercise in seeing how things unfolded for the sake of watching them unfold, not in wondering what would happen.
The prequels were thus ill-conceived from the start.
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Start with the part where Jayne gets knocked out by a 90 pound girl. 'Cause I don't think that's ever getting old.
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Originally posted by sazman:
Yes, that sums it up pretty well. Also, wooden dialogue and direction. Lucas has the amazing ability to take superb actors and turn them into rejects from an Acting 101 class.
Only Ian McDiarmid in "Sith" managed to escape this curse, at least until Palpatine became deformed, and turned into a cackling cartoon.
Alec Guiness distanced himself from the originals because he said he couldn't stand the "bloody awful dialog." While the originals are much better, there are still some howlers there, as well.
The prequels also suffer hugely from having no edge to them, none at all; no Han Solo character to wise crack and add some much-needed humor and cockiness. We had to settle for Jar Jar.
Seriously, everyone is so polite it's like attending an etiquitte class.
One final flaw, is that we already knew how the story would turn out, so there was absolutely zero real suspense. It became an excercise in seeing how things unfolded for the sake of watching them unfold, not in wondering what would happen.
The prequels were thus ill-conceived from the start.
Here here and a round of drinks for that Browncoat over there.
NO edge, no mystery, no substance. All overblown effects and I got ever so tired of hearing the grinding wheels while the story tried to move along dragging such huge effects for no real purpose.
Lucas could have had his dream but either had someone else realise it for him or even better not do it at all.
It is sinful how much money was spent on something so trite.
Sorry ranting, but it so gets my knickers in knot when go se like this rakes in the cash, when the somnambulent public turns out in hoards to see something that didn't come within cooee of the original that were good mainly cause they had an edge to them thirty years ago.
I'm going back into my corner now.
Noble as a grape
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Originally posted by sazman:
Yes, that sums it up pretty well. Also, wooden dialogue and direction. Lucas has the amazing ability to take superb actors and turn them into rejects from an Acting 101 class.
Agreed ;p Where's the chemistry from the originals? Always seemed like everyone was just showing up to pick up a check. I know most of the actors in the prequels are better than that, but you can only do so much with what you have to work with. That's like 75% of a Director's job is to get the most out of your actors, and Lucas either didn't seem to get that or simply failed. (And of course here's where Firefly/ Serenity came through in spades. Look what happens when the cast and crew are actually enthusiastic about the project :)
Also... listening to the various actors in interviews and such... Did anyone notice alot of them almost trying to distance themselves from the movie? I heard alot of them talking about how hard it is to act in front of a bluescreen, etc... almost like they were trying to excuse themselves for lackluster performances? Sure, everyone was excited to be able to hold a lightsaber, etc... But I never got the feeling anyone was terribly excited about the actual movie.
Also, Lucas had help when writing the dialogue and directing the originals. Some people are simply better as the idea man. Lucas was better when collaborating with others... wish he'd been mature enough to recieve some help with the prequels. He's always been notoriously bad at dialogue, I remember hearing Carrie Fischer talking once about how hard some of his lines were to say. I know, he had his own vision, etc... But Star Wars isn't his. It's not his movie. It belongs to the fans ;p
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Well, someone's gotta say it, so I will. I liked 'em. Seriously.
I'm a huge fan of STAR WARS (including the expanded universe, novels, comics etc) and whilst I felt the dialogue has taken several turns for the worse in the prequels, I really, REALLY enjoyed them. I know that puts me in the minority, so I won't try and convert anyone to 'em or argue with anyone that hates them - we're all entitled to an opinion on them. But I really liked them.
Episode 1 suffered (IMHO) because it was an introduction, and yeah maybe Jar Jar was a mistake (but he never got on my nerves as much as he did to some people) and Jake Lloyd was wooden as hell, but I love Qui-Gon Jinn and Darth Maul. Episode 2 was brilliant, I felt George redeemed himself with that one (boy am I gotta get it for saying that - but that's just what I felt about it) - though I do fast-forward through the mushy Anakin/Padme scenes. And Episode 3 I really loved. Though I would have loved to have re-written some of the dialogue before hand.
I agree, the edge was lost as we didn't have any Han like rogues. Also, I feel the main difference which might account for some disliking it, is that we have no core group of heroes like we do on Firefly or the classic Trilogy. All the people in the prequels are either going to die, go bad or turn on each other - so we don't have a 'family' to root for. Knowing what was to come didn't ruin it for me, because I like the way he drew them together, and I loved seeing the way Palpatine manipulated all the sides to his own advantage.
But before you all lynch me for my entitled opinion, let me say that no matter how big a fan of Star Wars I might be - first and foremost I am a BROWNCOAT!
FIREFLY RULES
- Shiny. Let's be bad guys.
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Jake Lloyd was only like 8 years old. You can't expect an Oscar winning performance from someone that young. Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson were awesome. And Darth Maul is kick-ass cool. Oh, and Natalie Portman 
Episode II is just misunderstood. Hayden Christensen's performance is probably one of the worst I've ever seen, but he has the right look to be Anakin. And Natalie Portman in white spandex
Now Episode III was the shiznite. Ewan's performance was awesome, we finally got to see the Emperor's wrath, and Hayden's performance was much better. And Natalie Portman
Most people who complain about the prequels grew up with the Originals. I didn't. I became a fan with Episode I. While I love the Originals, I'm a sucker for special effects and bad-ass villains and Natalie Portman. That's why I love the Prequels.
I'm a Jedi.
I'm a Ringer.
I'm a BROWNCOAT.
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