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Official Word from Joss Whedon on the OB

POSTED BY: rklenseth
UPDATED: Thursday, June 10, 2004 05:28
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Friday, June 4, 2004 3:23 PM

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Browncoats -
Joss emailed me this to me and I wanted to post it IMMEDIATELY because BIG NEWS is contained within. What a day we had today! But enough from me now, here's a quote from our fearless leader:

"Hi guys. Just wanted to give you some news but guess what? I can't get on the site. I have trouble with passwords. So hopefully Chris B will forward this to you with his wily technical knowledgablosity.

Today was (as I think you know) the first day of filming of Serenity. Which is pretty big for me (it felt weird to START with Mal's death, but scheduling isn't my area). It was a blast. Sean said it was like school was back in session after summer vacation, which I have decided to take as a compliment. Gina did a happy dance (and there are few happier sights than Gina doing a happy dance). We're still flying. And the best part is, that's not even why I'm posting.

The real news, and you heard it here first, is that Universal has thrown down an official release date! So mark your calendars, Browncoats, 'cause if you're planning to get married on April 22nd 2005, you better change the date. Seriously. Who gets married in April? Just change it.

April 22nd. Exactly when I wanted to open, 'cause it's SOON. I can't wait for you all to see what we're putting together. It's a crazy-quilt of infotainment that like to call a 'film', and it just may be the best one ever made. Or one of the ones in the middle. Probably not the worst... I'm thinking middle. High middle. So buckle up and get ready for that patented Joss Whedon "high-middle" excitment. It's on its way.

I'm tired, and apparently I have to direct, like, EVERY scene, so I'm
crashing. Thanks again, all of you, for helping me home. It's good to be back.

-joss."

It was a shiny, shiny day!

Best,
Buchanan





Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 4:04 PM

woah, woah, woah, back up there, Mal's DEATH?!?!?!? Did I miss something?! People are gonna DIE in the film?! (Jayne's ok right?!) But, yay, less than a year to go!! Any word from the Almighty JW on the UK release- London Premiere sounds like fun!!

Jayne: "Pain is scary" (serenity)

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Friday, June 4, 2004 4:07 PM

Whee!

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Friday, June 4, 2004 4:16 PM

Yeeeeeehaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shiny news! Consider April, 22nd 2005 marked on my calendar & cleared of anything but watching the BDM!

Wait a gorram sec.........Mal's death?!? What in the ruttin' verse are you talking about Joss. I hope that is some sick joke.


"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Friday, June 4, 2004 4:21 PM

I'm thinking a FUTURE scene of Mal's deathbed? But I have to say that making the whole movie a pseudo-flashback would be mildly annoying.

Or he's just pulling our leg.

Either way, WOW. I'm floored. April, 2005. Gotta pick myself up off the floor (and go run Neverwinter Nights Firefly with my friends tonight :)

- Forrestwolf

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Friday, June 4, 2004 4:23 PM

I have a feeling that the crack about starting with Mal's death is just his way of freaking out the fans. Sort of like poking a stick into a beehive. At least, I hope that's what it is....I would much rather be poked at with a stick than have Mal die in this movie.

So less than a year to go. Woo-hoo!

I am sending out happy, thankful thoughts to Joss for keeping us updated.



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"I'll be in my bunk."

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Friday, June 4, 2004 4:24 PM

I'm pretty sure that Joss is just "Joss"ing us on the whole Mal's death thing. But YAY! April 22, 2005, a new national holiday - Browncoat Day!

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 4:50 PM

If Joss was really filming Mal's death scene...you think he'd tell us?

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Friday, June 4, 2004 4:51 PM

Shiny.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 4:59 PM

Joss is such a evil bastard. I love it. He knew exactly what kind of reaction he would get from saying something like that, and it worked. Now April 22 needs to hurry up and get here, gorramit.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 5:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by manwithpez:
If Joss was really filming Mal's death scene...you think he'd tell us?



I agree. Joss is not the sort who would give away a spoiler of those proportions. Of course, that probably won't stop us from biting our nails during the movie whenever Mal's life seems to be in peril (Darn you, Joss!).

Wonderful news! I'm marking my calendar as we speak.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 5:27 PM

Tickets and a coke on Thursday, one minute after midnight: $25
Tickets and a coke on Friday evening: $25
Tickets and a coke on Saturday evening: $25
Tickets and a coke on Sunday evening: $25

Making FOX look like a gorram idiot - priceless.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 5:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kiara:
Tickets and a coke on Thursday, one minute after midnight: $25
Tickets and a coke on Friday evening: $25
Tickets and a coke on Saturday evening: $25
Tickets and a coke on Sunday evening: $25

Making FOX look like a gorram idiot - priceless.



ROFLMAO!

That is great Kiara, and worth every penny to make Fox look foolish.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Friday, June 4, 2004 6:02 PM


Joss wrote (as posted by rklenseth):

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Today was (as I think you know) the first day of filming of Serenity. Which is pretty big for me (it felt weird to START with Mal's death, but scheduling isn't my area).

What? He's killing Mal again!? That's the third time by my count, but I may have missed one or two. Let's see: Niska killed him and then brought him back (applied the pulmonary stimulators and cardiac infusers), because he wanted his fun to last for at least two days; and then I think he actually croaked in OoG, but Simon resuscitated him ("Did I go somewhere?").

And now Joss is killing him again, and right off the bat at that. Mal's turning into a regular Duncan Idaho...


Respectfully,

zoid
_________________________________________________

"I knew a man once. History will never recall him, or what he gave to make us free. That's the way he wanted it. But as long as I live I'll remember, and he'll never truly die."

- River, from A Child Shall Lead Them: A History of the Second War of Independence Wilkins, Richard

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Friday, June 4, 2004 6:05 PM

Here's my only plausible guess: It'll be in the form of a Mal "deathbed confession" scene. There's been some hints of him having to do things he doesn't like in this movie (doesn't he always?) - maybe Joss will start with Mal, old and still ornery, admitting what he had to do way back when, a few years after the War.

I think it's not impossible, though rather clicheed. Otherwise, yes, Joss is just gettin' us all riled up.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 6:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rklenseth:
Today was (as I think you know) the first day of filming of Serenity. Which is pretty big for me (it felt weird to START with Mal's death, but scheduling isn't my area).

He's a tease. Anybody notice how much of a tease Joss is?

He better bloody well be teasing.

April 22 2005 is in my Palm Pilot even as we speak.

We have art so as not to die of truth ~ Neitzsche
http://www.mnartists.org/artistHome.do?rid=7922

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Friday, June 4, 2004 6:50 PM

oh boy! and i'll be in boston then, so there oughta be a midnight showing somewhere! and yes, i'm sure joss is just pulling our legs (jossing, as someone said--i love it lol). unless he's pulling our leg that he's pulling our leg... ok, now that i've said it 3 times, that's a really obnoxious expression. sorry guys. but yay!

~lissa, spwhore

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Friday, June 4, 2004 7:12 PM

Hm. Late April... so Universal isn't treating this as one of their big summer hits. In fact, it's kind of popping up in a part of the calendar where it won't have much to compete with one way or another. Wonder what to make of that.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 7:58 PM

LOL about the "high-middle" excitment bit..good stuff.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 8:18 PM

April 22nd....looks like I'll be in Indianapolis for Star Wars Celebration III - BUT BEFORE YOU MOCK ME - hear me out.

Celebration II, there was nothing to do after the thing ended except go to the movies, and EVERYONE saw Spiderman (including actors in Star Wars). Spiderman became the top grossing film of the summer.

My forecast - Serenity is going to embarass the hell outta Lucas that weekend, grossing more money and earning better reviews. And it comes out before Ep III which means EVERY review is going to compare it (I can see it now "if lucas had the strong characters of whedon's Serenity...it lucas had a coherent plot like whedon's serenity...if lucas knew how to write intelligent and witty dialogue like whedon's serenity...." come on, join in!)
I say, top grossing film of summer 2005...maybe even in the top ten list.

I know I'm going to go to the movie that day, no matter what state I'm in, and maybe I can convince a few of the bajillion attendees to come with...bwhahaha!

Joss is so the man, but in a feminist agenda kinda way. I must forward this post to all my friends now.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 8:18 PM

With no big name movie stars in the cast, "Serenity" was never planned to be a blockbuster, just a reliable start to a possible franchise that can turn a profit on a modest budget. I think April is an excellent time for the release. IT means it won't get buried and people looking for something to see on the weekend might give it a try.

Cardie

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Friday, June 4, 2004 8:34 PM

The "Mal's death" comment startled me too, but then I remembered that we've already seen him die once and nearly die a number of times. I defer my judgement until next spring.

Besides which, what kind of a death wish would The Almight JW have to be killing such a character as Mal? Did anyone ever hear the messages on Matt Stone and Trey Parker's voicemail after they pulled the Cartman's dad April Fool's joke? They thought the fans would find it amusing, but they got such a vile and hateful backlash, even actual death threats.

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 8:38 PM

WTF!!!! Joss, whaddaya mean "Mal's death"? Say it ain't so!! I demand a rewrite. Please tell me there is footage of the "Happy Dance"! This I gotta see. As long as Serenity is as true to the series as possible, that's all I care about.

P.S.:I want to see some kind of inside joke about Flux Nutworks in the movie. Blast 'em with both barrels!!!

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Friday, June 4, 2004 8:48 PM

The only character in the TV series to survive the movie will be Serenity herself; the sequel movies will each have a different crew, with different views of the 'verse.

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Friday, June 4, 2004 9:08 PM

Spoiler warnings would've been nice...

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Friday, June 4, 2004 9:19 PM

this is sooooo shiny!! i've always loved april and now i got another reason. i love the bit about changing your wedding plans. the "best one ever made". i can hardly wait!!

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Friday, June 4, 2004 9:38 PM

uhh... guys? breathe? Y'all know he's kidding, right? Cause he is. No spoiler warning needed, cause no spoiler. Besides, didn't Adam Baldwin say the first thing to be filmed was a shot of Summer? However, I join y'all in your Yay!ing (and there was much rejoicing).

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Friday, June 4, 2004 10:35 PM

Yeah, I think Joss is definitely kidding. Unless of course its some kind of reverse psychology so we all think he's kidding, but he's really not. I guess the only way to know for sure is to go see Serenity the day it comes out, whether we want to or not

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Friday, June 4, 2004 10:43 PM

OUTSTANDING!!!!

I'm going to ignore that crack about Mal's death scene. He ALREADY had a death scene in "War Stories", they gonna kill him again?

Either way, I can't WAIT!!!

Hey, maybe Fox will bring it back as a series of TV movies. It could happen! They did it for Alien Nation.....

I'm also happy, imdb.com has updated the cast list for "Serenity" and it now includes Ron Glass. WOOHOO!!

I love a producer and cast who respects the fans. Nothing fosters loyalty than the acknowledgment of the viewers. Looks like these folks know that, and that pleases me to know end.

Gawd, I love this show.




"Sir, I think you have a problem with your brain being missing."

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Friday, June 4, 2004 10:50 PM

All I know, folks, is that somebody better confirm SOON that Mal does not die, else I'm tossing my Firefly DVD collection into the loo, and will never watch or read another tidbit about Firefly, Serenity, Joss, cast, crew etc!!! Mr. W. should take care of what he jokes about. This is serious !

(Ma turns her back, crosses her arms over chest in a major huff!)

Harummmph! April 22, I'll be busy washing my hair!

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Friday, June 4, 2004 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kiara:
Tickets and a coke on Thursday, one minute after midnight: $25
Tickets and a coke on Friday evening: $25
Tickets and a coke on Saturday evening: $25
Tickets and a coke on Sunday evening: $25

Making FOX look like a gorram idiot - priceless.



Didn't you forget the Fri, Sat, & Sun afternoon showings? ;)

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Friday, June 4, 2004 10:59 PM

Oh man, this has made my weekend!! And yes, we want HAPPY DANCE FOOTAGE!! (I'm sure Gina's was better than mine.....)

MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

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Friday, June 4, 2004 11:15 PM

Now how do I arrange to be in the US that day...
Damn backwater Danish movierelease dates

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Friday, June 4, 2004 11:17 PM

Yeah, well, I know how much stock to put into "Official Release Dates". The "Official Release Date" for EXORCIST: THE BEGINNING was April 16, 2004. Last week they decided to re-shoot the ending. Again. Not even in production yet.

I'll believe it when I'm buyin' my popcorn.

--Kala

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Friday, June 4, 2004 11:50 PM

Just tell me thats the world release date?
Comming to Australia RIGHT??

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 12:47 AM


I am so...very...happy



"The cosmic baker took us out of the oven a little too early, and that's the reason we're as crazy as we are..."

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 1:09 AM

I hate to tell you guys but I don't think Joss was kidding...here's the way I see it...movie execs are pretty, and what they do is look back on other similar movies and their successes then make demands on the writers/directors. In this case they looked at Star Trek another small to big screen sci-fi leap. So you can count on FireFly 2 being called "The Search For Mal."

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 1:17 AM

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG.. repeated ad infinitum.


________
"Let's moon 'em!"

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 1:47 AM

Yeay! Yeay! Yeay! That is four days before my birthday. It will be a great birthday next year! I know exactly where I am having my next birthday party. In the theater watching the BDM and cheering loudly in my head!

Aya

I love Simon!

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 2:57 AM

As much as it pains me, I may just go to LA to see this, not seeing it would be a pain, not one bit. I meant the going to LA part.

Maybe I'll go stand around at the premiere and rubberneck. That could be amusing.





~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 4:23 AM

4 days after my bday :)

Yeah, Adam said Summer was the first thing shot, so I don't think it was Mal's death.

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 4:34 AM

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Originally posted by zoid:

Mal's turning into a regular Duncan Idaho...



I wonder what they would have to do to wake up ghola Mal's memories. Try to kill Zoe? Kaylee takes him to bed? Badger takes him to bed?

hmmmm

www.thatweirdgirl.com

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 6:14 AM

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Which is pretty big for me (it felt weird to START with Mal's death, but scheduling isn't my area).


Seriously people it was a joke, and I couldn't stop laughin through the rest of the post. He would be greatly disappointed in his diehard fans for not immediately getting that, like he's gonna give away something that big if it were to actually happen? I don't think so!

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 9:36 AM

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Stealth wrote:
Friday, June 04, 2004 13:50
Just tell me thats the world release date?
Comming to Australia RIGHT??





I'm with you Stealth. I hope the Aussie browncoats get to see the BDM at the same time.

I couldnt stand hearing all you guys crowing..







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Saturday, June 5, 2004 11:47 AM

Ahh, finally, the sweet voice of reason. I'm usually the most gullible person in the world (e.g. nearly had a cardiac arrest at the beginning of Haken's April Fool post...) but even *I* got this one about Mal's death.

What a funny and thrilling and thoroughly Joss-ish message! YAYYYY!

(And I challenge you to say "Joss-ish message" three times fast.)

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 12:18 PM

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(it felt weird to START with Mal's death, but scheduling isn't my area).


Nice move, dumbass. Hee hee. Great way to tweak us Browncoats here, fearless leader. Kinda hard to have any future, be it movie or series, w/ out the Captain of the ship around. Of course, Mal has already died ONCE, only to rise agian so we could meet the REAL Malcom Reynolds.

April 22. (edited for accuracy) C'mon...really?

SHINY!

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 12:20 PM

1st day of spring is in March. Nice thought though.

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 12:32 PM

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1st day of spring is in March


Yeah, yeah, I knew that. Dammit. Too early in the a.m. for me to be posting anyhow. Where's that caffiene ?

Still though...April 22. SHINY!

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 4:03 PM

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Originally posted by Fireflythemovie:
1st day of spring is in March. Nice thought though.



March 21st (My birthday also)

Say, how about a group viewing in the UK? That'd be fun.

Jayne: "Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I beat you with till you understand who's in command."

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 5:09 PM

I wonder if Joss is going to hire former Buffyverse actors for "Serenity" the way he had Nathan, Gina, and Adam on Buffy and Angel.

I admit, the thought of Amy Acker, Allyson Hannigan, and Jewel Staite side by side by side gets my fanboy heart running.

"You're my what?"

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 6:56 PM

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I admit, the thought of Amy Acker, Allyson Hannigan, and Jewel Staite side by side by side gets my fanboy heart running


There are forces in the 'verse that simply should not be tampered with, ThisLand. I can't go into details of quantum physics and Universal Laws here, but the collection of those 3 heavenly bodies in near proximity toward each other would be....well, to quote the famous parapsychology professor, aka Ghostbuster, Egon Spengler..." It would be bad "

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 9:32 PM

If Amy and/or Allyson were like River, only not crazy and confused......and actually hunting her, that would be an interesting day!

And didn't Mal die moments after Bendis at Serenity Valley making the whole show a St Elsewhere clone? Nah...it's just Joss jossin' with us. Besides how many times can they kill Mal before we meet the real him?

-------------------------------------------------

We need coin!

Copper for a kiss!

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 9:53 PM

Guys, this is the same Joss who, during S5 Buffy, said (on different occasions):

-Tara is not Evil.
-Tara is Evil.
-Tara is a Weevil.

Do not trust him!

April 22. Awe-ruttin-some. Now, if I just had a 2005 calendar to mark up, I'd be in business.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 11:01 PM

Joss is just prepping the stage for the sequel to Serenity which is called "Malcolm the Reaver slayer"

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 11:39 PM

Thanks for the laugh, Calhoun!

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 11:40 PM

Death isn't necessarily death on this show, obviously. Simon and River had to "die" to get into the hospital. Mal has been near death. As long as he has Simon nearby to bring him back, or perhaps even River, he'll be around for the next movie.

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Sunday, June 6, 2004 8:13 PM

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Today was (as I think you know) the first day of filming of Serenity. Which is pretty big for me (it felt weird to START with Mal's death, but scheduling isn't my area)



ok every one's freaking out over this thing of "mal's death". 2 things to remember, this IS joss, so yeah, could be a big joke just to mislead/screw with us(anyone ever see the posts after season either 2, or 3 of buffy that the following season was going to be all goats all the time?)
but remember even though it's not the "buffyverse", it is still joss and mutant enemy, who have never had a hard time killing a main character( buffy, joyce,angel, spike, cordelia, fred, etc...)

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Sunday, June 6, 2004 8:34 PM

Makes one wonder...

If the show had been allowed to live out it's natural lifespan, it almost seems like someone would have eventually died.
We all understand that Firefly ain't Buffy or Angel, but still, I think thatjust as there is a completely different flavor between Buffy/Angel and Firefly there is also a similar flavor, and I think that Joss likes to reflect realistic situations(as best as a Fantasy or Sci-Fi can reflect reality.)
9 people on a ship the 'verse gunnin' for them, I am sure someone might have been hurt worse than could be fixed.
Now I am not saying that is a fact, but just look at other Whedon creations, then look at their first season, then look at the last season.

However, I am glad that it is going to a movie, this will change the rules a small bit, at least as I see it.
SBC

Bwahh!!!!!

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Sunday, June 6, 2004 9:46 PM

As others have said, but alarmingly others are still not sure, the 'death of Mal' is clearly a joke. 100% certain. Joss loves giving out false spoilers, but would never give out a real one, especially one of such magnitude. Anyone who did not get the joke should be forced to buy a ticket to Serenity for everybody they know. In fact, for everyone they've ever met. And for me.

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Sunday, June 6, 2004 9:49 PM

Yeah, I agree with last few, it was a joke, and thats it, he has said in past he HATES spoilers.

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Monday, June 7, 2004 12:14 PM

April 22nd 2005. Two days before my 30th birthday. It's a sign. It looks like a sign. It could be a sign. Oh well, I'll just have to watch it 30 times that weekend.

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Monday, June 7, 2004 1:04 PM

mal being dead ?....that wont stop him.

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Monday, June 7, 2004 1:37 PM

I think the best part of this weekend was when I told my son & daughter about the movie release date and how excited they got when they heard the news. They took the calendar off the wall & marked the date down on the 2005 calendar in my den.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Monday, June 7, 2004 5:18 PM

Invite to any of you Browncoats that live out of the country, if Universal doesn't release the BDM worldwide and you are so inclined to travel to the US, I have room for about a dozen sleeping bags in my living room, which is located in St. Petersburg, Florida (the rest of the house is located there too). Unless I do something wacky and travel to California for the premier, in which case I'll leave the keys under the mat.

Excitedly counting the days!

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Monday, June 7, 2004 5:26 PM

My birthday (while we're counting): March 22.

I'll still consider Serenity a present :)

- FW

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Monday, June 7, 2004 8:37 PM

Any guess on what rating the BDM will have?
Would it be a PG-13? or R?

"I ain't crazy and I've got papers to prove it"

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Tuesday, June 8, 2004 3:39 AM

Ahhhh ... April is no longer the cruelest month!

Keep Flyin'

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Tuesday, June 8, 2004 5:03 AM

Wu de ma!

Somebody else got the T.S. Elliot vibe! I'm NOT the only obscurantist in these here parts!

Color me comforted!



Department of Redundancy Department

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UFO
Tuesday, June 8, 2004 8:22 PM

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Originally posted by orangerful:
My forecast - Serenity is going to embarass the hell outta Lucas that weekend, grossing more money and earning better reviews.



Not a chance in hell.

While Firefly is a great show, and Serenity will be a great movie…but if you think about it no one really knows about it but a handful of geeks. No way it's going to compete with Ep III where we get to see the birth of Darth Vader.

My prediction…Ep III will make more money in its first weekend than Serenity will make its entire run. I've got money to back up any bets people want to place.

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Tuesday, June 8, 2004 9:41 PM

Floor space anywhere in the continental US always welcome, although let's hope Universal release Serenity worldwide on the 22nd. One way or another, I'm seeing this movie that day...

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Tuesday, June 8, 2004 10:27 PM

"...Mal's death..."
Tee-heee!
The minute I read that I knew some o' y'all would be freakin' out.
If this is a real post, then I'm doin' a happy dance along with Gina...and I can't wait till April 2005.

They can't take the sky from us, gorrammit!
; )

"Take me, sir. Take me hard."

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JK
Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:10 AM

I admit it. I was duped. I forgot it was Joss Whedon saying the words. Well, typing them. Anyway, I thought that Mal was going to die.

I don't think I'll ever learn...

JK

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 5:34 AM

Ok I'm new to the Firefly world. I love Star Trek and I like Firefly almost as much. I think that the FOX company are a bunch of FOOLS by the way they treated FF. I hope to see another six sesons of FF. But one thing as I was reading what Joss said "Today was (as I think you know) the first day of filming of Serenity. Which is pretty big for me (it felt weird to START with Mal's death...)" Now as far as I'm know is that it will not be the same with out Mal, that is like cutting off the head and expecting the body to servive. Anyway, Live long and prosper Firefly and Joss

Coby

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 7:36 AM

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Today was (as I think you know) the first day of filming of Serenity. Which is pretty big for me (it felt weird to START with Mal's death, but scheduling isn't my area)



Here's how it is... for those who are saying the movie can't start with Mal's death, because Adam Baldwin said it will start with a scene about river, there may be something you guys are missing. Movies are almost never shot i their chronological order. Joss clearly says "scheduling" (not story lines) is not his area. In movies when a particular set is constructed every scene using that set is filmed and then they move on to the next set and disassemble the first so maybe it's that the first set being built is also the one where Mal's death will be shot. So both statements (Joss's and Adam's) can be true because they don't conflict with each other. Fear not fellow browncoats i don't think he will be dying in the first movie especially since they want to try for a sequel and eventually a trilogy. It could be a future scene that never happens, or one that has to be prevented, or how about the possibility of a dream sequence where something that can't possibly happen (like our fearless captain sucking the final big lemon) happens then someone in the movie wakes up (ala princess buttercups wedding to humperdink in the Princess Bride) and realizes it was only a dream. Rivers dream perhaps. There are so many ways it could go it's certain to be something we didn't expect. And if he should die, remember, it's not his first time (War Stories,Out of Gas) and I'm sure in the immortal words of Arnie, " He'll be back"
April is locked and i am going to shoot for at least four showings (me personally not counting all my friends and whatever random strangers i can drag in off the street) of Serenity during opening week.

Mal: "Well lady, I must say...you're my kinda stupid."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 8:35 AM

Alright, I can't just lurk any more (first post), I have to weigh in with my two cents here.

First of all: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAY

::does the dance of joy::

Alright, now that I got that out of my system, my 2 cents on the Mal's death bit. I suspect that Joss is doing something truly evil here, telling us the truth, just not the whole truth. I suspect that at some point (although now that I think about this, it's been done before and is rather cliche, but fits) Mal will fake his own death to avoid someone or another. Maybe get some time with the Alliance off his back or something. But anyways, this would allow for a death scene without the seemingly necisary death. Just my 2 cents here, seems like something Joss would do based upon the misdirection seen in his series.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 10:30 AM

Well as I am sure as has been pointed out before, death is not the handicap it used to be.

Personally I don't think they killed off Mal, because he died already. He got over it, but still, he was there, did that, and has the t-shirt.

"I was killed by Nishka and all I got was this lousy t-shirt. (And my ear sewn back on.)"

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 10:35 AM

I don't think so, and I am willing to bet as high as a nickle.

The Star Wars franchise has gone down hill steadily these last few movies. I mean Jar Jar Binks? Give me a break. The last two have been pretty bad. And I don't think the next one will make nearly that much at the box office.

Plus. despite the fact that only a "handful of geeks" know about it now, doesn't mean we geeks are gonna keep our mouth shut. The best advertising for a movie is word of mouth. And also, because it is sci fi, but NOT Star Wars, I think that is going to be a big plus.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by STICKS:
mal being dead ?....that wont stop him.

Liable to just piss him off real good. Like it did the last time.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by nedward:
Floor space anywhere in the continental US always welcome, although let's hope Universal release Serenity worldwide on the 22nd. One way or another, I'm seeing this movie that day...



I think you're the only one that noticed the invite, guess you get the living room all to yourself, ha ha. My e-mail is realflygal@hotmail.com, just keep that in a Palm Pilot somewhere in case it becomes necessary. I'll be hoping for a worldwide release so all the Browncoats can see it "together" but if not, at least you have a place on the 22nd. Where do you live?

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by fireflygal:

I think you're the only one that noticed the invite, guess you get the living room all to yourself, ha ha. ... I'll be hoping for a worldwide release so all the Browncoats can see it "together" but if not, at least you have a place on the 22nd. Where do you live?



England. My bank balance hopes it'll be a worldwide release, but it's great to know an invite's there. Thanks! :)

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 2:19 PM

Hot Damn!!

If I could buy my tickets this far in advance, I would buy out one full showing and invite everyone I know!!! And after those 5 people, I would invite everyone here!!

Mal's death doesnt phase me. Joss has said worse things, only to be proven untrue. {Ya gotta read inbetween the lines with him}

There is one thing I wish to say, however... let us not get our hopes TOO high. I know I will like the movie no matter what... but that is only because I am not thinking its going to blow me away with story, visual effects and acting. It is only when we have built up a movie to some unattainable level that we get all disappointed. Matrix 1 was great, the follow ons, not so great as we wanted that same OMG feeling.

{Dont look at me like that... I am NOT saying that Serenity is going to suck}

April 22nd is a great date. Its after all the early spring romantic comedies and before the early summer action flicks. Yes, dates can change, but they can also be static.

So... in closing, let me just say ...

Juh jen sh guh kwai luh duh jean jan!!!

Thank you, good night!

I call her "Vera"

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 3:21 PM

Okay with the whole "Mal's Death" thing. Everyone does realize movies are filmed out of order right? Because it seems because Joss said it's being filmed first, everyone is assuming it's at the beginning of the movie. Which is not necessarily true. Hence why Joss made the comment about scheduling not being his area.

Also we have seen Joss kill main characters off more then once. He has done it in his other shows. He's not afriad to do it hehehe.

It also isn't the first time he has said major spoilers about something just to get the fans talking, and to get word out on his projects. Great idea cause it makes people sit on the edge of their seat when the show/movie actually does air.

Then again you never know it is the great JW who is doing this. He could be lying just to get us interested and sitting on the edge of our seats in the movie always on edge (like what said before).

All we can really do is sit and wait ^^

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Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:12 AM

OMG Joss don't scare us like that!
The Mal's death thing got me for a moment before i remembered who said it.

So.....April 22nd. Ubershiny!

"What happens if you fall?"
"I'm thinking we'll rise again."

"When your miracle gets here, you just pound this button once." -Alan Tudyk, in a message to Joss with the packaged button, about the Firefly movie

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OOG
Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:28 AM

Hm. April 22nd...that's 1 day after my DD's 10th birthday. Think I can convince her that taking her to see Serenity is a good gift??

___________
Loni

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