Isreal attacks Turkish aid convoy.
POSTED BY: oldenglanddry
UPDATED: Saturday, January 4, 2025 02:51
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Has the Israeli state gone too far this time?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/10195838.stm
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More than 10 people have been killed after Israeli commandos stormed a convoy of ships carrying aid to the Gaza Strip, the Israeli army says
Yeah, that could have been handled a bit better.
Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."
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Shit, when don't they ?
I mean, call a spade a spade, it's genocide that is their intent, and has been from the very start - only problem is that most of the folk who will call it that have either been driven half mad by rage to where they're so rabid as to not be credible, or have intolerance issues of their own and thus their reasons are suspect.
But as usual, the world turns it's head and pretends not to see, and this incident, like so many more, often worse, every single day, will just be ignored as everyone dances around on tip-toe to avoid offending the easily offendable crybaby that is Israel, even when they spill the blood of innocents by the gallon.
(not that this absolves anyone else, but it damn sure doesn't absolve THEM either!)
And I find that the most offensive - they got no kinda "right" to commit terrorism against other folk, no more than those other folk got any "right" to do it to no one else, but we pretend otherwise, and funnel our money and military resources to support it, making us even bigger hypocrites than they are.
Anyhow, the rest of the world is gonna ignore this, sorry to say - especially the americans, who are busy cheering the war machine while celebrating the slaughter of its unwitting pawns for the corporate empire, with this nice sponsored celebration all wrapped up in nationalism to hide the hurt, the horror and the blood while the knife drives deeper into the publics back.
That said, even their own citizens are starting to shake off the indoctrination over there, and on this day, somewhere in Israel, there's a Gadsden flying proudly above a group of people who mean those words not to all the boogeymen their government holds up to frighten them into compliance, but rather to that government itself.
And a couple pence of the dollars that bought that gadsden and brought it to them, are mine.
The fastest way to cut monsters out of power is to stop taking their orders.
-Frem
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The only ones calling for genocide here are the Islamic nut cases.
Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."
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What is the legal situation, exactly, since this took place in international waters?
Can ships, no matter their supposed destination, be attacked in international waters? I find it hard to believe that anything the flotilla could have done with small arms and knives/axes would have endangered Israeli soldiers if they hadn't chosen to be lowered onto those ships from helicopters. But I may be missing something about the legalities of the situation.
Anyone have better insight?
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And that's the rub for me here. These weren't pirate ships, or drug smugglers, so I'm not sure what RIGHT anyone had to board them.
Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."
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Would the correct response have been to wait until they try to enter Israeli waters and then contact them, threaten them and eventually, if necessary, shoot at them from afar?
That would seem more logical to me, anyway. I mean, it was a "civilian" ship and all, but once you're in a country's territory that's a different matter, right?
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Technically, aren't the Israelis the pirates in this instance?
Mike
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor
This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma
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They're pretty low on my list at the moment. I don't buy that Palestinians are terrorists or that Israelis are warmongers, but a regime change in Israel might not be a bad idea. Leadership have been pretty bad since some right winger shot Rabin, which was sort of obvious was what had happened but they didn't admit for years, and now they do, 'cause you know, they'd much rather think it was some Palestinian.
But netanyahu, who was always a nuttin' yahoo, has revealed his true colors, which are very similar to Clinton's, even if not as bad, do show the same basic thought process:starve 'em out.
Skip the political hedging and just call these guys capitalist stylists, or stalinists even. The iPad doesn't like the word Stalinist.
Oh and Israel is currently a moron, which is to say the govt, because we wouldn't want to be known internationally for the policies of our govt. But turkey is currently the military force at protects Israel from an ass whooping by virtue of having a million man army, and it has become politically untenable for them to continue doing so, so I expect someone else will get involved. Maybe we will start drafting American soldiers and sending them over to Israel.
ETA: Rap, I think Frem's point was that withholding food represents a policy of genocide. It's like Clinton's policy in Iraq, or domestic policies in Sudan, Ethiopia and Zimbabe: cut off the food supply to starve out the people. It's not only inhuman, it's damn cowardly. But it's what Stalin did, and what a large number of socialist states he set up have done. (an excellent reason to not have any socialism: not long before they set up national food distribution and then come up with some reason why we need it.)
But the right thinks because socialist ideology is leftist that it's immune to becoming a socialist state, but really, that's one of the things I hated about Bush. Netanyahu Is clearly headed even further down this past, helping to identify the right with socialist tactics formerly of the left.
It's also not helping Israel. In fact, it's moronic for Israel. There's just no possibility that the flotilla is a military vessel. If the turks wanted to attack Israel, they'd just invade. It would be a very short conflict. Six days maybe.
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This just in: Netanyahu cancels meeting with Obama
The purpose all along? I don't know what the agenda of avoiding meeting with the president might be,but he seems he'll bent on it.
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