Isreal attacks Turkish aid convoy.
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The aid is already flowing. This was gonna happen because the activists aren't peaceful. Clubs and knives against the commandos. Israel lets those boats in here comes more weapons. Just remember the rancher in Arizona complained and complained about those poor humble mexicans now he is dead. There ya go. piratecat
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Israeli ships opened fire on the Turkish ships 30 minutes before the Israeli commandos boarded the ships. All the Turks had were steel pipes for self defense.
Turkey is a member of NATO.
When Israeli attacked Turkish ships in international waters, Israeli attacked NATO.
NATO has 1,000s of nukes, Israel has 400 nukes.
Israeli sub sank the South Korean warship in a false flag attack to blame N Korea, just like it sank USS Liberty to blame Egypt.
Do the math for WW3, as the jew banksters run all the way to their private central counterfeit banks.
Death to all Israelis! Nuke em till they glow!!!
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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
Byte, I typed Hamas and meant Hamas. That the Palestinians elected Hamas does not speak highly of democratic elections, or the Palestinians (for that matter, Netanyahu's election). I may be a joo, and idiot, but I can at least keep my genocidal groups straight.
Take everything I say with a grain of Kosher salt. I am not an expert on international, but fail to see how the exact location of the flotilla matters so long as it was attempting to run the blockade.
I candidly admit that I do not know the full scope of the blockade, but I have heard complaints that it prevents gaza fishermen from doing their job. That makes the blockade the trouble. Would people really be less offended if this went down a mile from shore?
Anyway, I appreciate those who have resisted hysterical moral preening and faux macho posturing on this issue. I know how hard it is to resist chest thumping when joos are involved.
Location, location, location. It makes all the difference in the world. If I head south from Key West, that doesn't show a clear intent that I'm headed to Cuba. I might be, I might not be. You don't know their INTENT if they're still dozens or hundreds of miles away.
As to how they boarded the ships and why they were "attacked"... Well, if someone knocks on my door, I can say, "No, thank you"; if they drop onto my roof, I have to assume I'm under attack, and that they aren't there to try to sell me on The Watchtower. Capisce? Someone drops onto my boat from a helo in open water, I'm thinking it's pirates, and I'm gonna defend myself with whatever I have.
Silly me, but I thought there was some group of people who were cheered as "heroes" for trying something similar aboard a certain Flight 93 on September 11th. When under attack, do you NOT have the right to defend yourself with all possible methods and weapons? I thought self-defense was supposed to be one of those "inalienable rights" we supposed all men were born with.
Mike
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor
This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I do grant the point that it's ridiculous that who is in the right here should be based on something as arbitrary as location.
Personally, my feeling is that the Israelis just wanted to defend their country from gun smuggling, which is understandable (if that's true), and the flotilla just wanted to bring food and medicine to Palestinians. So, if I look at it as both groups had good intentions, then this is just a sad mistake.
I also note that I would really, really appreciate it if Israel stopped MAKING sad mistakes. It'd be good for Israel's image, too, because some people think they're actually doing it on purpose.
Yup. If a kid bites someone in class, it's an incident and a sad mistake. If he does it a few more times, he starts gettin' a reputation as a biter, ya know? (I borrowed that from "Justified"; it kinda stuck with me)
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I think we need to hire someone to follow PN around and just keep saying in his ear, "Psssst! You're not helping!"
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LOL@"Psssst! You're not helping!"
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Racheal Corrie headed to Gaza
http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/irish-rachel-corrie-still-o
n-course-for-gaza/
Email From AID Ship 'Rachel Corrie' Enroute To Gaza
http://rense.com/general91/rc.htm
Rachel Corrie, an American girl murdered by Israeli jew army
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBo
x&ei=OdcFTJ71NcKqlAf00Zi7Cg&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAUQBSgA&q=rachel+corrie&spell=1
PS: Gaza is NOT part of Israel, so Israel has no right to pirate ships off its coast.
Death to all Israelis! Arrest for all jews!
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Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
Location, location, location. It makes all the difference in the world. If I head south from Key West, that doesn't show a clear intent that I'm headed to Cuba. I might be, I might not be. You don't know their INTENT if they're still dozens or hundreds of miles away.
As to how they boarded the ships and why they were "attacked"... Well, if someone knocks on my door, I can say, "No, thank you"; if they drop onto my roof, I have to assume I'm under attack, and that they aren't there to try to sell me on The Watchtower. Capisce? Someone drops onto my boat from a helo in open water, I'm thinking it's pirates, and I'm gonna defend myself with whatever I have.
Silly me, but I thought there was some group of people who were cheered as "heroes" for trying something similar aboard a certain Flight 93 on September 11th. When under attack, do you NOT have the right to defend yourself with all possible methods and weapons? I thought self-defense was supposed to be one of those "inalienable rights" we supposed all men were born with.
I have not read the minds of any of the activists, but am certain that they intended to brech the blockade. Short of telepathy, I'll settle for circumstantial evidence. The flotilla organizers knew the blockade would prevent them from reaching Gaza, and deliberately organized in spite of it. Their course was set on the blockade, and they ignored orders to turn around. This better represents intent than an argument over miles.
I do hope nobody drops on your roof, but if they did, I don't begrudge your surprise. It would be unlike like having IDF commandos board your ship after warning you to turn around. The parties weren't exactly strangers at this point--each side knew what the other was doing. The activists wanted to deliver goods; the Israelis wanted to stop them.
I'm not prepared to say that clubbing IDF soldiers under the circumstances was reasonable, anymore than I'm prepared to say that the blockade is reasonable.
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Hello,
If one is to draw a line in the sand, one should wait for me to cross it before taking offense.
Never mind that the blockade itself disturbs me.
One also wonders why they weren't equipped less-than-lethal if they knew they were tackling civvies with sticks and stones trying to deliver aid.
--Anthony
"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor
"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma
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Hello Pirate,
It's not a NATO convoy unless NATO orders it to assemble. As far as I know, NATO did not send the convoy in question. Though... perhaps they should have.
--Anthony
"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor
"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma
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