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NIKI2

Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:51 PM

I'm a refugee from the "OB" (the original Firefly forum board put up and still maintained by Fox). Looking for another home.

I feel heartened by the above "I love freedom of speech just as much as you, but I hope that you will post messages that are at least somewhat civil and in good taste." quote...and am hoping that means this is a safe place? I'd love to meet others who appreciated Firefly as much as I did, have no problem with a good civil debate and can tease along with the best of them.

Is this a safe place? If so, may I join you all?

PATCHIST

Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:14 PM

Gah! The picture under my name is showing the dead bodies in 'Bushwhacked'.

Hi Im new here too. Hope we're welcome here.

MANGOLO

Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:15 PM

Of course. A big aloha from me!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=86085840444

OUT2THEBLACK

Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
I'm a refugee from the "OB" (the original Firefly forum board put up and still maintained by Fox). Looking for another home. That place is terribly toxic and even tho' there are some nice people there, some others are really vicious so finally I left.

I feel heartened by the above "I love freedom of speech just as much as you, but I hope that you will post messages that are at least somewhat civil and in good taste." quote...and am hoping that means this is a safe place? I'd love to meet others who appreciated Firefly as much as I did, have no problem with a good civil debate and can tease along with the best of them, but the things that happened there have made me very gun-shy of joining anywhere else.

Is this a safe place? If so, may I join you all?

'Safe' unless you run into Hill Folk in Real World Event Discussions...

In that case , go in Guns Up , and wear your full-body condom...

Lovely to have you aboard !

Make yourself to home...

TRAVELER

Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:15 PM

Hello NIKI2 and PATCHIST:

Glad to have you on board. We are always grateful to welcome more Browncoats into our verse.

Traveler

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

KWICKO

Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:31 PM

Yes, this is a most welcoming place - UNLESS you wander into the Real World Event Discussions (aka RWED) area. Then all bets are off. If you stumble in there, wear a very thick skin.

And Welcome to the Shiniest Ship in the 'Verse!

Mike

NIKI2

Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:52 PM

Oh, goodie, someobody to be new with, that's neat to! Glad to meet you.

To everyone else, thanx for the warm welcomes! I will DEFINITELY make note of the area to stay away from.

But it looks like this place is livelier than just that area, yes? I'll have a look around, choose a corner and stow my stuff. I like the look of the boat. Look forward to chawin' the spit wit' ya! Niki

KWICKO

Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:02 PM

Oh, we've got emoticons aplenty - when you hit "Reply", you'll see them on the let side of your screen.

As for staying out of RWED, I'm reminded of the movie "2010":

All these worlds are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landing there. Use them together, use them in peace.

I won't tell ANYONE to attempt no landing in RWED; I'd just say that before jumping in, lurk for a while and watch. Have a point of view, and get ready to defend it against all sides. As one of the longtime members often points out, you can learn an awful lot about people by just asking the same question of them: "And why do you believe that?"

So, that warning given, I'd just say this:

Jump in! The water's fine - although there ARE sharks in it.

(oooh, look ^^^ - There's an emoticon now!)

By the way, we love getting new members around here. Makes us feel mighty an' all.

Mike

NIKI2

Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:36 PM

I already like you, Mike; jumped in down there and liked what you said. I thank you for the idea of inquiring why someone feels a certain way, that will help IMMENSELY and I'll remember it.

And yeah, I saw the emoticons...and will explore further. You couldn't put up a photo or anything else over there, and I'm an emoticonaholic, so I'll enjoy it here! Emoticons and photos and color and stuff make it fun...

Thanx! Niki (p.s., LOVED 2010...just introduced friend to 2001; haven't seen it in 30 years!)

TWIGA

Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:45 PM

I am new as well, and I love what I have seen so far ... intelligent commentary ... clear thinking ... and all with the same shiny attitude!!

KINGEICHOLZ

Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:49 PM

Yes it's safe just watch how you spell people on here are real picky about spelling.

real man.

KWICKO

Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:

I'll listen to your advice and it SEEMS so far like you don't have the same kind of complete whackos with no self-control whatsoever (I hope?).

Oh, we have 'em. In fact, on at least a few occasions, I've BEEN them! :)

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p.s., LOVED 2010...just introduced friend to 2001; haven't seen it in 30 years!)

I don't know if I *LOVED* 2010 - it had its issues - but I found it certainly helped clarify a few things. Think of it as 2001 For Dummies. I think I must see 2001 at least every few years. It changes; watch it at 20, then watch it at 40, and see if you see it the same. I was lucky enough to see it in the theatre when it was new and I was much, much younger. It made an impact, to say the least.

I was just digging through some boxes of old stuff in the garage, and found my 2001: A Space Odyssey ("In CINERAMA!") poster still rolled up and tucked away. Might have to matte and frame that one...

Mike

KWICKO

Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by KingEICHOLZ:
Yes it's safe just watch how you spell people on here are real picky about spelling.

real man.

Only with self-proclaimed "geniuses" like you, Kingelbert...

KWICKO

Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by Twiga:
I am new as well, and I love what I have seen so far ... intelligent commentary ... clear thinking ... and all with the same shiny attitude!!

And a big, shiny WELCOME to you, too, Twiga!

Glad to have more folk aboard our li'l boat.

We've done the impossible, and that makes us SHINY!

Mike

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:26 AM

Always glad to see a couple of newbies, especially one experienced somewhere else. Welcome to the party. Got Wife Soup and Fresh Bao over here.

Looks like everybody's beaten me to the punch: look out in RWED, but if you can take it, it's fun too.

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:39 AM

I can take it, up to a point. But I've been in three or four threads there already, and it's SUCH a joy! Honest debate with INTELLIGENT people...I'm in heaven! Admittedly so far because not only are the posts intelligent, but there seems to be somewhat of a left leaning...ahem.

But I have questions...I'll wander around, pracitce and get my shit together, but a couple of things would help speed it up:

How does one go back to replies to one's topics?

How does one get bak out of a particular thread back to that forum?

Is there a way of being notified of new posts in a particular thread?

Much appreciated. Between the lovely welcomes, the appreciated words of warning, the intelligent posts (hey, I don't care if you're right or left, actually, as long as you MAKE SENSE!), the ability to use my beloved emoticons, and the fact that this forum is still ALIVE (which many Firefly forums, in my wandering around, aren't)...I'm starting to feel at home already. SHINY!!

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:52 AM

"2001: A Space Odyssey ("In CINERAMA!") poster still rolled up and tucked away" -- ooo, lucky you!

No, to me 2010 is plain old fun sci fi...2001 is a completely different matter. "Loved" as in "enjoyed", actually, not "appreciated" and "thought provoking" as 2001.

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:55 AM

I know, isn't it fantastic? We'll have to wander around and find our way together, along with our "compatriot", eh? Shiny, shiny, shiny!

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:02 AM

That TOO? Oooo, I've truly gone to Firefly Heaven...I don't mind people misspelling, and at my age typos are frequent, but a total lack of grasp of English floors me.

BYTEMITE

Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:16 AM

Hi there you two!

You've received plenty of warning about the RWED, so don't think I need to say anything more than even if you do see a really heated nasty fight, a lot of those people are friends on other parts of the board despite hanging out on the opposite ends of the political pool.

We do have a few very strongly right-leaning folks out there, but they're honest and genuine and thoughtful in their beliefs. Everyone is, actually, don't mean to imply our liberals aren't or that in other places there's no such thing as honest right-wing folk. (I'm neither, for the record, if you end up talking to me you'll see a lot of 'on the other hand's. But don't mistake that for me not having a position. You'll see. :) )

You will see maybe some hints of prejudice and bias that may alarm you, even some strange behaviour. Heck, I readily admit I'm a kook, and biased towards the scientific sides of an issue. But we also respect people's right to speak, so we also don't really believe in banning anyone. If you see someone who just really offends you and you can't understand why we allow them to hang around, the best course of action I can suggest is to ignore them.

So, on other topics... If you guys are really into Firefly and the Whedonverse (and you're here, so I'm assuming you are), I thought I might point out our fanfiction, images, and fanart area, the Blue Sun Room.

MAL4PREZ

Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:18 AM

Hi Niki. Welcome!

There's all kinds of goodies buried away in old threads on fff.net, just waiting for new eyes like yours to dig them out and refresh them. The Blue Sun Room forum has many insanely thought-provoking discussions of characterization and plot. Mostly in terms of fanfic, but even if you're not into that, the writers here are pretty clever and their ideas are good insights into Joss's lovely `verse.

Most show-related topics have been pretty much gone over to death by now though, so RWED is the liveliest place. There surely are some great discussions happening there, and I've gotten many eye-opening insights into politics and such through those threads over the years. I've lurked now and then this summer and the mob has seemed well behaved lately. There hasn't been much of the usual tit-for-tat and name-calling.

I'm telling you, though, beware! You never know when someone unexpected is gonna jump out of nowhere and rip you a new one. It's happened to me, and wasn't pleasant. I don't have a tough enough hide for it. I generally only jump into the RWED fray if there's hard science or cute kitty pictures involved.

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BYTEMITE

Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:24 AM

Ah, the cute kitty RWED threads. Those fiendish felines, luring us into our false sense of security! I owe much to the advanced warning those threads have given me.

I am now fully prepared to accept our fluffy overlords. There is no resisting those adorable little eyes and whiskers!

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:43 AM

Wow, what wonderful welcomes!

I look forward to many lively debates. I have no problem with people laying into me, I can pretty much hold my own.

Nathan is an incredibly well-mannered, gentle person from what I heard (a number of those there have met him and others of the BDHs--do you call them that here, too?). His Twitter signature is a good sign of that. I respect him, Joss and Firefly.

I only discovered Firefly by chance (having been somewhat of a Buffy fan and hearing good things about it) a year or so ago. I had rented what looked like a kind of neat movie called "Serenity", really liked it.

So when I discovered Firefly I fell in love...of course. It wasn't until several epis in that I realized it was connected to Serenity, which was a gas. Bought all of it, plus "Done the Impossible", of course, and been in love ever since!

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:49 AM

As to stuff to find, oh, I will. I really look forward to exploring (oh, boy, a brand new boat!), especially as this boat is FAR more advanced than the OB and has places in it I'm dying to investigate!

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:51 AM

Okay, I gotta find those cute kitty threads...!

Just had a bit of that on the board I left, and it was FUN! Myself, I'm a dog person, but we've had up to eight cats at once and it was quite an...ahem...learning experience! All rescues of one form or another, and I'd never had cats (!), so there were a few years of them eddicating us. Eeep.

Can anyone gimme a hint where they are? If not, I'll scrounge around...hee, hee, hee!

MAL4PREZ

Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:02 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Okay, I gotta find those cute kitty threads...!

Do not fear me. I am a benevolent fluffy overload...

Kitties tend to take over the oops threads, like this one:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=39402

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FREELANCERTEX

Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:03 AM

no it's not safe!! get out! get out while you still can!!!! before you get sucked into the--aw what am i saying, we all love it here @_@. welcome to the madness Niki ^_^

ECGORDON

Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:24 AM

Hey, niki, welcome aboard. I haven't visited the OB is several months because, as you said, the Off Topic threads were practically the only place with any activity, and I am not one to discuss politics and religion with someone I do not know, and not that often even with people I do know. I learned my lesson years ago when Adam Baldwin himself chastised me for less than "right" thinking, if you know what I mean.

One thing we don't have here that you were used to on the OB is the UMTM (that's "Unread Messages To Me" for those not familiar with that board). I've noticed you've already responded directly to some other members, but here it is best to hit the "Reply With Quote" link on someone's post so that everyone knows to whom you are addressing a particular comment.

All of the various forums have a link on the right hand side of the main page, and clicking on one of them will take you to a page with a list of the last fifty or so active threads, and at the bottom is a link to threads that have been archived. Also, when you click on any thread look at the top left of the page for the "Latest Posts" to see if there are new, unread posts on that thread. If there are, it will say "Since your last view," but if not it will display posts "As of today."

There are several informative threads around about how to post images here, how to upload stuff to the Blue Sun Room, etc. I'll look around and see if I can find them to bring them back up to the top of the list for you.

Enjoy your time here, and as always, keep flying!

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

PEACEKEEPER

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:36 AM

Hi there new guys.I would like to reiterate what a cool little site this is.Appreciation goes out to Haken, who is the site's owner.It's colourful,user friendly and interesting to browse around.I've noticed loads of new converts entering the fray recently and it's fun to look at reactions to episodes that have been watched by them for the first time.So even the stuff that we've been over hundreds of times before is still often revisited from a fresh newbie perspective.I can remember posting a question about Inara not so long ago(as a relative newbie)and the guys who have been here for eons turned it into a thread that was 200 posts long.So even well explored stuff still illicits fervent discussion.Welcome aboard.I'm sure you already own plenty virtual brown coats,but may I be so bold as to bring out a fresh one from the site cupboard and issue it to you on behalf of everybody.

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:18 AM

"Mal" & Mike: Your Cosmo and Rodger look SOO much like my beloved Missy (especially Rodger), only she never got bigger than your pix as kitties. She was cat of neighbor across the street who keeled over in aerobics class in her early 40s. Family came, took one cat, left Missy who ran away. I heard her one night, started leaving food out for her--VERY shy. Finally trapped her by leaving food in our pickup and standing in the rain waiting for her to enter, then shutting door.

She was my miracle cat. TINY, never left my bedroom, adored me more than any cat I've ever known or could imagine. I nursed her all through cancer (which she got by hiding under that house while they blanketed it and sprayed it, I believe). One day, for the first time ever, she left my room, came upstairs, walked up to my husband and rubbed against his leg, up to my brother-in-law (who lived with us off and on) and rubbed up against his leg, walked out into the back yard (!) and lay in the sun for a long time. That night she died.

And they say animals don't know. I've never gotten over her, even tho' I'm a dog person for the mot part.

The pix are wonderful--the captions almost as good, thank you!

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:20 AM

Thanx, Tex...you couldn't drive me away with a pitchfork at this point.

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:23 AM

Thanx Gordon, I really appreciate your help. Sounds a bit confusing how to check for replies, but I'm sure I'll figure it out, and it's well worth it. This is one FINE boat you guys got yourownselves, if I may say so, I'm loving everything I'm finding in wandering around, and I like the colorfulness of everything.

Off to have more fun on walkabout...

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:29 AM

Thanks Peacekeeper, I will wear the coat proudly! Yes, I love the look of the boat, it looks like a LOT of work went into it, I'd like to thank Haken too.

I've always been sad I came so late to Firefly and missed SO much, people who got to go to panels and see/hear the BDHs in person (tho' I did get to meet Adam briefly at this year's Wondercon here in SF), and some who even got to meet and talk to Nathan--and apparently both they and Joss even used to post there.

But I guess I can see it from your perspective, since I know each person I've turned on to Firefly let's ME see it from a different perspective and makes it fresh in a way to watch it with them. I'm glad we can give some back of what we receive from being able to be part of a Browncoat community, late-comers that we be! :biggrin"

It's really nice that this place is so active; I searched around (someone at the OB suggested this as a "much friendlier" Firefly forum when I first went there, but I didn't remember the name until I got here) and most of those I found were long dead or had few posts in a long time. This boat ROCKS!

PATCHIST

Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:10 AM

Phew! This thread got long. Been gone for like 12 hours there's already 30 replies. Thanks for welcoming us here. As for RWED, I'm somewhat apathetic to politics so I dont think I'll enter a discussion about that anytime soon.

FILLYGIRL

Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:02 PM

Niki,
Hi its Adam's Hot Pearls from the O.B. I just wanted to let you know lots of people from there post/read over here too. You might not get away from them.
From your posting over there you should be in the RW thread, you have things to say, if you remember I was NEVER in those threads. Either you agree or you stay out, its the same everywhere.....

Chaplain of the 76th Independant Battalion

Do not bother dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

KWICKO

Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:04 PM

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I'm in heaven! Admittedly so far because not only are the posts intelligent, but there seems to be somewhat of a left leaning...ahem. Back at the OB, the hardline right wingnuts were virtually the only ones "in charge", and their "debates" weren't even sensible...you want birthers? Deathers? People convinced Obama is the anti-Christ? Go there!

Oh, we got heathens a'plenty right here... ;)

Just wait; you'll see some rather eye-opening stuff. Our nutters will take a back seat to no one else's nutters.

As for "non-sensible" debates... well, I confess I've been in more than a few. Sometimes it IS fun to poke the hornets' nest a bit, just to watch 'em go crazy. Or craziER.

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How does one go back to replies to one's topics?

Well, in your profile (My Firefly), you can scroll down and see all your recent posts and replies. If you don't want to scroll to where you left off, you can click on the most recent, and it will pop the window to where you last posted on that thread, so you can pick up from there.

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How does one get bak out of a particular thread back to that forum?

Not sure what you're trying to do. I'm on a Mac, so I'm in the habit of just hitting "Command-Enter" on my keyboard, which opens whatever link I'm looking at in a new window. I take it from there, and when I'm done, I close the window and I've still got the old window open and pulled up. I tend to leave my browser bookmarked to fireflyfans.net/community, so when I open it, I've got a quick overview of the forum areas and the last 5 active threads.

From there, I tend to look at what's going on in General Discussions, RWED, Other Science Fiction Series, and occasionally the Buffy and Angel areas. I used to spend quite a bit of time in the Buffy/Angel areas, but there hasn't been much in the way of news out of those 'verses in quite some time, so not so much reason to hang out there. Except for "The Tragic Death of Count Chocula" that got posted there. It's hilarious. And horrible. In equal measures. If you don't know what it is, Google-image search it. (It's work-safe, so don't worry; it's just a painting).

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Is there a way of being notified of new posts in a particular thread?

Yes. In your profile, you can add signatures, avatars, and click on the "e-mail me when someone replies to me" button. It doesn't work for me because I registered under old, dead e-mail addresses which I no longer have access to, and I haven't updated those addresses. Plus, with some of the "friends" I've made in the RWED area, I'm not sure I *want* my real e-mail addy out there in the world... ;)

Mike

KWICKO

Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:11 PM

Quote:

You've received plenty of warning about the RWED, so don't think I need to say anything more than even if you do see a really heated nasty fight, a lot of those people are friends on other parts of the board despite hanging out on the opposite ends of the political pool.

And THAT is the way we try to keep it. Not sure we always succeed as a group (I know I've let some personal "vendettas" cloud my posts in other forums a few times, but I'm trying to be a better person about it. Usually.), but we try to keep our feuds confined to one or two areas. I have vehement disagreements with some people here, but when we discuss things like "Silent Running" or episodes of Firefly, we can actually find common grounds for agreement. What unites us is the show.

Mike

KWICKO

Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:14 PM

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But we also respect people's right to speak, so we also don't really believe in banning anyone. If you see someone who just really offends you and you can't understand why we allow them to hang around, the best course of action I can suggest is to ignore them.

Right on. Ignore, or mock openly. We don't ban. I honestly can't remember a single person here (and I've been here since '05, so I'm not quite a noob, but others have been here far longer...) who ever got banned. Tagged as "offensive" a few times - and I'm not even sure what that means or entails, because I can get down in the muck with the worst of 'em, and I've never even been warned, so Haken (our dear and fluffy internet lord around here) is truly a very open-minded soul.

Mike

KWICKO

Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:17 PM

Quote:

I'm telling you, though, beware! You never know when someone unexpected is gonna jump out of nowhere and rip you a new one. It's happened to me, and wasn't pleasant. I don't have a tough enough hide for it. I generally only jump into the RWED fray if there's hard science or cute kitty pictures involved.

Been wondering where you were, Mal. We're worse off for your not being there to offer your input.

Mike

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:30 PM

Thank you for telling me who you are. I would sincerely appreciate it if you told nobody over there that I am here. I just want them to leave me alone and I will do the same.

Good to see you. It's lovely to see a familiar face, long as it's a friendly or neutral one! Stay shiny, Niki

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:34 PM

Ahhh...looks like the controls I'm looking for are in Profile. I'll check that out. Great, thanx!

Hmmm...went to my profile and to "edit profile"--cannot find a button for "notify me". That's what I was looking for.

As to the other, I want to be able to post, then get back to the same thread I posted in. Right now all I know to do is click on "community" and go from back there. Does that make sense?

Oh, shoot! I tried to edit my post to put a tag line in and erase my "home page"--I don't want that out there, given the problems I ran into before. Why isn't it updating?

KATESFRIEND

Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:57 PM

I've lurked at the OB on occasion, but never wanted to participate. The replies to newbies I read were often cruel. It always struck me as odd that some of the feelings of family and togetherness engendered by Joss's work could attract such an opposition in other people. I hope that this helps others understand that what they may be attracted to in the Whedonverse is something they are missing in their lives, that consideration, courtesy and respect has to be practiced to be meaningful. We're all here to learn something, and help each other through. Just not through the "dark side".

ECGORDON

Sunday, August 16, 2009 4:12 PM

Niki, I'm not sure what problem you're having in returning to a particular thread. When I post a reply it automatically jumps to my post at the end of that thread, then I just click the "home" link to get back to the mainpage. From there you can see the latest fifteen threads from the various forums. To get back to any forum use the links on the right side of the page underneath the "News Headlines" box.

As for getting notice about replies, look for the "Your Options" underneath the message field when you are composing a post. The options are "Include signature with my post," "Notify me when someone responds to my comment" and "Override notification."

I assume you have an email address on file from when you registered here, so notices will be sent there.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

BOOKREADER

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:02 PM

That's not quite what happened over there and you know it. Please don't start spreading falsehoods here as you did there.

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:06 PM

Yes, Gordon, I've done that. No e-mails, and I only have one e-mail address. I've also had no luck trying to edit my profile and my signature doesn't show up in my posts. Must be doing something wrong!

Will try the other suggestions, thank you.

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:10 PM

That's exactly my opinion. It takes little effort to at least be civil, and that's all I ask of anyone. Even snarking is okay, as long as it doesn't become a vendetta or too ugly. And the fact that we're all supposedly Browncoats who came together to be with other Browncoats, especially given Nathan's opinion on the matter, mystified me.

Bookreader, would you do me the courtesy of telling me who you are on the OB, so that I know who I'm dealing with. I'm not spreading falsehoods; I suppose I should caveat what I say with "that was how I saw it", because it is.

If you saw things differently than I did, I'll accept that we disagree, and hope we can leave it at that. I want no more than to go from here. I respect your views are different from mine.

PEACEKEEPER

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:13 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Ahhh...looks like the controls I'm looking for are in Profile. I'll check that out. Great, thanx!

Hmmm...went to my profile and to "edit profile"--cannot find a button for "notify me". That's what I was looking for.

As to the other, I want to be able to post, then get back to the same thread I posted in. Right now all I know to do is click on "community" and go from back there. Does that make sense?

Oh, shoot! I tried to edit my post to put a tag line in and erase my "home page"--I don't want that out there, given the problems I ran into before. Why isn't it updating?

Niki,when you type any post responses,if you let your eyes wander down below the signature box you will see the notify me option.Tick it and post response.

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

OPPYH

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:14 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
I'm a refugee from the "OB" (the original Firefly forum board put up and still maintained by Fox). Looking for another home. That place is terribly toxic and even tho' there are some nice people there, some others are really vicious so finally I left.

I feel heartened by the above "I love freedom of speech just as much as you, but I hope that you will post messages that are at least somewhat civil and in good taste." quote...and am hoping that means this is a safe place? I'd love to meet others who appreciated Firefly as much as I did, have no problem with a good civil debate and can tease along with the best of them, but the things that happened there have made me very gun-shy of joining anywhere else.

Is this a safe place? If so, may I join you all?

Great to have you here.
This is an amazing site. You're amongst friends.

MAL4PREZ

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Been wondering where you were, Mal. We're worse off for your not being there to offer your input.

Mike

Ahh, thanks. That's kind of you.

I find that posting in RWED doesn't do much for my peace of mind, nor does it bring out the better aspects of my personality. So unless a gross misuse of science pushes me over the edge (cough*cough*evolutiondebate*cough*) I'm generally happier keeping my distance.

Niki - if you want to join a new site incognito, starting a thread is not the way! And it appears that you've been found already...

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hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:28 PM

Yes; as I said, I DID that. I leave it that way with every post. No e-mails (if that's the way for notification?). Obviously something is wrong, as I've tried to edit my profile and add a tag line and that hasn't worked either. I'll work it out eventually. Thanx for the help.

ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:29 PM

see below

ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BookReader:
That's not quite what happened over there and you know it. Please don't start spreading falsehoods here as you did there.

There , second try does it .

Ahem

You know that everyone over there are terrible , nasty evil little people .

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:32 PM

Mal, I've already found that out. Two people have informed them I'm here, along with a link. I realize now I should have used an alias and not spoken about the problems I had there.

I pray this doesn't bring a stream of ugliness from there to here. I hope this thread goes on down the line and there are no further problems.

Thank you Oppyh, I hope I don't bring anything here that should have been left there, my apologies if it does and I'll do my best to see it doesn't.

BOOKREADER

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:

Bookreader, would you do me the courtesy of telling me who you are on the OB, so that I know who I'm dealing with. I'm not spreading falsehoods; I suppose I should caveat what I say with "that was how I saw it", because it is.

One man's "that's how I saw it" is another man's "falsehood".

I can see why you'd no like to speak of it further, as you will be admonished for your deliberate misrepresentation of what occurred over there.

Both boards have a long history of mutual respect for each other; please do not further attempt to damage that relationship.

KWICKO

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:42 PM

Quote:

I pray this doesn't bring a stream of ugliness from there to here. I'm not going to respond further in this thread in the hopes it goes on down the line and there is no further problem.

You've got backup. You're among friends.

If others want to bring the ugly, well, we can do ugly. As you'll no doubt notice at some point, I have a habit of responding in kind. If someone is civil to me, I try my utmost to stay civil with them. If they choose to walk a different path... well, what can I say. Sometimes violent outbursts really are cathartic. As John Lydon (aka Johnny Rotten) once said, "Anger is an energy."

People who come here with no purpose in mind but to be disruptive and ugly generally don't stick around too long. They tend to find themselves buried under swarm attacks at every turn, and there's no need to ban them, so it's never really even brought up as any kind of serious option; instead, they typically end up running out of here with their tail between their legs.

Mike

ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BookReader:
Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:

Bookreader, would you do me the courtesy of telling me who you are on the OB, so that I know who I'm dealing with. I'm not spreading falsehoods; I suppose I should caveat what I say with "that was how I saw it", because it is.

One man's "that's how I saw it" is another man's "falsehood".

I can see why you'd no like to speak of it further, as you will be admonished for your deliberate misrepresentation of what occurred over there.

Both boards have a long history of mutual respect for each other; please do not further attempt to damage that relationship.

Well put .
Too bad near all Nikki's self-incriminating posts have been deleted .

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:46 PM

I have no desire to damage any relationship; if people from there come here just to harrass me, THAT is a negative act. I am not going to speak of the issue further and have edited my posts to remove any reference to it. I can't do more than that.

I'd sincerely appreciate it if you and Digby wouldn't follow me here. There is no reason to; I've left and do not want to bother you there.

Please don't bring issues from there here; as I said, I will not refer to it further, I promise that. Please leave me alone, and leave this place free of your personal feelings about me. It would be much appreciated by all I'm sure.

KWICKO

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:50 PM

Quote:

Please don't bring issues from there here; as I said, I will not refer to it further, I promise that. Please leave me alone, and leave this place free of your personal feelings about me. It would be much appreciated by all I'm sure.

Seconded.

We're all just folk now, ain't we?

Mike

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:50 PM

Thank you Mike, but please, I don't want to be the cause of any battles or any ugly. I have edited my posts to remove any reference to what happened and will not speak of it again. Since deletion seems impossible, that's all I can do.

I sincerely hope any vendetta isn't followed here, it's totally wrong. If you could please just ignore any taunts or attacks on me, that would be great. Responding only makes thing worse.

Thanx for letting me know I'm among friends, all I want is peace and to be left alone to get to know this board and these people.

ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
I have no desire to damage any relationship; if people from there come here just to harrass me, THAT is a negative act. I am not going to speak of the issue further and have edited my posts to remove any reference to it. I can't do more than that.

I'd sincerely appreciate it if you and Digby wouldn't follow me here. There is no reason to; I've left and do not want to bother you there.

Please don't bring issues from there here; as I said, I will not refer to it further, I promise that. Please leave me alone, and leave this place free of your personal feelings about me. It would be much appreciated by all I'm sure.

And yet your very first thread is dedicated to smearing the OB . You still don't get that people do not want to be told how to think or speak or debate .

You didn't like the style of the polis we have over there .
They are rougher here .

That's actually a good thing .

Now as to why I'm posting in this thread ...

Believe me , I harbour no desire to tramp throughout the intenets calling you out .

Don't want to be held accountable to false statements ?
Stop posting them .

It's as simple as that .

Always thought this was a shiny place here .
Lurked lots of times .
Keep flying .

BOOKREADER

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:56 PM

Starting a thread with deliberate falsehoods and telling everyone here what awful people there are over at the OB is a negative act. Trying to set the record straight is not.

"Please don't bring issues from there here; as I said, I will not refer to it further, I promise that."

You opened your thread introducing yourself bring issues from there to here. I'm sure it would be much appreciated by all if you can stop spreading falsehoods about the OB. As I said, both boards have a long history of mutual respect and your attempt to paint one board as the 'bad guys' in your little quarrel will be seen for the divisive action it is.

I've been a member here for four or five years. Although I do not post hardly at all, I lurk on both boards quite a bit. Please drop this pathetic 'woe is me, I'm so picked on, they are terrible people over there' bit. Neither board has had a peeing contest so please don't try to start one now.

SAXON

Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
Thank you Mike, but please, I don't want to be the cause of any battles or any ugly. I have edited my posts to remove any reference to what happened and will not speak of it again. Since deletion seems impossible, that's all I can do.

I sincerely hope any vendetta isn't followed here, it's totally wrong. If you could please just ignore any taunts or attacks on me, that would be great. Responding only makes thing worse.

Thanx for letting me know I'm among friends, all I want is peace and to be left alone to get to know this board and these people.

What you have done here is the real world equivalent of walking into a job interview and immediately bad mouthing your old boss and co-workers, only to find out that your interviewer is a relative of their's...*DOH*!

Yes, you edit away...not like over there where you can delete or have deleted the proof of your insanity.

Head's up people of fff, this one is plum crazy loco. No joke.

*heads out, totally disgusted*

PS. My only slight (yet sick) joy? You have NO IDEA who you were dealing with over there. lol. Can't help but giggle when I think of it.

ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:03 PM

Hey Saxon !

BOOKREADER

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:08 PM

Hiya Saxon!

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:19 PM

Can you stop please? I am asking people to stop. I have done everything I can to remedy the situation and do not want this to continue. I am not going to respond to this thread further; hopefully if nobody else does it will sink down the line and peace can return.

I have done what I can to rectify speaking freely when I first came here; I repeat: it will not be referred to again. Continuing this is not helping anyone, and if you enjoy me not knowing who you are from there, I don't care.

WHY you people want to continue to harrass me here, and why you went to a mental-health website I am on to copy my text from there is beyond me. If you hate me so much, why not just let me leave the OB and let it go at that? I understand you were angry that I spoke freely here of how I felt about what happened there, but it's done, I can't undo it but I did what I could. Can't that be the end of it?

BOOKREADER

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
I understand you were angry that I spoke freely here of how I felt about what happened there, but it's done, I can't undo it but I did what I could. Can't that be the end of it?

No, we were angry about the deliberate falsehoods you told about the OB and your attempt to stir things up between two boards that have a long history of peaceful co-existence.

If anyone from this board every came over there and started telling the OB how terrible FFN is, I'd call them on it as well, or at least look into it. The people here are some of the shiniest you'd ever want to meet. As someone over there said, I've partied with some people here and there alike and I for one do not appreciate the badmouthing you started right off the bat.

ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:28 PM

...WHY you people want to continue to harrass me here, and why you went to a mental-health website I am on to copy my text from there is beyond me. If you hate me so much, why not just let me leave the OB and let it go at that?

Because you posted untruths on that board as well .
You seem to lack an appreciation on this whole "public" posting thing .

Anyways , good luck from here on out .

I mean that .

BYTEMITE

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:33 PM

Whoa now. I recall she only said that there were four or five people over there who she was having trouble with, not that the whole board is bad. She even expressed regrets about having to leave. And then she said she HAD to because people were harassing her in OTHER places, like when she said they actually went to a website she ran for her job and tried to sabotage her.

She never said anything bad about the OB, besides it being not very active, and hey, there are boards here that aren't very active. I don't see that as particularly negative or unreasonable.

You come in this thread after four years, say you've been lurking at both boards, but then call her crazy and insane and tell us to watch ourselves. Why would you do this unless you've had a personal conflict with her?

Let us make up our own minds, please.

COZEN

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:34 PM

*Sends niki2 a virtual back massage applied during an HD vid of a virtual and graphic Mal/Inara sex scene whereby the culmination involves kewl cuts to Serenity going full burn*

Welcome n00b. Post well, post often.

BYTEMITE

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:35 PM

Also, AdmiralDigby only just registered TODAY, presumably to post in this thread.

Frankly, I think you all are giving her story more weight, because it seems like the only drama here was when you guys showed up.

She wants a new start? Let her have it. If you guys are the slighted individuals from the OB, and I don't know what she did that made those five people over there so angry, but if you ARE, at the very least she will be HERE and not THERE.

Everyone wins, all right?

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:40 PM

Bytemite, thank you.

JUST to clarify: I said the General Firefly forum on the OB was quiet, not the whole board. I don't want to give anyone the wrong idea. The Off Topics Forum is quite lively and there are wonderful people over there. I didn't want anyone to think the board is inactive, as so many other Firefly sites are these days.

ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:50 PM

]Also, AdmiralDigby only just registered TODAY, presumably to post in this thread....[/i

Guilty as charged .
Although I'm supposedly not one of the five .

( kinda Cylonish , non ? )

I have lurked here since Firefly aired , I just never bothered registering .

This place and the OB are a treasure trove of all things Firefly .

Cheers

ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:52 PM

Didn't mean to italicise the entire post .

My bad

BYTEMITE

Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:54 PM

Okay, didn't mean to accuse. Seems like this is just one big misunderstanding, at least the fireflyfans.net part of this whole thing.

A welcome to you as well. I hope you'll continue to post, and permanently retire your lurker title.

ADMIRALDIGBY

Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Okay, didn't mean to accuse. Seems like this is just one big misunderstanding, at least the fireflyfans.net part of this whole thing.

A welcome to you as well. I hope you'll continue to post, and permanently retire your lurker title.

Now that the ice has been broken I suspect I shall endeavour to post more here .

Thanks .

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:13 PM

No, Digby wasn't one of the five. He's smart and we've had our disagreements, and sometimes I don't like the vociferousness with which he posts, but I'm sure that fits in here; any discussion of politics or religion gets heated. We've had our differences, but also similiarities, and I hope he does post more here, I respect him.

It's good to see you Digby, I'm hoping we can let bygones be bygones and start fresh here. I'm certainly willing. And maybe your being here can reassure those at the OB that I'm not referring to them in any way that upsets them, tho' I'm CERTAINLY not looking to you to do so if that's uncomfortable. All I ask is relative civility and will return same.

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:15 PM

Thanx for the welcome, Cozen! I wish that backrub was other than virtual, I LOVE rubbing and being rubbed. But I take the kindness, and would love to see that vid...yum!

ECGORDON

Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:24 PM

While we would all expect Browncoats to try and get along, we know that's not going to happen in all cases. I have no idea what Niki2 was specifically referencing on the OB, and I don't care. Any disagreements there should stay there. I can understand where she's coming from because I experienced a lot of bad will on the OB myself from time to time, it's why I haven't visited in a long time, and it's the main reason I usually steer clear of RWED here.

I'm not going to cast any aspersions against any of those who have followed Niki here to complain, but there is one of them who I know was generally belligerent over there. I won't identify any more specifically than that.

Maybe it was wrong for Niki to say what she did in her first post, but she's apologized and it should be dropped forever. Can't we all just get along?

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

KWICKO

Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:26 PM

So we're all one big shiny happy, right?

I can tell SniperKitty to stand down?

Mike

SAXON

Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:28 PM

Hey you!

SAXON

Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:28 PM

Heya backatcha!

SAXON

Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
Can you stop please? I am asking people to stop. I have done everything I can to remedy the situation and do not want this to continue. I am not going to respond to this thread further; hopefully if nobody else does it will sink down the line and peace can return.

I have done what I can to rectify speaking freely when I first came here; I repeat: it will not be referred to again. Continuing this is not helping anyone, and if you enjoy me not knowing who you are from there, I don't care.

WHY you people want to continue to harrass me here, and why you went to a mental-health website I am on to copy my text from there is beyond me. If you hate me so much, why not just let me leave the OB and let it go at that? I understand you were angry that I spoke freely here of how I felt about what happened there, but it's done, I can't undo it but I did what I could. Can't that be the end of it?

First of all, don't act as if you are an innocent victim when you brought this all on yourself.
Second, don't do the 'borg' thing where 'everyone' is acting as one...alot of people cut you wayyyyyyy too much slack over there, and that's why you thought you could get away with murder. It wasn't till you 'dared' 'everyone' to 'google me, see if I care'...and when that happened, suddenly you act as if you were set upon by private eyes who dug deep into your background, when in fact you listed that 'mental health' board in your profile. The ONLY things that were 'copied' from there were 'bad mouth' attacks from folks who weren't ON that board who couldn't speak for themselves. YOU are a trouble maker. YOU start crap and then sit back and delete your kindling but continue to fan flames and blow on embers.

As has already been stated, it won't take long for the folks here to see you for what you are.

Just a word of advice to those who post here regularly...be careful what you say, it WILL be repeated elsewhere, embellished beyond belief. You are dealing with a pathological liar who doesn't see the world the way it is, but the overly dramatic way that entertains her fantasies.

SAXON

Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Whoa now. I recall she only said that there were four or five people over there who she was having trouble with, not that the whole board is bad. She even expressed regrets about having to leave. And then she said she HAD to because people were harassing her in OTHER places, like when she said they actually went to a website she ran for her job and tried to sabotage her.

She never said anything bad about the OB, besides it being not very active, and hey, there are boards here that aren't very active. I don't see that as particularly negative or unreasonable.

You come in this thread after four years, say you've been lurking at both boards, but then call her crazy and insane and tell us to watch ourselves. Why would you do this unless you've had a personal conflict with her?

Let us make up our own minds, please.

No one 'went to' her 'work'. She posted the site in her profile. After a day of hissy fitting, she dared some to 'google her'. After someone DID visit said site (it's not OPEN to the public, she runs/is the mod of said mental health board), it was found that she was telling out and out lies about the goings on at the OB. She's managed to get people banned (who are now reinstated after the truth of he matter(s) came out. BUT she continues to get whole threads deleted after she starts trouble then goes crying to the mods when people call her on her crap. She's very good about editing/deleting the stuff that starts the trouble.

Now, be clear about this. The 'going to' the 'mental health' site, was READ ONLY. When too many people allowed her crazy to continue, a member did post the stuff she was saying over on HER site on the OB to prove that she was indeed lying about the happenings on the OB.

She lives in a fantasy world, twists truth, and starts problems. She will swear she wants the stuff to end, but then will START threads about the way she was treated and bad mouth those she sees as 'being mean' to her.

This is just a heads up to you all here. If you 'back her' and believe her crap, you should be okay...but as soon as you call her on stuff, even if it's in a very nice, civil, 'friend to a friend' way, she'll lump you in with the 'mean' people. I think the majority over there saw her for what she was, most just avoided the problems, alot got suckered in because they were trying to be nice to the new person, other's challenged her warped way of thinking and were immediately labled as 'hating her'.

Beware! You have been warned.

SAXON

Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Also, AdmiralDigby only just registered TODAY, presumably to post in this thread.

Frankly, I think you all are giving her story more weight, because it seems like the only drama here was when you guys showed up.

She wants a new start? Let her have it. If you guys are the slighted individuals from the OB, and I don't know what she did that made those five people over there so angry, but if you ARE, at the very least she will be HERE and not THERE.

Everyone wins, all right?

If only that were the case. She's STILL posting over there, STILL getting whole threads deleted. I can see you all being so nice, Browncoats and all...goes with the brand. BUT, please, know, the majority of those she's labeling 'the 5', were long time 'coats who just disagreed with her. Seriously. It would be nice if links could be posted to PROVE against her, but she's deleted or had them deleted. She's a manipulator, and yep, she's very adept at getting those to be sympathetic to her.

Just wait....it took some folks awhile to see through her, but it will happen.

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:51 PM

I'm sorry...I thought you could tell superkitty to stand down. Is there ANY way to stop this? I tried not posting, but it's still going on. What "Saxon" is saying is how he viewed things, I understand that but I wish this could stop.

"Saxon", I deleted all my references to the problms at the OB...for you to continue to bad-mouth me here shows nothing good and no good intentions. I repeat, please stop. And has been requested of you and others, please let these people decide for themselves about me. You've given all kinds of warnings, don't you think you've done enough now?

Please go back to the OB where you can talk about me and call me all the names you wish without bringing unpleasantness to yet another board which has done nothing to harm you.. I'm not going to get into this with you, I'm going to ignore what I see as incorrect statements, I just want you to go away.

If you're who I think you are, this has become truly a personal vendetta, and it's not harming me, it's harming only others. There are messages all over like "I love freedom of speech just as much as you, but I hope that you will post messages that are at least somewhat civil and in good taste", can't you try?

PEACEKEEPER

Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:01 PM

I will respond to her posts as I see fit.If I disagree I will say so.If she posts sensibly I will respond in kind.But what I won't do is sign on to a site,purely to get one-upmanship on a person I disagree with.This is a fans' discussion board.It is not gang warfare.If someone on here pisses you off,you have the option to ignore them.This whole thread has been hijacked by people who must have the last word.Frankly,I think you should have more important things to worry about.Leave the woman alone and take a chill pill.It's all got a bit sad!!!

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

PEACEKEEPER

Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:18 PM

Niki2. May I make a suggestion and have a go at our Caption Tightpants thread.That will give you a little respite from all this animosity.I personally will take you as I find you,and up to now I see no problem whatsoever.And that is MY final word on the matter.

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

ECGORDON

Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:25 PM

I'm pretty sure Saxon is a she, but in either case, I wish she/he would just stop and go back to where they came from.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

NIKI2

Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:32 PM

Yes...I have been exploring other threads and gone away from the computer, hoping this would die down.

I have an idea, dunno why I didn't think of it before. If you guys are willing to judge me as you find me, that's all I ask. I don't want champions to continue this idiocy, so how about everyone just stop responding to them?

Eventually surely they will get tired and leave; if not, there's no harm done, their and my words in this thread speak for themselves and anything they can say only reflects on them, not me. If nobody responds to them, they can bad-mouth me among themselves until they tire of it.

Does that make sense? I'm going to try (again) not to reply further here. I suggest anyone who isn't into this kind of thing do the same. Read all you want, they can't hurt me. Thank you.

Oh, there's a new person who "just" became a member at the OB who came straight to the thread about me and started in. I assume it's one of the members under a different screen name...they may show up here. In fact anyone who "joins" today and comes here pretty much marks themselves.

Just take me as you find me; I thank you for that and we'll get along fine. Stay shiny, Niki

PEACEKEEPER

Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:39 PM

Fair enough.I now consider this thread reserved for peope who talk at the theatre.lol

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

MAL4PREZ

Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
I'm sorry...I thought you could tell superkitty to stand down. Is there ANY way to stop this? I tried not posting, but it's still going on.

The way I see it, ignoring someone doesn't mean as soon as they post you throw your hands and immediately respond. I understand why you feel the need to defend yourself, but rest assured Niki - as much as some folks here can be opinionated jerks from time to time (I'm soooo including myself!) there's not a single person here who will judge you based on what these folks are saying.

So, if I may be so bold as to offer advice, do not pay your stalkers the compliment of posting to this thread again. Don't even reply to me. Continue as you are in other threads, discussing other things so we can get to know you. Harpies hate yelling into a void, so I'm sure they'll follow you, but keep ignoring them. If you show yourself undeserving of what they're saying, and stay above their bickering, you will get nothing but support from everyone here.

And to the harpies: this site has seen its share of nutjobs and the intellectually dishonest. If Niki is one of those, we're quite capable of figuring it out and dealing with her our own way. And I highly doubt that "our own way" includes harassing her across the world wide web.

Sheesh, I take back every bad thing I ever said about our RWED. (Well, mostly.

) I never saw anyone here carry things THIS far.

I'm done.

ETA to Niki: yay, you thought of the same idea at the same time I did!

Commencing with Plan Ignore...

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hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left

BYTEMITE

Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:53 PM

This is all very he-said, she-said. In the end, ultimately, whatever happened is not relevant here unless anyone wants to MAKE it relevant here. Which I sincerely hope not, because this board is a relatively calm place most times.

We appreciate your warnings, Saxon, and Niki, we appreciate your fears. I have been on the outside and in the center of a number of similar internet fights, and I have seen how nobody can really be at fault. A friend of mine who was very outspoken on political opinions and inclined to very strongly argue their positions was often seen as getting personal when he really wasn't, but the perception made someone go off to some of his wikipedia entries and vandalize them. Everything went downhill from there, moderators took sides, banned them from a message board I went to, deleted threads, it was hard feelings all around.

I see a similar situation here where there's just a lot of frustration, a lot of different ways of seeing what happened, and a general escalation of events that nobody could control.

So like I said, I'm going to make up my own mind. *shrug*

Edit: And I too will bow out now. :) All these other posts were put up while I was working on this in response to Saxon's last.

KWICKO

Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:20 PM

Quote:
Posted by Niki2:

"Saxon", I deleted all my references to the problms at the OB...for you to continue to bad-mouth me here shows nothing good and no good intentions. I repeat, please stop. And has been requested of you and others, please let these people decide for themselves about me. You've given all kinds of warnings, don't you think you've done enough now?

Quite. You've said your "bewares" and your "warnings" already, Saxon. Anything more constitutes little more than stalking and harassment. We're adults; we can make up our own minds.

Quote:
Posted by PeaceKeeper:
I will respond to her posts as I see fit.If I disagree I will say so.If she posts sensibly I will respond in kind.But what I won't do is sign on to a site,purely to get one-upmanship on a person I disagree with.

Bingo. Niki has done nothing here to give me pause. If that happens, I'll deal with it in my own way, on my own terms. As of now, Niki has offered repeated apologies and asked repeatedly to be left alone. At this point, you're not making YOUR case - you're making Niki's. Was that your intent?

Quote:
Posted by PeaceKeeper:
Niki2. May I make a suggestion and have a go at our Caption Tightpants thread.That will give you a little respite from all this animosity.I personally will take you as I find you,and up to now I see no problem whatsoever.

PeaceKeeper, you have it pretty well nailed. You can speak for me anytime, at least when it comes to this issue (if you can call it an issue...).

Quote:
Posted by Niki2:
Yes...I have been exploring other threads and gone away from the computer, hoping this would die down.

I have an idea, dunno why I didn't think of it before. If you guys are willing to judge me as you find me, that's all I ask. I don't want champions to continue this idiocy, so how about everyone just stop responding to them?

As you wish. It will die down, and we'll all move forward from there.

Quote:
Mal4Prez posted:

So, if I may be so bold as to offer advice, do not pay your stalkers the compliment of posting to this thread again. Don't even reply to me. Continue as you are in other threads, discussing other things so we can get to know you.

Good advice. I plan on making this my very last post on this thread. Let's hope others do as well.

Niki, and all the newcomers: Welcome aboard our boat. Let's see if we can all keep a civil tongue in our heads and move in a vaguely forward-y direction. ;)

Mike

FIREFLYPASSENGER

Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:12 PM

I agree, let it go.

Niki, I'm glad you found this place.
Please stop talking about the OB and start fresh here.

Rosie

SAXON

Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:40 PM

To all who addressed replies to me.

Please know those were friendly 'warnings'. I haven't been here in years, and I'm sure none of you (unless you were around at the VERY beginning) know me from Adam. I stopped posting at the OB over stuff alot like what this gal brought with her...just wanted to send out a wave to those who will want to steer clear. As it stand now, anyone who comes in will only see the edited version, so yeah, it looks very lopsided (this is her MO).

I will go back into lurk mode. I get my Firefly fixes from introducing people to the show (not many left out there who haven't seen it), and get the same kick as always when I can point myself out in the 'Beaumond' scene in the movie. heh.

Luckily I have real friends from all the years of Shindigs and Cons and such, so I don't need these boards to fill any 'fix'. I have Browncoats in my own family (one daughter shared the big screen with me, and all buy one kid got to walk that red carpet along side Adam).

I do miss the days when I could run to a board and share stories of the 'old days' (got a kick out having my photo taken by some very young kids at Comic Con when they heard my tale).

But, reliving the glory days is also a tad depressing.

I think, even if I'm not involved with the OB (since it too is past it's glory days), I still feel very protective of it. I never was a regular poster here, but I also feel nearly maternal about any of the 'old boards' who helped keep the 'verse alive all these years. I hate to see one destructive person cause the kind of strife this one did. Just trying to do my civic duty to set up a net to hopefully protect others from what my friends have gone through over on the OB.

I can understand your desire to be wary. Fair enough.

I will take no joy in thinking (won't come back to say it), "I told you so".

*was going to post a pic from the movie, but too much trouble.*

ADMIRALDIGBY

Monday, August 17, 2009 12:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FireflyPassenger:
I agree, let it go.

Niki, I'm glad you found this place.
Please stop talking about the OB and start fresh here.

Rosie

Hi Rosie!

ADMIRALDIGBY

Monday, August 17, 2009 12:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FireflyPassenger:
I agree, let it go.

Niki, I'm glad you found this place.
Please stop talking about the OB and start fresh here.

Rosie

Hi Rosie!

OPPYH

Monday, August 17, 2009 2:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Saxon:
I haven't been here in years, and I'm sure none of you (unless you were around at the VERY beginning) know me from Adam. I stopped posting at the OB over stuff alot like what this gal brought with her...just wanted to send out a wave to those who will want to steer clear. As it stand now, anyone who comes in will only see the edited version, so yeah, it looks very lopsided (this is her MO).

Don't remember your posts, but I do remember your name. No reason to go into lurk mode, stay a while share your thoughts with fellow Browncoats. After all if we didn't, this this site would have gone dark years ago.

SPACEGIRL32

Monday, August 17, 2009 3:16 AM

Niki-
Are you on FB or twitter? I chat with a lot of my Browncoat friends over there and it is 'safer'

As for the OB, I still stop by and say "Hello" because it was my first home. Just stay away from the political stuff and you will be okay.

SPACEGIRL32

Monday, August 17, 2009 3:18 AM

***tackle hugs Saxon****

I miss the old days at the OB with Adam and you. You & I had some fun conversations over there!

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